Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Food and drink  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #581  
Old 11.03.2015, 13:04
Me Myself & I's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Züri
Posts: 1,007
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 609 Times in 341 Posts
Me Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Looks great but at 30 CHFs per dish, that's comparable to Atul Kutcher.

http://www.benaresrestaurant.com/ind...la-carte-menu/
Unfortunately for us, CHF 25-30 is average for a main course in Zürich at sit-down restaurants regardless of the type of cuisine. And I'm not talking gourmet, just casual dining.

A 'simple' bratwurst and rösti costs 20-25 francs, a cordon bleu mit pommes 25 francs, a SchniPo 25-40 francs or a burger & fries 23 francs. And none of these require an extensive list of ingredients, preparation, presentation or service. Furthermore in several restaurants a lot of the ingredients are bought pre-cut, pre-prepared and frozen.

You could compare restaurants belonging to Atul Kochhar, Paul Kerridge, Simon Hopkinson or a number of other critically acclaimed cooks in the UK to Zürich, it's generally the same thing pricewise.

Quote:
View Post
It's amazing how Indian food is one of the cheapest cuisines to make at home, yet one of the most overpriced to buy in restaurants.
I don't believe this applies only to Indian food, it applies to most cuisines that are prepared at home. What about the cost of making pizzas, pasta, roasts, stews, risotto, BBQ or stir fries at home? They are way cheaper to prepare at home yet have similar profit margins in restaurants.

Quote:
View Post
In Indian restaurants, they make huge batches of the base ingredients... it does not take so long to cook the various curries, and the quality of meats etc are on the low end of the scale. It is a cheap (yet undeniably delicious) cuisine.
Delicious, absolutely. My favorite from India is Punjabi cuisine, North Indian. Lots of butter and cream .

In restaurants it generally does not take long to cook any dish. If customers had to wait an hour or more for their food, I'm certain they would complain, unless of course they were aware of it beforehand.

This certainly does not apply only to Indian restaurants. In most restaurants, mis en place (prep of ingredients, sauces, stocks, etc...) is essential to producing and serving dishes within an acceptable time frame. Even with the beloved pizza, the tomato sauce is pre-prepared, as is the dough. The same applies to any continental dish served in/with a sauce that requires demi glace or stocks. Vegetables are pre-prepared, as are pastas (fresh), risottos, other starches and sauces.

In most Indian restaurants they make base sauces (makhani, jalfrezzi, vindaloo, etc...). When an order comes in, they add the prepped and portioned meat/fish/seafood/vegetable to the base sauce, add the required spices, herbs and finishing touches and serve.

One of the several cuisines I grew up on was Punjabi and I can assure you that none of the meats were of low quality. We only used prime cuts of lamb, mutton, pork, whole chickens, fresh fish, sweet fresh prawns, live lobsters, fresh crab, juicy pork chops, fresh seasonal veggies, butter, cream, yogurt, etc... Any restaurant serving lower quality food would not remain open too long.

If I was served substandard meat, I would send it back. I would never eat it and therefore would never have served it.


Quote:
View Post

But the Price Level is not due to this but based on
- Price of location
- Price of importation
I would have to disagree you with you here Wolli. One of the primary costs in operating a restaurant is food cost, followed by labor cost.

Location and importation costs apply to most businesses, not just restaurants. Restaurateurs cannot influence their rent expense or the laws governing the importation of food and beverages, but they can control the food and labor costs which greatly influence the selling price. Controlling these 2 costs are major factors in contributing to the success of a restaurant.

With the Greek example, the owners should have been fully aware of the costs associated with opening and running a restaurant prior to opening, wherever the location. Unfortunately restaurant failures happen all over the world, even in locations that are inexpensive and where food and labour is plentiful and inexpensive. Feasibility studies are imperative but often not conducted. Running a restaurant is not a simple business, and this is why a majority fail.

I must add, having being disappointed by most Indian restaurants in Zürich owing to the lack of authenticity, I have resorted to only eating curries from the simple Sri Lankan places on or close to Langstrasse. Friend's Corner on Josefstrasse serves freshly made Sri Lankan curries for only CHF 14 a portion as does India Street food on Langstrasse.

Got me hungry now!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Me Myself & I for this useful post:
  #582  
Old 11.03.2015, 13:22
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 18,873
Groaned at 839 Times in 654 Posts
Thanked 29,216 Times in 11,816 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
I would have to disagree you with you here Wolli. One of the primary costs in operating a restaurant is food cost, followed by labor cost.

Location and importation costs apply to most businesses, not just restaurants.
Unless a restaurant is particularly bad and has to rely on walk-ins to survive, location costs needn't be a big factor.

Some of the best restaurants I have been to (outside of Switzerland) have been ones I've heard about through word-of-mouth. They're invariably tucked away down some suburban back-street but they're always packed, every night.

I know it might seem bizarre for Wolli and others but there some restaurants in the rest of the world that really can survive on the quality of their cuisine and service alone.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #583  
Old 11.03.2015, 13:28
Me Myself & I's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Züri
Posts: 1,007
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 609 Times in 341 Posts
Me Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond reputeMe Myself & I has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Unless a restaurant is particularly bad and has to rely on walk-ins to survive, location costs needed be a big factor.

Some of the best restaurants I have been to (outside of Switzerland) have been ones I've heard about through word-of-mouth. They're invariably tucked away down some suburban back-street but they're always packed, every night.

I know it might seem bizarre for Wolli and others but there some restaurants in the rest of the world that really can survive on the quality of their cuisine and service alone.
Couldn't agree with you more mate!
Reply With Quote
  #584  
Old 03.04.2017, 09:51
sunshinefamily's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Schwyz-ish
Posts: 46
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
sunshinefamily has no particular reputation at present
The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Hi,

Monday morning and laready thinking about curry

As this thread was a while ago now & things change....looking for recommendations for a great indian restaurant in Zurich pls.

Have heard of Tamarind Hill, Oerlikon - which looked great, but is out of the city.

What would you say is currently the best indian in Zurich?
thx
Reply With Quote
  #585  
Old 04.04.2017, 22:46
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 8
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
albertomarchesi has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

There is anice little restaurant in Hufgasse near Bellevue
Reply With Quote
  #586  
Old 05.04.2017, 08:40
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 701
Groaned at 18 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 917 Times in 418 Posts
scipio has a reputation beyond reputescipio has a reputation beyond reputescipio has a reputation beyond reputescipio has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
I know it might seem bizarre for Wolli and others but there some restaurants in the rest of the world that really can survive on the quality of their cuisine and service alone.
Same is true here. Just because you haven't found them, doesn't mean that they do not exist. Keep an open mind.
Reply With Quote
  #587  
Old 06.04.2017, 10:22
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Nyon
Posts: 991
Groaned at 15 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 1,104 Times in 533 Posts
Rachel Moore has a reputation beyond reputeRachel Moore has a reputation beyond reputeRachel Moore has a reputation beyond reputeRachel Moore has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Hi, I know that this thread is related to Indian curry houses in Zürich, but for anyone in the Vaud/Geneva region looking for the best curry in the area (I'm talking UK standard here!) there is a fantastic family run one called Rajpoute located 15 minutes across the Ferney Voltaire border (Geneva airport) in Ornex. Full of ex-pat Brits and ex-pat other nationalities who work at the UN and other Geneva world organisations and banks. The great thing is that prices are in € and so your CHF goes so much further than in Geneva!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Rachel Moore for this useful post:
  #588  
Old 10.04.2017, 20:50
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Zurich.
Posts: 102
Groaned at 5 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 67 Times in 33 Posts
3daystubble has earned some respect3daystubble has earned some respect
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

I really like the Indian Chalet in Horgen.
In particular the Lamb Curry, Laal Maanz.. ( literally Red Lamb) Its excellent. The best indian I've had in Switzerland actually , even compared to Rajpoute in Ornex near Geneva which I used to consider the best Indian around.
It is literally a Chalet, ( ornate carved wood the works ) , just across the street from the Upper Horgen Train Station.
Very very good, Imho. oh yeah in addition to the Laal Maanz I recommend the Mulligatanni Soup there.
Reserve cause space is limited specially on weekends. They even do a sunday buffet, haven't been for that yet but im sure its good too.

Last edited by 3daystubble; 10.04.2017 at 20:50. Reason: Ornex instead of Ferney
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank 3daystubble for this useful post:
  #589  
Old 12.04.2017, 13:39
sunshinefamily's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Schwyz-ish
Posts: 46
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
sunshinefamily has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
I really like the Indian Chalet in Horgen.
In particular the Lamb Curry, Laal Maanz.. ( literally Red Lamb) Its excellent. The best indian I've had in Switzerland actually , even compared to Rajpoute in Ornex near Geneva which I used to consider the best Indian around.
It is literally a Chalet, ( ornate carved wood the works ) , just across the street from the Upper Horgen Train Station.
Very very good, Imho. oh yeah in addition to the Laal Maanz I recommend the Mulligatanni Soup there.
Reserve cause space is limited specially on weekends. They even do a sunday buffet, haven't been for that yet but im sure its good too.

Thanks for the Horgen recommendation - will definitely give this a try very soon.

Ended up going to TAMARIND HILL in Oerlikon - yes, it is outside of the city - but one Uber and you are there - was it worth it - 4 of us thought so.
Food great. Staff were great AND they had a duet (?/band of 2?) playing & singing modern tunes. We loved it!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank sunshinefamily for this useful post:
  #590  
Old 14.04.2017, 20:50
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wollerau
Posts: 10
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
ESAUCH has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

The best Indian food I've found here is at Jays in Basel (http://www.jaysindianfood.com/) Not quite in Zurich but might be worth checking out one day if you are around there.
Reply With Quote
  #591  
Old 24.01.2018, 13:10
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: uzwil
Posts: 26
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
anishsha has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
We went to Khans above Zic Zaks in the old town last Friday and thought it was great, a bit on the hot side for the medium curries but very nice - I would highly recommend the Goan Fish Curry

There's also a great Indian just outside Oerlikon on the Tram 11 route, near Bad Allanmoos stop - i'll see if I can locate the name.

Nicky

Edit - this is the one in Oerlikon

Indian Restaurant Kerala
Hofwiesenstrasse 188
8057 Zürich/ZH
044 364 45 77
I am from State of kerala , India. and have been to "Kerala" restaurant in Zurich. Believe me the Kerala Fish curry tasted same like the authentic one
Reply With Quote
  #592  
Old 05.02.2018, 12:45
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: uzwil
Posts: 26
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
anishsha has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Friend's Corner in Kreis 4 has great food for reasonable prices, it's more Tamil than Indian but nevertheless really good curry dishes
Any such restaurant in St.Gallen, Winterthur or Wil?
Reply With Quote
  #593  
Old 05.02.2018, 14:08
grumpygrapefruit's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 6,451
Groaned at 38 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 17,897 Times in 4,570 Posts
grumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Friend's Corner in Kreis 4 has great food for reasonable prices, it's more Tamil than Indian but nevertheless really good curry dishes
It's actually in K5 but is closed now - there's scaffolding up all over the building and I'm not sure if they will open again. But opposite it there is another place (can't remember the name) it's more a Sri Lankan cafe. Tasty and cheap!
Reply With Quote
  #594  
Old 05.02.2018, 16:34
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 13,127
Groaned at 218 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 15,264 Times in 7,847 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Any such restaurant in St.Gallen, Winterthur or Wil?
Samosa, St. Gallen. A tiny place. When I was there for lunch a couple of months ago, they had a buffet. I enjoyed it.
Reply With Quote
  #595  
Old 05.02.2018, 16:42
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
Friend's Corner in Kreis 4 has great food for reasonable prices, it's more Tamil than Indian but nevertheless really good curry dishes
In what universe is Tamil not Indian?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #596  
Old 05.02.2018, 17:22
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 13,127
Groaned at 218 Times in 182 Posts
Thanked 15,264 Times in 7,847 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
In what universe is Tamil not Indian?
When the Tamile is Sri Lankan?
Reply With Quote
  #597  
Old 05.02.2018, 17:56
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 18,873
Groaned at 839 Times in 654 Posts
Thanked 29,216 Times in 11,816 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Quote:
View Post
When the Tamile is Sri Lankan?

The food is the same more or less.
Reply With Quote
  #598  
Old 06.02.2018, 21:41
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Zürich
Posts: 15
Groaned at 3 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Oliveswiss has no particular reputation at present
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Hi, There is a café in Zumikon which serves Indian home cooked food on every Fridays. It is close to Zumikon station in Dorfplatz or 10 min drive from stadelhofen. Very authentic home cooked Indian food. Very reasonably priced. It is called Fishvogel. They also do takeaway.


www.facebook.com/namastezumikon




Hope you can go and enjoy.


Thanks,
Reply With Quote
  #599  
Old 20.04.2018, 18:05
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 17
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
StephCol has made some interesting contributions
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Recently ordered a take away from Tamarind Hill in Oerlikon which was tasty & good quality although a bit pricey.
Reply With Quote
  #600  
Old 20.04.2018, 19:37
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,966
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Went their once. Its disgusting!
Quote:
In what universe is Tamil not Indian?
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where to borrow, buy and donate second-hand english books in Zurich Nanda Other/general 8 06.08.2021 14:55
Restaurant tips - general for Zurich Nanda Entertainment & dining 224 29.11.2020 02:33
Grand Rapids MI to Manchester to Zurich doglover Introductions 6 05.04.2007 09:18
Zurich Singles over thirty hike on July 9, 2006 Idgie Social events 15 10.02.2007 09:48


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:46.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0