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Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich? All the big supermarkets have non-veg cheese only from what I gather.
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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

Vegetarian cheese is a bit of an oxymoron. Is it made of Tofu? Good luck. I've seen 1 piece of tofu in Carrefoure and it was 18CHF.
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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

I'm really confused. What do you mean by Vegetarian cheese? Do you mean Vegan cheese that isn't made from animal products?

There is a Health food Market not too far from Paddy Reillys that has some I believe. Sorry I can't be more specific than that. Does anybody know the one I'm talking about?


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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

probably made without Wikipedia reference-linkRennet?
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Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich? All the big supermarkets have non-veg cheese only from what I gather.

Apparently in CH for a cheese to be labeled BIO it has to use lab (rennin) as a catalyst - most of all of which gets removed from the cheese (when they pour away the Molke (Rivella is mad of that). The amount of Lab they use is tiny and these days 3/4 of catalysts are synthetic. But vegetarians who want to be extremely orthodox, need cheese that has not had lab used for its creation (gained from a calves stomach). So since the majority of CH consumers buy BIO, purely veggie cheese might not be that easy to find.

Interesting fact for you vegetarians out there:

Voncafe (the only drinkable instant coffee) made by Migros contains beef blood which apparently helps it dissolve better - so coffee is not always veggi...
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Voncafe (the only drinkable instant coffee) made by Migros contains beef blood which apparently helps it dissolve better - so coffee is not always veggi...
I'm not a vegetarian but beef in coffee? It's probably tasteless and probably necessary but, yeeuggh!
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Old 29.11.2007, 16:51
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I'm not a vegetarian but beef in coffee? It's probably tasteless and probably necessary but, yeeuggh!

Well it answers the question "Whats for breakfast?"

BEEF


Actually, I have never liked instant coffee, but I do like Voncafe's Noblesse mixed with some milk - scrumptious
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Vegetarian cheese is a bit of an oxymoron. Is it made of Tofu? Good luck. I've seen 1 piece of tofu in Carrefoure and it was 18CHF.
Really?

Most cheese is made using Rennet and that makes it non-Veg.

Rennet = The lining membrane of the fourth stomach of the calf. In my opinion it is inhumane to kill calves for their stomach.

I guess I will continue without cheese.

As far a tofu is concerned it is reasonably cheep in Coop,Migros and Asian shops.
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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

Continue without cheese? Words you definitely won't be hearing from me. You're a better person than I.

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Apparently in CH for a cheese to be labeled BIO it has to use lab (rennin) as a catalyst - most of all of which gets removed from the cheese (when they pour away the Molke (Rivella is mad of that). The amount of Lab they use is tiny and these days 3/4 of catalysts are synthetic. But vegetarians who want to be extremely orthodox, need cheese that has not had lab used for its creation (gained from a calves stomach). So since the majority of CH consumers buy BIO, purely veggie cheese might not be that easy to find.

Interesting fact for you vegetarians out there:

Voncafe (the only drinkable instant coffee) made by Migros contains beef blood which apparently helps it dissolve better - so coffee is not always veggi...
Thanks fr the cheese info.

Wow is there anything that the food industry does not do? Luckily I am a tea guy
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Continue without cheese? Words you definitely won't be hearing from me. You're a better person than I.
on the posting thusfar, I have my doubts, Chemmie
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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

Have a word with Grumpygrapefruit, he just launched a cheese shop and may have some or know where you could find some.
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Really?

Most cheese is made using Rennet and that makes it non-Veg.

Rennet = The lining membrane of the fourth stomach of the calf. In my opinion it is inhumane to kill calves for their stomach.

I guess I will continue without cheese.

As far a tofu is concerned it is reasonably cheep in Coop,Migros and Asian shops.
In my opinion rennet supply is a byproduct of veal meat consumption, rather than the other way around.
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In my opinion rennet supply is a byproduct of veal meat consumption, rather than the other way around.
LOL It's the "well it was dead anyway" approach
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Really?

Most cheese is made using Rennet and that makes it non-Veg.

Rennet = The lining membrane of the fourth stomach of the calf. In my opinion it is inhumane to kill calves for their stomach.

I guess I will continue without cheese.

As far a tofu is concerned it is reasonably cheep in Coop,Migros and Asian shops.
Well I don't think they kill the calves just for the rennet. Veal is the other reason.

Also, because these days only the tiniest amount of rennet is used and it is flushed off with the Molke anyway, its a-bit overkill to look for vegetarian cheese, but thats just my opinion of course. I hav emany vegetarian friends who dont seem to have a problem with it (and I don't mean vegetarians who call themselves that but eat fish - actually in Switzerland not alot of people even know what makes a vegetarian). If you are worried about the amount of rennin, you need to be very careful what you eat, chances are other items you deem safe are full of animal by-products.

But I would definitely not worry about all the calves that have to die for all the cheese in this country. Even if veal was not a popular food, it would not require alot of calve(s) to produce all the cheese in CH for a year.

If you bio non-bio cheese chances are 75% that no rennin was used.
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In my opinion rennet supply is a byproduct of veal meat consumption, rather than the other way around.
By product of calves getting killed for meat? I guess that makes it ok for you but not for me.
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By product of calves getting killed for meat? I guess that makes it ok for you but not for me.

Think of all the poor little calves that cannot graze on Swiss meadows anymore because the meadows have turned into housing or vegetable patches, both occupied by you...

But hey I do odd things too - like I do not like to buy atlantic salmon which I know is raised in fish farms in the pacific causing all sorts of problems to the native salmon there...

...or I do not eat sharkfin soup etc. I guess we all chose our own battles... just unfortunate you live in Switzerland the land of cheese - Wallace and Grommit would have a fit
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Well I don't think they kill the calves just for the rennet. Veal is the other reason.

Also, because these days only the tiniest amount of rennet is used and it is flushed off with the Molke anyway, its a-bit overkill to look for vegetarian cheese, but thats just my opinion of course. I hav emany vegetarian friends who dont seem to have a problem with it (and I don't mean vegetarians who call themselves that but eat fish - actually in Switzerland not alot of people even know what makes a vegetarian). If you are worried about the amount of rennin, you need to be very careful what you eat, chances are other items you deem safe are full of animal by-products.

But I would definitely not worry about all the calves that have to die for all the cheese in this country. Even if veal was not a popular food, it would not require alot of calve(s) to produce all the cheese in CH for a year.

If you bio non-bio cheese chances are 75% that no rennin was used.
I go out of my way to not support or consume any product that involves killing of animals. If unknowingly I consume some product then that is one thing but knowingly I can't. Sorry I can't change myself even if I wanted to. Your "vegetarian" friends should get in touch with me I have plenty of so called vegetarian friends who wear leather jackets and leather shoes. I am working on them
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I go out of my way to not support or consume any product that involves killing of animals. If unknowingly I consume some product then that is one thing but knowingly I can't. Sorry I can't change myself even if I wanted to. Your "vegetarian" friends should get in touch with me I have plenty of so called vegetarian friends who wear leather jackets and leather shoes. I am working on them

Cool dude - I respect that. Just tryin to see how serious you are about it. Cheers.
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Re: Where can I buy Vegetarian cheese in Zurich?

The vast majority of Swiss cheeses, among them every hard cheese, is produced with the aid of lab from calves. The few exceptions I know of are:
  • Sauerkäse aka Surchäs, Ploderkäse, Bloderchäs: A low-fat, slightly sour tasting cheese specialty of Eastern Switzerland (Toggenburg). The milk fermentation is slow and weak, neither lab nor an alternative is used.
  • GALA spread cheese is lab free but contains gelatine from an undisclosed source.
  • Some processed cheese slices are lab free but this isn't declared on the package.
  • Toni Glarner Kräuterkäse (Schabziger), an aromatic spread cheese specialty of canton Glarus.
  • Other than that, ask a Reformhaus (health food shop), maybe it can help you.
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Apparently in CH for a cheese to be labeled BIO it has to use lab (rennin) as a catalyst
As far as I know it has to be produced without genetically modified organisms. And these are involved in the production of one lab replacement substance.

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Voncafe (the only drinkable instant coffee) made by Migros contains beef blood which apparently helps it dissolve better - so coffee is not always veggi...
Source please! (Your wife's friend doesn't have some cute lab puppies up for adoption by any chance? )
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