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Taking the kids for fondue

Hi - first time posting, but have been lurking for awhile, ever since i knew we were moving here at the end of the summer. So please excuse any errors/breaches of protocol!

We have just moved to Zug (been here two weeks) from England and I would like to take the kids 5,4 and nearly 3) for fondu at lunch time; can anyone suggest a good local place?

BTW definitely going to make fondu at home, but just want to try it out on them first before acquiring the equipment etc.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

Probably not a good idea for young children, can't recall how old mine were when we started them on it.

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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

Is that right? Too messy ?
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

No, hot, and risk of mouth burning.

I've been eating/making it for 35 years (since I was at university), and still burn my mouth from time to time if I'm not careful, young children are much more fragile and much less careful.

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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

Which type of fondu? (there are 3 main ones).
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

Fondue au fromage (cheese fondue- and there are many versions)

Fondue chinoise : meat cooked in stock

Fondue Bourguignonne : meat cooked in oil

With Bourguignonne and chesse fondue- supervision is required as well as swapping to another fork than the one used in the pot.
Young kids rarely enjoy cheese fondue- I'd say from age 8 onwards. Also, much better to have fondue in a simple mountain inn after a bik walk, or ski, sledge, etc, in the snow. Never makes sense to me to see people eating a cheese fondue in a restaurant in central Zurich or Geneva (or Neuchâtel even!).
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Which type of fondu? (there are 3 main ones).
True, chinoise should not be a problem, but the other two certainly can be.

Sill, my kids were eating all three by the time they were 8 or so, but certainly not at 3.

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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

Our three year old and five year old children love it (food should be fun to eat) and have never burnt themselves.

It just needs a little bit of supervision.

Make sure there's not too much alcohol in there though which is probably more likely with a home-made one.
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BTW definitely going to make fondu at home, but just want to try it out on them first before acquiring the equipment etc.
Fondue restaurants I've been in have almost nothing else on their menu: raclette, a starter salad or two, that's it. Could be a problem, if your kids take one bite and decide they hate the stuff.

As an alternative, may I suggest the microwaveable single-serving pots they sell in Migros/Coop? Sure, it's not as good as the real thing (either restaurant or homemade) but a cheap and easy way to find out if you're onto a winner or not. No equipment to buy, worst case you're out 3-4 CHF per person rather than 30-40, and a replacement meal for the fondue-non-liker(s) is as close as the fridge.
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As an alternative, may I suggest the microwaveable single-serving pots they sell in Migros/Coop? Sure, it's not as good as the real thing (either restaurant or homemade)
But as good as most of the ready-made stuff.

Very good suggestion.

P.S. Raclette can also be done in the microwave.

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Nah- honest. If you are going to have all the calories of a fondue- have the best and do it properly. Same for racletter- we have one of those with the little dishes for 1 portion- but use it. Last night we had a raclette with friends- half a cheese of best and tatstiest Valais raclette cheese and the 'proper' machine for scraping. The end of the cheese will end up in a big tartiflette for friends next week-end.

Same with fondue- get the best mix of the best cheese from your cheese-mongers rather than super-market. It virtually takes minutes to prepare and is the easiest of dishes to do!

Where do you pay CHF40 for a fondue- yiiiiiikes! Verbier, Zermatt, Zurich and Geneva centre... perhaps, and even then.

All our local restaurants that serve fondue, raclette and 'croûte au fromage' also serve lots of other things too. All will agree to serve 2 or 3 children for 1 adult portion is you ask with a smile.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

I actually prefer making fondue at home, because any time I've had it in a restaurant here, it has that funky "chemical" taste which I've been told is due to the kirsch. We use white wine in ours, but never kirsch.
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I actually prefer making fondue at home, because any time I've had it in a restaurant here, it has that funky "chemical" taste which I've been told is due to the kirsch. We use white wine in ours, but never kirsch.
Then it's not proper fondue.

And good Kirsch doesn't taste 'chemical'.

The real question is: Zuger or Schwyzer?

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I actually prefer making fondue at home, because any time I've had it in a restaurant here, it has that funky "chemical" taste which I've been told is due to the kirsch. We use white wine in ours, but never kirsch.
I'd be questioning their pan washing techniques and products - certainly shouldn't be the kirsch.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

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Where do you pay CHF40 for a fondue- yiiiiiikes! Verbier, Zermatt, Zurich and Geneva centre... perhaps, and even then.

All our local restaurants that serve fondue, raclette and 'croûte au fromage' also serve lots of other things too. All will agree to serve 2 or 3 children for 1 adult portion is you ask with a smile.
That's great but the OP is in Zug, which means they are much more likely to pay Zug-and-Zürich prices than Jura prices.

Here's a fairly typical example - in case you thought I was making it up - why would I do that though? Base price 27.80, cornichons and pearl onions are extra, add drinks (even soft drinks) and as I said you're talking 30-40 a head. Also, anyone who sits down there and discovers he/she doesn't like melted cheese after all is pretty well out of luck. There is literally nothing else on the menu but fondue, raclette, and a couple of starters and desserts.
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Of course I didn't think you were making it up- just extremely surprised!

BTW onions and cornichons are not traditional with fondue, but with raclette- so here is another surprise.

As said, most restaurants will be happy to count 1 portion (200gr normally) for 2 or 3 kids.

Ah well, if anyone in the Neuchâtel-Yverdon-Lausanne-Bienne (sort of ... ) area wants to try excellent fondue with excellent cheese in a friendly atmosphere at cost, all equipment provided (our cheese monger lends the fondue pots and glasses when she sells the cheese)- you are welcome- Let's organise an event- 40 people max, children welcome. Even though I am a big stirrer- I'd need a few people to take it in turn to stir the pots (and never forget, always in a figure of 8 ).

Bring your own wine and will make big pots of tea (cold soft drinks not a good idea with fondue) for those who wish + kids.

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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

But it can be difficult to sit the child on the turntable

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P.S. Raclette can also be done in the microwave.
I've also done fondue using UK cheeses bought from grumpygrapefruit. The Isle of Mull cheddar works particularly well.
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