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If someone would care to add some "meat" to this thread by sharing vegan experiences or benefits of their particular diet it would probably be more helpful than simply and continuously accusing the OP of veggie extremism.

Anytime there seems to be someone questioning a lifestyle choice it's all too easy to defend your particular habits or favorites as being the "best there could possibly be" simply for the sake of feeling great about yourself, which is purely an emotional response based on a thought rather than a fact. If you can grasp the concept that there may be different ways to achieve a desired goal, then you'd be breaking one bad habit for start.
To be fair, Assassin, the reaction is proportional to the position the OP took.

If he'd posted "I'm about to start vegan cooking classes because, lets face it, we could all do with eating more veg in our diets, and while veganism isn't for everybody, I can help you understand some options" - then that is suggesting "different ways to achieve a goal" and i suspect that the reaction would have been less extreme.

But by writing that he is one of the leading global exponents of the art, taking a pretty evangelical approach to his own lifestyle choice and not facing up to the criticisms of the only reference point he made.....I think he is reaping what he sowed (to use an analogy you people might understand )

"Sharing the benefits of their own diet"? Ok, I eat red meat less than once every two weeks, I eat chicken once a week, fish a couple of times, and vegetables in either salads, soups, juices or stews the rest of the time. I eat fruit and i eat nuts and i get my dairy intake through milk and yoghurt. I cook 95% of my own meals so don't get much processed food. I eat a balanced diet in line with almost all medical evidence. And i work in the food industry so i know a little bit about nutrition. And fads and extremism seem to me to miss the point about the human diet - swinging from one extreme to the other and claiming miracle diets or silver bullets just isn't right. Eat a varied diet with food as close to natural as possible and eat only the calories that you burn is the best advice that anyone ever gave about the subject.
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Quite right. The majority of people* are gullible fools and want their snake-oil.
Snake oil is bad for you.

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Hippocrates was a plant muncher, as well as Da Vinci, Socrates, Platos, Charles Darwin and Benjamin Franklin, to name a few.
If the diet's so good how come they're all dead.
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One thing the Australian SAS gave me was never be scared to front someone head on LOL
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One thing the Australian SAS gave me was never be scared to front someone head on LOL
Please tell me there is more to come. Please.

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Throwing a party real soon all you big brave souls are invited I love eye to eye contact far better than this pussy internet thing - This is how much I believe in myself LOL
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How often do we have to point it out? Post likes this is useless without pictures......
I was thinking about putting an offer on the car you had for sale but after reading your replies on here went out and bought one for 21k
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I was thinking about putting an offer on the car you had for sale but after reading your replies on here went out and bought one for 21k
Good for you. I honestly don't think you should lower yourself to drive an Audi 1.8 as well, as you would stand out too much among the stars and celebs your are smothering.

Reading your posts make me wonder if hash is vegan?
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Keep up the good Work Vegan Chef!
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One thing the Australian SAS gave me was never be scared to front someone head on LOL

The thread that keeps on giving......


What colour is the boathouse in Swanbourne??


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Re: Vegan Cooking classes

First off, keep up the good work with the vegan cooking classes.
Second, my personal experience: I was vegetarian 23 years, vegan for 7 of those years. During that time while i was vegan, i was also pursuing endurance athletics (running marathons, hiked the appalachian trail, etc.) After 7 years of not eating any animal products, i felt drained. (I had maintained a varied diet rich in cereals, legumes, fresh produce,hemp, flax, nut. yeast, etc.. Not a tofurkey/vegan ice cream style diet)
Why? Because although it is possible to sustain the human body with purely plant based foods, it is extremly difficult to recieve all of the essential amino acids from plant foods AT THE SAME TIME, which is necessary for the body to assemble the aminos into complete proteins (muscle and other tissues). So after years of eating all of the aminos, but maybe not always at the same time, the body slowly falls into a protein deficit. It gradually begins to eat away at the less important organs (such as the brain) to feed those that are critically essential for keeping the body alive (such as heart, liver, kidneys). I read a study on this, and will post a link if possible, where autopsies of long term vegans showed a significant decrease in brain weight when compared to the general population...

So, i began eating fish and seafood sporadically, once a week or two, and i feel much better physically with the complete protein.

lucklee my brane stil werks
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In Buddhish teachings the rarest gem in a tormentor Becauce they are the only one's who allow you to practice your tolerance & compassion.
So let them bring it on.
But thank you for you support , will let you know once we are up and running.
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I read a study on this, and will post a link if possible, where autopsies of long term vegans showed a significant decrease in brain weight when compared to the general population...
Or significant decrease in brain weight leads to veganism?

Correlation is tricky thing....
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Re: Vegan Cooking classes

Can we get back to the real subject of this post for a second. I would be interested in such class, where and when will these classes be held?

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Throwing a party real soon all you big brave souls are invited I love eye to eye contact far better than this pussy internet thing - This is how much I believe in myself LOL
Will there be something edible and fit for consumption by human
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Re: Vegan Cooking classes

I have a question for the OP - doesn't really follow the flow of the thread but it's about Veganism and I couldn't find any other threads to post it

You mention that you don't consume oils? Just wondering about the rationale for that. I think on one of the posts above I said that there is massive (in my eyes) evidence that the film you watch is not based on solid science, so if you don't mind not citing that, it would be great. I used to be heavily involved in the edible oils business, and you obviously need and consume oils through your diet as part of the food you do eat, so genuinely interested in where the "no oil" thing comes from

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I have a question for the OP - doesn't really follow the flow of the thread but it's about Veganism and I couldn't find any other threads to post it

You mention that you don't consume oils? Just wondering about the rationale for that. I think on one of the posts above I said that there is massive (in my eyes) evidence that the film you watch is not based on solid science, so if you don't mind not citing that, it would be great. I used to be heavily involved in the edible oils business, and you obviously need and consume oils through your diet as part of the food you do eat, so genuinely interested in where the "no oil" thing comes from

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Are there teenagers on this board, look's like it to me

Think some of the posters are very young in the grey matter department
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Are there teenagers on this board, look's like it to me

Think some of the posters are very young in the grey matter department
Its a genuine question....I'm interested in the oils contained in nuts, avacado etc and why they play a different role in a diet to a virgin olive oil for example.

But if you would rather just insult me, ok.
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Its a genuine question....I'm interested in the oils contained in nuts, avacado etc and why they play a different role in a diet to a virgin olive oil for example.

But if you would rather just insult me, ok.
Sorry no , I do not want to insult anyone

I pressed fresh garlic and mortared cashew and sesame seed today to make my own non processed oils for roasting mushrooms
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Sorry no , I do not want to insult anyone

I pressed fresh garlic and mortared cashew and sesame seed today to make my own non processed oils for roasting mushrooms
Apology accepted

What is it about a home pressed cashew oil which is better for the body or the diet than an extra virgin olive oil? Or a standard sunflower oil? What is the mechanism which is harmful or undesirable?
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Think some of the posters are very young in the grey matter department
Oh, the ironing...
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