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Halal food in basel

Hi all,
Do you happen to know where can I find muslim halal meat and poultry in basel.
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Re: Halal food in basel

Narli Market, Haupstrasse 411(near Rhein Center), Weil am Rhein Germany and
Itifaq Meat shop, Lorrachersterstrasse, Reihen (tram 6 to Reihen)
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Re: Halal food in basel

the ittefaq meat shop has moved to klybeckstrasse 78, claraplatz basel...
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Worth noting that Halal food is not legal in CH - as animals MUST be stunned before the kill.

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The Swiss banned kosher slaughter in 1893.[35]
"In Switzerland, a ban on kosher slaughter has been enforced since 1897, when the people supported this measure through a referendum with clear anti-Semitic undertones. At the time, Jews had recently been granted full civil rights and some Swiss citizens feared an invasion of Jewish migrants from Eastern Europe, who they considered to be unassimilable, foreign and unreliable. By banning the performance of a core Jewish ritual, the Swiss people found a disguised way to limit the immigration of Jews into Switzerland."[14]
According to the US Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour "Ritual slaughter (the bleeding to death of animals that have not first been stunned) was made illegal in the country in 1893; however, a 1978 Law on the Protection of Animals explicitly allows for the importation of kosher and halal meat. Imported from France and Germany, this meat is available in the country at comparable prices. In 2003, a popular initiative to protect animal rights and prohibit the import of meat from animals bled without stunning was filed; in December 2005, however, the sponsors withdrew their initiative before it had been submitted to a national vote after Parliament adopted a revision of the Law on the Protection of Animals."[36]
There was a backlash against a proposal to lift the ban in 2002.[35] "In 2002, when the Swiss government attempted to lift the century-old ban, animal rights activists, political groups (on the left and the right), and unaffiliated citizens expressed strong opposition. They called shechita practice a "barbaric" and "sanguinary," an "archaic tradition from the time of the ghettos," and asked Jews to either become vegetarian or leave the country."[14]
[edit] Proposals to extend ban to imports

Switzerland have considered extending the ban in order to prohibit importing kosher products. The Swiss Animal Association called for a referendum on banning kosher imports.[20] Christopher Blocher, a cabinet minister for the Swiss People's Party, has supported calls to ban the import of kosher and halal meat.[37]
"A recent survey showed more than three-quarters of the population said they would like to see their government ban even the import of kosher meat. Erwin Kessler, an animal rights activist, has been campaigning vigorously for this. He’s 40,000 short of the 100,000 signatures needed to trigger a referendum to completely ban kosher and halal meat entering Switzerland. Kessler has inflamed the controversy by publicly comparing kosher slaughter to the methods used by Nazis in concentration camps, but denies that his motives are, in fact, anti-semitic."[22]
"Should a proposed ban on the import of kosher meat be accepted by the Swiss people in 2006, it will effectively force Jews who observe kashrut to abstain from the consumption of meat. Muslims will also be affected by this move."[14]
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Re: Halal food in basel

There is a market right out of Basel across the border in Weil am Rhein, in the street that crosses the Marktkauf, there is a Turkish supermarket and they offer halal meat. Hope that helps!
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Old 28.04.2011, 21:27
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Worth noting that Halal food is not legal in CH - as animals MUST be stunned before the kill.
Not at all - Halal slaughtering is illegal in Switzerland, though the importation of Halal meat is perfectly legal. Also there's a weird "Halal" thing in Coop where the animal is stunned first but the process is supervised by a Muslim. This is of course not Halal though.
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Thanks for editing your post Odile, but I reconfirm that Halal meat is perfectly legal in Switzerland in every sense of the word, and is widely and publicly available.
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Old 28.04.2011, 21:43
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Yes, apologies - I meant halal killing. The link does explain that importation is legal- but that many groups would like to close that loop-hole. I make no value judgment here- just state the Law as it is in CH.
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Yes, apologies - I meant halal killing. The link does explain that importation is legal- but that many groups would like to close that loop-hole. I make no value judgment here- just state the Law as it is in CH.
In a direct democracy one will find "many groups" trying to do any number of things. A vote passing is another thing.
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Old 28.04.2011, 21:57
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Did you really miss the whole Minaret saga? I think a vote on Halal would win hands down actually. But this is not what this thread is about, so sorry about diversion.
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Did you really miss the whole Minaret saga? I think a vote on Halal would win hands down actually. But this is not what this thread is about, so sorry about diversion.
My point, such as it was, was that the OP wants to buy some Halal meat in Basel. Any points as to the legality thereof obscure the issue therefore, since they have to impact on the availability of Halal meat in Switzerland and Basel, which is wide.

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Re: Halal food in basel

There is a Halal Shop in KleinBasel at the Feldbergstrasse Stop.
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There is a market right out of Basel across the border in Weil am Rhein, in the street that crosses the Marktkauf, there is a Turkish supermarket and they offer halal meat. Hope that helps!
Donīt forget that you are allowed to take only 500g of "red" meat over the border, hardly enough for a BBQ.
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There is a market right out of Basel across the border in Weil am Rhein, in the street that crosses the Marktkauf, there is a Turkish supermarket and they offer halal meat. Hope that helps!
This is the Narli shop mentioned earlier. Very nice choice of meat. The owners are a Turkish Family from France. They are very nice and helpful. All their meat are Halal, good quality and cheaper than Basel.

We don't care to buy Halal or not, we buy there because of the price of the chicken and the meat. But I am not buying there if I want a nice juicy and tender steak. For that, Coop and Migros have much better choices and quality (but not Halal). Even Markthauf actually.

And yes, be careful to not exceed 500 gr /person for meat when buying accross the border. Don't forget to ask for the taxe declaration sheet to get your taxes back!
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Donīt forget that you are allowed to take only 500g of "red" meat over the border, hardly enough for a BBQ.
That's not exactly true. You can take more but you need to declare it and pay tax on it.
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That's not exactly true. You can take more but you need to declare it and pay tax on it.
Also, reference a BBQ, I believe processed meat like burgers and sausages are not included in this 500 grams? You could get a load of lamb minced and do koftas
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Poultry and sausages are limited to 3.5kg per pers per day. Lamb is defo limited to 500gr, even if minced. I will check with my neighbour who is a customs officer - whether adding spices, etc, and shaping into koftas, burgers, etc, would make a difference, and will report later. Same for beef burgers. Report back later.
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Clear about sausages, ham, etc- but unclear about burgers made from fresh mince, lamb or beef. Neighbour asleep - as he is working tonight. Will check asap.
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That's not exactly true. You can take more but you need to declare it and pay tax on it.
Of course, my bad.
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