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Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

I'm looking for a type of dough used for strudels in Germany and elsewhere or for Baklava in Greece: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllo

In the US we call it phyllo or filo dough and it's available in the frozen food section of grocery stores. I'm in Geneva and can't figure out if it's available here somewhere and if so what would it be called and in what store? I have a Coop near me (at the Signy centre) but I don't see anything similar there. If anybody could help me it would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

Pâte feuilletée. Most stores carry it.
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

Hi,

If you lived in Zurich I could tell you where to find it. Since I don t know Geneva well at all I can only give you one tip as to how you could find the elusive Filo dough. Try to find a Turkish or Greek store (that sells food) in the city. They ll know what you mean when you ask for it.

I hope that gives you a direction. Good luck,
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

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Pâte feuilletée. Most stores carry it.
Wonderful!!! I was just looking for Phyllo/Filo dough too, but not knowing any alternative names it's kinda hard to find something! Now I can look for Pâte feuilletée Thanks heaps!
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

I would suggest "Blätterteig" as the German equivalent. Not quite the same but pretty close. Most larger food stores should carry it.

Edit: The Wikipedia article even mentions that it's the same stuff. I am not sure my 100% Austrian wife would agree, but Wikipedia is always right. And it will make a darn fine Strudel.

LeShop link to Blätterteig http://www.le-shop.ch/leshop/Main.do...echteckig_640g

Coop @ home also lists different versions, but I can't link directly to their &%*@# Web site. http://www.coopathome.ch/b2c_coop/b2...S_original.jsp
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Wonderful!!! I was just looking for Phyllo/Filo dough too, but not knowing any alternative names it's kinda hard to find something! Now I can look for Pâte feuilletée Thanks heaps!

Unfortunately, that is not phyllo dough. Phyllo can be found at any Turkish or Greek shop. Pâte feuilletée is Blätterteig which is puff pastry and not phyllo. Be sure to use butter or oil on the phyllo so it does not fall apart (it is very brittle). Usually you buy it frozen and once you thaw it it will dry out very quickly. Blätterteig can be found at any Migros and migt work, but is very different.
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

Can I suggest trying a different pastry. I know a lot of people are used to using philo for strudel. I used to be a pastry chef and i did this too.

I was in Austria last summer and they don't use phylo. The use a blätterteig. The difference being that blätterteig has quark in it, giving the pastry an entirely different texture and cleaner flavour.

I can't recommend this enough. I think it should be easy enough to make as well, and a lot more fun.
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Can I suggest trying a different pastry. I know a lot of people are used to using philo for strudel. I used to be a pastry chef and i did this too.

I was in Austria last summer and they don't use phylo. The use a blätterteig. The difference being that blätterteig has quark in it, giving the pastry an entirely different texture and cleaner flavour.

I can't recommend this enough. I think it should be easy enough to make as well, and a lot more fun.
Blätterteig also has a good amount of butter in it, so you do not need to add to it, whereas with phyllo some fatty lubricant is needed to keep it from breaking.
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

Pâte feuilletée I saw is puff pastry... So not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm wanting to make Baklava (or at least try to) so it will have to be Phyllo. I did see in Coop though that they have Strudelteig... now, the big question is, is that the same as Phyllo? If not, anyone know of Greek/Turkish stores in Bern city?
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Pâte feuilletée I saw is puff pastry... So not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm wanting to make Baklava (or at least try to) so it will have to be Phyllo. I did see in Coop though that they have Strudelteig... now, the big question is, is that the same as Phyllo? If not, anyone know of Greek/Turkish stores in Bern city?

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Pâte feuilletée I saw is puff pastry... So not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm wanting to make Baklava (or at least try to) so it will have to be Phyllo. I did see in Coop though that they have Strudelteig... now, the big question is, is that the same as Phyllo? If not, anyone know of Greek/Turkish stores in Bern city?

No strudelteig is not phyllo.
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

Doesn't help someone in Geneva but all Austrian supermarkets sell it. Simply called Streudelteig. Usually sold fresh and can be frozen and kept forever. I find it to be pretty much the same as Greek or Turkish filo pastry and have used both for Austrian and Greek purposes in the past without noticing any difference

It is certainly NOT Blätterteig and I've never had a decent quality streudel in an Austrian restaurant made from Blätterteig. Wikipedia is wrong if that's what someone has written.....must go and correct it if I can be bothered.....
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I'm looking for a type of dough used for strudels in Germany and elsewhere or for Baklava in Greece: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllo

In the US we call it phyllo or filo dough and it's available in the frozen food section of grocery stores. I'm in Geneva and can't figure out if it's available here somewhere and if so what would it be called and in what store? I have a Coop near me (at the Signy centre) but I don't see anything similar there. If anybody could help me it would be greatly appreciated!
As you want to make a baklava, I can tell u it turns out well with pate feuilletée ( blättereig),just make sure when u bake it you do that in a high rimmed pan/tray so you can add the syrup afterwards to soak up and it will turn out all right!

I tried to do a tel.search for a turk/greek etc shop in geneva,but didn't find anything............
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Pâte feuilletée I saw is puff pastry... So not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm wanting to make Baklava (or at least try to) so it will have to be Phyllo. I did see in Coop though that they have Strudelteig... now, the big question is, is that the same as Phyllo? If not, anyone know of Greek/Turkish stores in Bern city?
Hi Bell, yes, Strudel teig is the pastry you need for your Baklava, Migros has it as well, in the fresh pastry department, which is good, as I find that after freezing (= drying) it is even more likely to break when you want to use it.

I always find if I am trying a recipe for the first time, it's good to stick as close to the original as possible, after that, then I like to play around with them.That way you get to compare and see what pleases you the most.

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No strudelteig is not phyllo.
If you buy a packet in either the Migros or Coop, you will find it is indeed phyllo pastry. It's the same as you described above, paper thin, needs to be brushed with melted butter (or olive oil for that matter) etc.

It's the same as what I used to use in N.Z for Apple Strudel and "Spanakopita me tiri" or Spinach and Feta cheese pie.

Check it out.

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I always find if I am trying a recipe for the first time, it's good to stick as close to the original as possible, after that, then I like to play around with them.That way you get to compare and see what pleases you the most.

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That's exactly why I'm trying to find Phyllo instead of settling for puff pastry/Blätterteig. Thanks for the confirmation. Everyone's been wonderfully helpful! I'll have good look around for greek/turkish grocers before i buy strutelteig... just in case
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If you buy a packet in either the Migros or Coop, you will find it is indeed phyllo pastry. It's the same as you described above, paper thin, needs to be brushed with melted butter (or olive oil for that matter) etc.

It's the same as what I used to use in N.Z for Apple Strudel and "Spanakopita me tiri" or Spinach and Feta cheese pie.

Check it out.

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I'll have to try that. I have always bought phyllo at the Turkish or Greek store to make my Spanakotyropita. Strudelteig is thin too but is usually quite different - I would try both and see which ones better
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

If you have no turkish or Greek grocery stores nearby... Globus Supermarkets (at least in Bern anyway) have Phyllo dough in their freezer 450g for chf9++ ( I couldn't remember).
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Re: Phyllo (filo) dough for strudel, where?

exactly what I was looking for. Thanks guys!
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I'm reviving this thread because I'm looking for phyllo dough to make spanakopita. Can you point me towards a Greek or Turkish store in Zürich?

Migros seems to only sell "Kale Dürüm" at the moment...

Thanks!

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I bought some at the fresh fish mercado (they're in Dietlikon and other places around Zurich. Same stuff as they sell in Globus- freezer section , long yellow box. Chf 6.50 at mercado vs 9.50 at globus
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