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Maria7890 05.09.2014 13:46

Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Intense conversation at work today about hard boiled eggs.

Why are hard boiled eggs in the frig section of the supermarket?

Any thoughts?

k_and_e 05.09.2014 13:53

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria7890 (Post 2232274)
Intense conversation at work today about hard boiled eggs.

Why are hard boiled eggs in the frig section of the supermarket?

Any thoughts?

The only thing I can think of is that I might start looking for another job if I would have to listen to intense discussions about hard boiled eggs;)

Fridge 05.09.2014 13:56

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Here's a reasonable explanation.

Short version, American mass farming introduces a need for sanitation of eggs that damages the cuticle (outer chemical protective layer) of the egg, which allows easier permeation of bacteria to the inside of the egg as the shell is semi-permeable. EU has banned the practice, which supposedly forces better farming practice and leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion.

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Originally Posted by Maria7890 (Post 2232274)
in the frig ?

Are they? I've found them to be in the normal aisle with the raw eggs. But if they're in the fridge, then it's likely down to the cooking method removing the cuticle.

k_and_e 05.09.2014 14:02

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
The fridge has replied.

Now let's wait for these users
http://www.englishforum.ch/members/5527-chicken.html
http://www.englishforum.ch/members/17502-egg.html

And we have all we need:)

Maria7890 06.09.2014 10:52

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
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Originally Posted by Fridge (Post 2232283)
Here's a reasonable explanation.

Short version, American mass farming introduces a need for sanitation of eggs that damages the cuticle (outer chemical protective layer) of the egg, which allows easier permeation of bacteria to the inside of the egg as the shell is semi-permeable. EU has banned the practice, which supposedly forces better farming practice and leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion.


Are they? I've found them to be in the normal aisle with the raw eggs. But if they're in the fridge, then it's likely down to the cooking method removing the cuticle.

Should have said "aren't." Clearly I was to excited when I posted this. :msnshock:

Thanks for the replies, very interesting stuff.

ratbag 06.09.2014 11:09

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
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Originally Posted by Maria7890 (Post 2232274)

Any thoughts?


Not for 1 second.:confused:

st2lemans 06.09.2014 11:09

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
We never refrigerate cooked eggs in the US, just raw ones.

Tom

mirfield 06.09.2014 11:15

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fridge (Post 2232283)
leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion

Hard boiled eggs in the supermarket tend to be painted too, though I've no idea if that makes any difference.

ba co n 06.09.2014 11:29

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
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Originally Posted by mirfield (Post 2232664)
Hard boiled eggs in the supermarket tend to be painted too, though I've no idea if that makes any difference.


you can tell the difference between hard boiled eggs and raw ones because they are painted. swiss person told me hard boiled are always painted.

olygirl 06.09.2014 11:35

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
And here I thought it had to due to the :rolleyes: small fridges...

Bozza 06.09.2014 12:32

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

Or, the swiss way, create a job to paint the eggs! :msnnerd:

I am sure that there is at least one person on these forums who is now going to the fridge to test this...

princessduck 06.09.2014 13:09

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
I've seen at Coop and Migros hard boiled eggs (the painted ones) just on the aisle, not in the fridge.

Castro 06.09.2014 13:16

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozza (Post 2232686)
There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

The traditional way is to spin both, stop them and then immediately let go. The boiled egg will remain still but the raw one will continue to turn due to the inertia of its contents.

Tom1234 06.09.2014 13:17

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
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Originally Posted by princessduck (Post 2232694)
I've seen at Coop and Migros hard boiled eggs (the painted ones) just on the aisle, not in the fridge.

The coloured lacquer is the protective coating.

mirfield 06.09.2014 15:03

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozza (Post 2232686)
There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

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Originally Posted by Castro (Post 2232699)
The traditional way is to spin both, stop them and then immediately let go. The boiled egg will remain still but the raw one will continue to turn due to the inertia of its contents.

I used to prefer the "hit it on your sister's head" method.

bugger 08.09.2014 00:07

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozza (Post 2232686)
There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

Or, the swiss way, create a job to paint the eggs! :msnnerd:

I am sure that there is at least one person on these forums who is now going to the fridge to test this...

This is actually what I do to make sure my eggs are fully boiled before cracking them. Lay the egg horizontally on the table and give it a strong spin, if it was fully boiled, it would stand up vertically.

Wollishofener 08.09.2014 02:38

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2232661)
We never refrigerate cooked eggs in the US, just raw ones.

Tom


not just in the USA

TobiasM 08.09.2014 09:03

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Pickle them and they last for years, great with a bag of cheese and onion crisps and a pint of Guinness.

ratbag 08.09.2014 09:43

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
Probably the same reason that hard-boiled eggs don't need to refrigerated anywhere else.:D

Belgianmum 08.09.2014 09:46

Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland
 
I don't keep eggs in the fridge at all, hard boiled or otherwise.


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