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Re: Should vodka freeze?

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Vodka is a mixture of water with ethanol. In the freezer, the water will freeze and the ethanol will remain liquid. So normally you should have ice crystals floating in ethanol. Because ice is pure water, you need to melt it completely before serving, otherwise what you pour will be highly concentrated ethyl alcohol.

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Totally incorrect. A mixture of liquids has unique properties, different from the ones of the separate components, due to supramolecular ordening like hydrogen bonding. Have a look at the 'Properties of aqueous ethanol solutions' table on the Ethanol wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_%28data_page%29
Note that in alcoholic drinks the % of alcohol is expressed as v/v (volume over volume) not w/v (weight/volume). 100% proof in the US is 50% v/v.
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Old 04.09.2012, 15:03
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Totally incorrect.
Wrong.

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Re: Should vodka freeze?

When I point my gun at my bottle of vodka and yell "Freeze!" it stops moving, so, yes, if it knows what's good for it, vodka should freeze.
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Re: Should vodka freeze?

Wow!!! I stand corrected It is thus not totally but still incorrect as you would need much colder temperatures than your freezer to freeze-distill vodka to a higher % And before all of you start getting the wrong ideas "Freeze distillation of alcoholic beverages is illegal in many countries"
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_freezing) From what I have heard about the laws on destillation here this probably also is the case in Switzerland...
BTW being Polish I have the authority to say that YES vodka should be drunk from the freezer in ice cold glasses and NO it should not be frozen just viscous when you take it out of the -20.

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Anyhow, I have a much simpler theory: could the placement in the freezer make a difference?
This indeed makes the most sense if you don't believe Smirnoff sells watered down vodka. Another explanation is of course that your teenage kids drank it and watered down the evidence

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Old 04.09.2012, 16:01
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From what I have heard about the laws on destillation here this probably also is the case in Switzerland...
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Certainly true: The law covers "all form and means of distillation".
Art.2 of Alkohlgesetz I/F/R

PS: 10 ml of 80 proof Vodka should weight 9.383 grams, this can be measured with a Hydrometer
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Re: Should vodka freeze?

If you don't want your vodka watered down, you can buy 95% grain alcohol in Italy for EUR 14 / liter!

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If your liquor is freezing, someone is watering it down.
If your liquor is freezing, offer him a hot drink beforehand .
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"Freeze distillation of alcoholic beverages is illegal in many countries"
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_freezing) From what I have heard about the laws on destillation here this probably also is the case in Switzerland...
Actually, not, as distillation of any kind is perfectly legal here, so long as you pay the tax, or own large animals, for which you are permitted to produce 1 liter / animal / year.

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Actually, not, as distillation of any kind is perfectly legal here, so long as you pay the tax, or own large animals, for which you are permitted to produce 1 liter / animal / year.

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Why does owning animals allow you to produce spirits tax free? Is it a hygene thing?
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Why does owning animals allow you to produce spirits tax free? Is it a hygene thing?
More medicinal. It sterilizes, cleans and heals.
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Actually, not, as distillation of any kind is perfectly legal here, so long as you pay the tax, or own large animals, for which you are permitted to produce 1 liter / animal / year.

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I assume we are talking about DIY distilling on ones own premises with its own equipment. It is not as simply as just paying the taxes. The distilling equipment (fridge in our case or a simple bucket if you do it in winter time) needs a license. There are three ways to get a license for the fridge/bucket: 1) you are a farmer who owns a farm with distilling right or you become a farmer and buy a farm with distilling right, 2) You go commercial and will produce more than 200 liters of pure alcohol per year, 3) Yo open a toll distillation service a.k.a. "The Traveling Jack Fridge"
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More medicinal. It sterilizes, cleans and heals.
It's not bad for the animals either
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Vodka is a mixture of water with ethanol.
It is not. Sometimes it's written "vodka" on this shit sold in Denner, Coop or Aldi for 9-15 frs, but it is not vodka. You will not have any ice crystals in normal vodka.
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It is not. Sometimes it's written "vodka" on this shit sold in Denner, Coop or Aldi for 9-15 frs, but it is not vodka. You will not have any ice crystals in normal vodka.
Generally Vodka the best Vodka will be a mixture of water an 40% ethanol. The cheap stuff on the other hand will contain all sorts of fusel alcohols (the stuff that lets you go blind if you consume too much of it, in low concentration you just get a worse hang-over than you would get anyway. ).
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Re: Should vodka freeze?

Maybe is a Smirnoff "Swiss special edition"
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Re: Should vodka freeze?

Vodka doesn't freeze. Good vodka, of course. Yet, it is better to have it slightly chilled, not from a freezer.
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Vodka is a mixture of water with ethanol. In the freezer, the water will freeze and the ethanol will remain liquid. So normally you should have ice crystals floating in ethanol. Because ice is pure water, you need to melt it completely before serving, otherwise what you pour will be highly concentrated ethyl alcohol.

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No, it's not a mixture, it's a solution. That means the ethanol molecules are attracted to the water molecules through dipole forces and are arranged in complex patterns. The water part shouldn't be able to freeze or form ice slush, unless there is too much water and not enough alcohol, or if there is methanol in the mix, which is a sign of poor distilling (and is poisonous to drink). If ice slush forms in the bottle, don't drink it.
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BTW being Polish I have the authority to say that YES vodka should be drunk from the freezer in ice cold glasses and NO it should not be frozen just viscous when you take it out of the -20.
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Totally agree. Being Russian I just want to add that vodka will freeze at about -25
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Totally agree. Being Russian I just want to add that vodka will freeze at about -25
What kind of vodka?

To be sure for the quality, drink "Beluga", probably the best vodka in the world.

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Totally agree. Being Russian I just want to add that vodka will freeze at about -25
Must, below -26 C appr., 40 % vol.
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