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Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

Intense conversation at work today about hard boiled eggs.

Why are hard boiled eggs in the frig section of the supermarket?

Any thoughts?
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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Intense conversation at work today about hard boiled eggs.

Why are hard boiled eggs in the frig section of the supermarket?

Any thoughts?
The only thing I can think of is that I might start looking for another job if I would have to listen to intense discussions about hard boiled eggs
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

Here's a reasonable explanation.

Short version, American mass farming introduces a need for sanitation of eggs that damages the cuticle (outer chemical protective layer) of the egg, which allows easier permeation of bacteria to the inside of the egg as the shell is semi-permeable. EU has banned the practice, which supposedly forces better farming practice and leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion.

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in the frig ?
Are they? I've found them to be in the normal aisle with the raw eggs. But if they're in the fridge, then it's likely down to the cooking method removing the cuticle.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

The fridge has replied.

Now let's wait for these users
http://www.englishforum.ch/members/5527-chicken.html
http://www.englishforum.ch/members/17502-egg.html

And we have all we need
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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Here's a reasonable explanation.

Short version, American mass farming introduces a need for sanitation of eggs that damages the cuticle (outer chemical protective layer) of the egg, which allows easier permeation of bacteria to the inside of the egg as the shell is semi-permeable. EU has banned the practice, which supposedly forces better farming practice and leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion.


Are they? I've found them to be in the normal aisle with the raw eggs. But if they're in the fridge, then it's likely down to the cooking method removing the cuticle.
Should have said "aren't." Clearly I was to excited when I posted this.

Thanks for the replies, very interesting stuff.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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Any thoughts?

Not for 1 second.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

We never refrigerate cooked eggs in the US, just raw ones.

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leaves the cuticle intact, so the egg is much less vulnerable to bacterial invasion
Hard boiled eggs in the supermarket tend to be painted too, though I've no idea if that makes any difference.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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Hard boiled eggs in the supermarket tend to be painted too, though I've no idea if that makes any difference.

you can tell the difference between hard boiled eggs and raw ones because they are painted. swiss person told me hard boiled are always painted.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

And here I thought it had to due to the small fridges...
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

Or, the swiss way, create a job to paint the eggs!

I am sure that there is at least one person on these forums who is now going to the fridge to test this...
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

I've seen at Coop and Migros hard boiled eggs (the painted ones) just on the aisle, not in the fridge.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.
The traditional way is to spin both, stop them and then immediately let go. The boiled egg will remain still but the raw one will continue to turn due to the inertia of its contents.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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I've seen at Coop and Migros hard boiled eggs (the painted ones) just on the aisle, not in the fridge.
The coloured lacquer is the protective coating.
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There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.
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The traditional way is to spin both, stop them and then immediately let go. The boiled egg will remain still but the raw one will continue to turn due to the inertia of its contents.
I used to prefer the "hit it on your sister's head" method.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

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There is a simple way to tell if an egg has been hard boiled or not. You put it on a flat surface and spin it. The boiled egg will spin for a long time because it's solid, and the raw won't because there's liquid inside and one of the laws of physics will slow it down.

Or, the swiss way, create a job to paint the eggs!

I am sure that there is at least one person on these forums who is now going to the fridge to test this...
This is actually what I do to make sure my eggs are fully boiled before cracking them. Lay the egg horizontally on the table and give it a strong spin, if it was fully boiled, it would stand up vertically.
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We never refrigerate cooked eggs in the US, just raw ones.

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not just in the USA
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

Pickle them and they last for years, great with a bag of cheese and onion crisps and a pint of Guinness.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

Probably the same reason that hard-boiled eggs don't need to refrigerated anywhere else.
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Re: Why don't hard boiled eggs need to be refrigerated in Swizerland

I don't keep eggs in the fridge at all, hard boiled or otherwise.
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