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Old 26.07.2013, 21:43
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Thanks everyone for the good info everyone on beer sellers. Looks like I have some shopping to do this weekend.

And the Bier Factory even has a craft brew festival coming up.
http://www.bierfactory.ch/craft-bier-festival/?lang=en

I know where I'll be on September 1!
im there as well!
looks like an EF meeting
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The local stores (Migros, Vogt, etc.) all have a horrible selection of very light beers -- Karlskrone, Feldschlosschen, etc. -- that remind me of the Budweiser, Coors and other lagers sold in the U.S. Even the larger stores seem to focus on their wine sections.

Is there somewhere between Zurich and Rapperswil that sells quality brews in bottles or cans. I especially like brown ales, stouts and Belgium white beers. Also, does the area have any small "craft" breweries?
Try the British Cheese Centre in the Viaduct Market...great selection of great tasting beers, you wont be disappointed, and a very knowledgeable owner, Mike will find a brew to your liking...happy hunting!
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Re: Good Beer -- Where Can You Buy It?

My local Coop in Albisrieden sells London Pride, ESB, Hoegaarden, some Italian artisan beers, Guinness, Boddingtons, Leffe, Erdinger, Sam Adams, Brooklyn IPA, Murphys. The one at Letzipark also has a good selection.

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My local Coop in Albisrieden sells London Pride, ESB, Hoegaarden, some Italian artisan beers, Guinness, Boddingtons, Leffe, Erdinger, Sam Adams, Brooklyn IPA, Murphys. The one at Letzipark also has a good selection.

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What is good beer ? Dad was rather disappointed in München by what he called watery beer. He detested the "old" Wädenswiler Bier" and was not surprised when that company collapsed. Grandmum liked the Falkenbräu but Mum always said that Falkenbräu was acid. I love Murphy's Red and Stella Artois (incl Stella Artois Egypt ) and many of the Italian beers like the


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What is good beer ?
This..

http://www.barnsleybeercompany.co.uk...eer.php?id=107

And this...

http://www.caledonianbeer.com/beers/deuchars-ipa

And all these...

http://www.inveralmond-brewery.co.uk...ollection.html

And this...

http://www.horecasupport.nl/admin_as...ots/dubbel.jpg
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Re: Good Beer -- Where Can You Buy It?

The 3rd Craft Bier Festival on Sept. 1 in Rapperswil will have 30 swiss craft beers.

Breweries confirmed...most are bringing rare or unreleased beer.

Bad Attitude
Bier Factory
Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes (BFM)
Brasserie Trois Dames
BrauWerk
Schmitte Bier
Churer Stadtbier
Cow Water
Degenbier
Gutknecht's Hammer-Bier
Kornhausbräu AG
La Brasserie du Chauve
Octopus-Brau
Officina della Birra
Öufi-Brauerei
St. Johann
Stillmans
Storm&Anchor
UG - Bräu
Unser Bier
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If your looking for something to replace Fat Tire, Singletrack, Avalanche or any other Breckenridge or Boulder brew then forget it. That standard of beer brewing has not reached these shores. I have not tried grumpys beer yet but I hear good things about them. The closest I have found is Sudwerk.ch which can be found in coop but only in single bottles. If only we could get cases of Dales IPA, the best camping beer ever made.
No, don't forget it. Visit Rappi Bier factory before you say that. Sudwerk is OK, just OK, but not in the same league as Rappi.
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Re: Good Beer -- Where Can You Buy It?

For those in the Suisse Romande or looking to buy online, Amstein import beer from 20-odd countries. There's something for everyone, and the less obscure, easy to find imports (e.g. Guinness or Leffe) are a lot cheaper than you'll find them at COOP or Manor.

The shop is open to the public and located just next to the Vevey junction of the highway.
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Old 08.08.2013, 11:15
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Re: Good Beer -- Where Can You Buy It?

There is no doubt that the US has embraced microbrewing and is some producing some good beers - but it is far from the yardstick that many colonists would make you believe it is.

There is some fine US beer now available - and on the back of that boom are the pubs that carry it. Valhalla in NYC is a great example - modern style bar with 50 beers. Porter's (Little 5 Points, Atlanta) trumps it with over 100 beers from around the world.

But what does that have to do with Switzerland??

Well Switzerland isn't without its small (and large) breweries producing quality products. Adler (Glarus) produces an excellent range of beers - often seasonal - to cover most Germanic palettes. There are small breweries in Chur and Wintherthur producing good beers. The drinks market in Maur also stocks an amazing range of beers from around the world - often having "something" on offer - Robinsons Trooper was last months (brewed by Iron Maiden).

The "mainstream" beer found in Switzerland is of the same quality as that found anywhere in the world - Carling, Fosters, Budweiser, Miller are hardly good beers - but they are what you will find pretty much everywhere.

If you do want to experiment with the beers - The Federal in the HB has a range that will keep you going until Doomsday.
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Old 08.08.2013, 11:30
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What is good beer ?
Nothing that's yellow. One of my favorite beers from San Diego called Arrogant Bastard has a saying on its bottle, "only wusses drink yellow fizzy beer". Although I do have problems to drink AB every time I go home. It's a triple hopped IPA, one that sort of takes some getting used to before one can enjoy its flavor profile. Comming from CH beer to AB is to too far of leap in terms of hoppiness. You have to work your way up to that level. So what is the hoppiest beer here in CH?
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Nothing that's yellow.
That is quite a blinkered view on beer.

Beer can range in colour from pale yellow to thick black. And all beers have their place. However for the fast majority of those "Yellow" beers that place is down the drain. But it doesn't mean that good lager/pils beers don't exist - or should be avoided at all costs.

Doing so would be akin to saying Wine should be red!

On a hot day, after working hard in the garden, I am not going to reach for a dark malty beer - but a crisp, fresh, light lager would be perfect.
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Nothing that's yellow. One of my favorite beers from San Diego called Arrogant Bastard has a saying on its bottle, "only wusses drink yellow fizzy beer". Although I do have problems to drink AB every time I go home. It's a triple hopped IPA, one that sort of takes some getting used to before one can enjoy its flavor profile. Comming from CH beer to AB is to too far of leap in terms of hoppiness. You have to work your way up to that level. So what is the hoppiest beer here in CH?
Hoppiest beer IN Switzerland (but not brewed here), is probably my Punk IPA and Hardcore IPA, but at 9.2% the Hardcore really is hardcore. If you can find hopper ones, I'd love to try them.

Although the Rappi Harvest Hop brewed, I believe, in the autumn will also tickle your hop buds too.
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Re: Good Beer -- Where Can You Buy It?

Wait, what? Arrogant Bastard is now oaked? Holy Sh#t I need to try this!
A review from a UK perspective. To be honest I have never seen beer reviewed like wine, but that's the quality of beers today.

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That is quite a blinkered view on beer.

Beer can range in colour from pale yellow to thick black. And all beers have their place. However for the fast majority of those "Yellow" beers that place is down the drain. But it doesn't mean that good lager/pils beers don't exist - or should be avoided at all costs.

Doing so would be akin to saying Wine should be red!

On a hot day, after working hard in the garden, I am not going to reach for a dark malty beer - but a crisp, fresh, light lager would be perfect.
I completely agree
Hot summer weather is yellow beer and white wine time.
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New Zealand Beer in Switzerland, you say?
In Rapperswil?
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I completely agree
Hot summer weather is yellow beer and white/rose wine time.
Tweaked that for you!!

Something I have found quite interesting is to take a malty lager style beer and mix it 50/50 with sparking mineral water.

You create a non-sweet "shandy" - and is a perfect "end of hike" drink.

Some of the UK's "poor" breweries are now gaining excellent reputations. Back in the day my father recalled that St Austell brewery having a shocking reputation - it now produces a fantastic range of great beers. Both Proper Job and Proper Black (the latter appears to be discontinued) are fantastic - and in stock (I believe) with Grumpy

Beer also falls in and out of fashion. IPA, IMHO, is at a point where (certainly in US brewing terms) it is going too far down the hoppy route. An IPA should be hoppy - but it shouldn't dominate at the expense of other flavours. The other big consideration is how high the ABV is getting on some of the beers. Not too bad if you enjoy just one - but not ideal for an evening with friends. The following day can be "uncomfortable" - apparently
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Not too bad if you enjoy just one - but not ideal for an evening with friends. The following day can be "uncomfortable" - apparently
I have no idea what you are talking about
I wouldn't say that some beers have too much hops, more like they don't have anything else as in just hops. I think the key is to have balance between the hops and malts. The best is when you have a very fresh hoppy forward then somewhere in the middle it transitions to roasted malts with a bitter finish.
It really depends on my mood as to which beer I like the best. Which is why Fat Tire is one of my favorites, it's chalk full of flavor yet smooth enough to pound em away till the cows come home.
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Ah...Fat Tire. Have not had that in a few months. Miss that shit.

Just in case there is any thought that a "colonist" does not know as much about beer as their "native born cousins", allow me to show this picture.


In this picture, this is only about 1/5 of the beer selection at our (former) local Whole Foods (only about 2/5s is kept in the cold box). If you look closely you will see three different Chimays, most Samuel Smiths, Leffe, Delirum, etc etc. These are the "common beers" ready for drinking. Outside of this walk-in you have the other 3/5s of "less common" beers that includes most beers from Belgium, more-than-you-can-count German and Austrian beers, even more obscure US micros, English beers, French beers and...surprisingly...a healthy selection of SWISS BEERS.

Its laughable that I've seen and bought more beers from the Jura in the US than I have from BOTW Zurich (however, BOTW Luzern does in fact have more Jura beers than Zurich).

I miss Whole Foods.
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Just in case there is any thought that a "colonist" does not know as much about beer as their "native born cousins", allow me to show this picture.
You mean they had the good sense to at least import good beers?

Ah come on, you knew that was coming...
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You mean they had the good sense to at least import good beers?

Ah come on, you knew that was coming...
You're right. And I suppose the Swiss could learn a thing or two about supply and demand from the Yanks.
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