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Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

I live in Zurich Altstetten and over the past 2 months, no less than 4 new outlets from the big two have opened in our area.

We now have within a 900m radius of our flat, the following:

1 Migros superstore
1 Migros Express store
2 Migrolina petrol station shops
2 Coop pronto stores
2 Coop mid-size supermarkets
1 Coop superstore
1 Coop petrol station shop
2 Denners

That's 12 stores owned by just 2 companies, and 6 of these stores - including the 2 Coop mid size & the 2 Denner's - are within a 370m radius of each other.

I thought British supermarkets clustering tactics were bad, but this just seems nuts - why do they allow it
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

Do they stock brown sugar??
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I live in Zurich Altstetten and over the past 2 months, no less than 4 new outlets from the big two have opened in our area.

We now have within a 900m radius of our flat, the following:

1 Migros superstore
1 Migros Express store
2 Migrolina petrol station shops
2 Coop pronto stores
2 Coop mid-size supermarkets
1 Coop superstore
1 Coop petrol station shop
2 Denners

That's 12 stores owned by just 2 companies, and 6 of these stores - including the 2 Coop mid size & the 2 Denner's - are within a 370m radius of each other.

I thought British supermarkets clustering tactics were bad, but this just seems nuts - why do they allow it
The worst bit about it is that they'll be closed on a Sunday
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

The good news is, that from 10 from 12, you can buy boooooze.
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The good news is, that from 10 from 12, you can buy boooooze.
On Sundays?
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On Sundays?
Nope. He means that from 10 of the 12 shops you can buy booze. Alas still not on Sundays
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The worst bit about it is that they'll be closed on a Sunday
Actually, Coop Pronto is generally open on Sunday - at least the one at Barfusserplatz here is.
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within a 370m radius of each other.
I hope there's a tram.

Were they always shops/supermarkets, or were they opened by Coop/Migros (that is did Migros/Coop buy some other shop to make sure nobody else did?)?
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The worst bit about it is that they'll be closed on a Sunday
At least COOP pronto and migrolino are open on Sunday and also open till late evenings around 10 or 11 pm. They sell Alcohols and Cigarettes as well...the emergency stuffs
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

Funny thing is, its cheaper going over to germany for your shopping than it is walking to any of the 12 stores near your house!
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

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I live in Zurich Altstetten and over the past 2 months, no less than 4 new outlets from the big two have opened in our area.

We now have within a 900m radius of our flat, the following:

1 Migros superstore
1 Migros Express store
2 Migrolina petrol station shops
2 Coop pronto stores
2 Coop mid-size supermarkets
1 Coop superstore
1 Coop petrol station shop
2 Denners

That's 12 stores owned by just 2 companies, and 6 of these stores - including the 2 Coop mid size & the 2 Denner's - are within a 370m radius of each other.

I thought British supermarkets clustering tactics were bad, but this just seems nuts - why do they allow it
Are there any restraunts nearby? maybe not and they need the shops as they all cook at home!
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

The good news for Altstetten's car sales industry is that people will still drive over 5km to the shops, around the car park (for the "best" space) and home again on a bi-weekly basis. And live in the same 900m radius.
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Funny thing is, its cheaper going over to germany for your shopping than it is walking to any of the 12 stores near your house!
How much does the gas cost to save 10c on that liter of milk?
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How much does the gas cost to save 10c on that liter of milk?
see post above yours for clarification that driving to Germany ain't much further
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see post above yours for clarification that driving to Germany ain't much further
It's very far for me.

It's not worth it to drive to France (or Germany!) for two of us. If you live in Geneva or Basel, that's another story.
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Re: Migros/Coop: Local colonization out of hand?

One would think that, instead of opening multiple small locations in a cluster like this, there would be a desire to consolidate and open one supermarket-sized location. It would probably save on labor costs, transportation costs, etc.

Maybe somebody could take advantage of this clustering and start a bicycle-based home-delivery service? Get the starches and veggies from Migros, and the "sauce" from Denner?
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One would think that, instead of opening multiple small locations in a cluster like this, there would be a desire to consolidate and open one supermarket-sized location. It would probably save on labor costs, transportation costs, etc.
Just proves how much we pay through the nose for all things.
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The worst bit about it is that they'll be closed on a Sunday
They are not! The fairly large COOP Pronto at Bahnhof Altstetten is open seven days a week from 06.00 till 23.00 (and does sell booze).
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One would think that, instead of opening multiple small locations in a cluster like this, there would be a desire to consolidate and open one supermarket-sized location. It would probably save on labor costs, transportation costs, etc.

Maybe somebody could take advantage of this clustering and start a bicycle-based home-delivery service? Get the starches and veggies from Migros, and the "sauce" from Denner?
Migros Neumarkt and Coop Letzipark are two big supermarkets.
Also Coop Solida-Park isn't that small either.

Miss the Spar at Lindenplatz, alltough filthy it had stuff you could find neither at Coop or Migros. Now I have to go to Rio Getränk to get my Möhl Cider. But the Turkish-Shop at Badener-/Altstetterstrasse is still there. Also near the Area are: Aldi at Hohl-/Flurstrasse. The Indian guy at Basler-/Mürtschstrasse. The Organic food shop at Basler-/Altstetterstrasse.

PS: There are four Denners: one at Lindenplatz, one in the Neumarkt, one at Hohlstrasse 610, and one in Letzipark.
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