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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

Not getting in the middle of this one BUT...
my favorite website for finding recipes is www.foodgawker.com
It has a great search feature with keywords, exclusion criteria, as well as sorting by most viewed or most saved within the last week, month, so on.

It is a collection of food blogs that are only selected if their photos are of a certain quality and maybe a few other criteria as well.. but anyway, I have been using it for years and love it. There are many paleo, vegan, gluten-free recipes as well as regular, conventional diet recipes.


they also have an app but I find that browsing from a computer is my preferred method.
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How many times do I have to tell you that I am not doing it to lose weight?
Sorry, I assumed you also had in mind this aspect apart from eating more healthy (as most people who start this "diet" have)
If you're thinking to adopt it as a lifestyle it will be very difficult and with debatable health benefits IMHO. But good luck anyway, I'm all for whatever makes people healthier and happier!
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I think it really It depends on your current health status and goals. After researching most of the latest dietary advice I've settled for my Grandmas diet. Simple, real foods, cooked fresh, full of fat and all the stuff modern day marketing machines are warning us against. To help me keep it simple, I focus on a balance of PFC's (Protein, fats and carbs) Figure out what the right balance is for your body metabolism and enjoy fresh whole foods based on that personalized ratio. In my case I need to be higher on the P & F's and low on the C's. I try to be sensible and not listen to all the hype out there. Cutting down on carbs and sugar was a big adjustment for me but the results have been good so far. Most of my carbs now come from vegetables and fruits. I need to have sweet potato and a piece of dark chocolate every now and then but most other carb/sugar carvings are mostly gone now. If this is a Paleo diet so be it. More likely it's ketogenic for me but I wasn't focused on that as my goal. I just don't buy into the whole ancestral health fad concept.

Checkout the recent article in the Tages Anzeiger about the food debate. Sorry it's in German but the videos are in English and I must say Science Babe has a few good points . http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/ge...story/20473559
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What Swissish said. Because in the end, it's something to live on long term. Science babe is good- there is another one - food babe maybe or some other babe that is full of crap and woo.

I guess a lot of people calling themselves something babe are full of crap, but whatever.

I think grandma's diet was pretty good, she lived till 90 and granpa was 96. Except they kept kosher - no bacon but plenty of schmaltz.
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Don't forget to sing or hum "Angels" as you prepare your food!!
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Today I made a chestnut-almond-coconut-poppy seeds cake without sugar or flour and it's absolutely delicious. Even my family likes it and I believe I have solved the breakfast problem for a few days.
When I get up in the morning I can't eat a thing which means of course by 8 o'clock I am starving. I used to eat a chocolate bar or biscuits and replaced those by nuts and dried fruit, but wasn't too happy with it. Now I'll have some cake!
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I think it really It depends on your current health status and goals. After researching most of the latest dietary advice I've settled for my Grandmas diet. Simple, real foods, cooked fresh, full of fat and all the stuff modern day marketing machines are warning us against. To help me keep it simple, I focus on a balance of PFC's (Protein, fats and carbs) Figure out what the right balance is for your body metabolism and enjoy fresh whole foods based on that personalized ratio. In my case I need to be higher on the P & F's and low on the C's. I try to be sensible and not listen to all the hype out there. Cutting down on carbs and sugar was a big adjustment for me but the results have been good so far. Most of my carbs now come from vegetables and fruits. I need to have sweet potato and a piece of dark chocolate every now and then but most other carb/sugar carvings are mostly gone now. If this is a Paleo diet so be it. More likely it's ketogenic for me but I wasn't focused on that as my goal. I just don't buy into the whole ancestral health fad concept.

Checkout the recent article in the Tages Anzeiger about the food debate. Sorry it's in German but the videos are in English and I must say Science Babe has a few good points . http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/ge...story/20473559
Grandma's diet...suppose you're also ready for making jams and tons of preserves from fruits/vegs from your own garden?
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Grandma's diet...suppose you're also ready for making jams and tons of preserves from fruits/vegs from your own garden?
Not really, I focus more on making stocks for soups and sauces than preserves, batch cooking and freezing seems to works well for me. Plus I have quite a few farmers close by that need support so I don't bother growing my own veggies, they have plenty available. I might try growing some kale since the local farmers don't seem to grow that. A couple of the farms are designated bio, a nice bonus and I get delicious milk and eggs from them. I wish I had my Grandmothers mayonnaise recipe though, I've tried but never been able to duplicate the same flavor and texture I remember from her kitchen. I do look forward to picking a few figs off a tree before the birds get to them this coming summer.

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Today I made a chestnut-almond-coconut-poppy seeds cake without sugar or flour and it's absolutely delicious. Even my family likes it and I believe I have solved the breakfast problem for a few days.
When I get up in the morning I can't eat a thing which means of course by 8 o'clock I am starving. I used to eat a chocolate bar or biscuits and replaced those by nuts and dried fruit, but wasn't too happy with it. Now I'll have some cake!
Sounds delicious, share the recipe please...

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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

Making jams is awesome. Super heavy though, still like my own and mom's more than others if I can pick. Nearby farm is great for raw milk and eggs, I get vegetables and fruit there, too.

Not much to do with a fad Paleo diet, but my dentist (who has very healthy and very not straight teeth and who is mostly surfing in Oz than slaving in his office) gave me a wonderful lecture once on how bad our diet has become compared to thousands of years ago: now it's all mushy, zero resistance, which isn't conditioning our teeth/jaws/muscles enough. It's all overcooked, too processed, full of chemicals. He said people used to chew on sticks and now have teeth they don't even need much, just for smiling. I don't know how it adheres to Paleo, but what works for me mostly is raw. Veggies, fruits, cooked simple pulses, lot of fiber. I like to sink my teeth into raw, hard, resistant stuff. If cooked - than I am the happiest making from scratch and not from too many ingredients. And probiotic, fermented dairy. That's my happy food. I try to cut down on bread which is hard but doable (bananas and quark bring the same fuzzy happiness); meat - I cook lean and often for my kiddo, but I eat cca 1x week.

Home made mayo - 1 egg into blender and pour in sunflower or colza oil until it firms?
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Sounds delicious, share the recipe please...
Not 100 % paleo but like I said it is not a religion, so there is butter in the cake.

You need:
6 eggs
120 g butter
200 g coconut oil
100g poppy seeds
120g finely ground almonds
100ģ finely ground walnuts (or hazelnuts)
400g chestnut cream (unsweetened, bio store, 75% is as good as you get it)
100g honey

Seperate eggs and beat egg whites until firm.
beat egg yolks with honey until creamy, then add butter, coconut oil, nuts, poppies, chestnut cream in small portions until blended in. Finally add egg whites. Pour into 28 cm baking pan and bake for one hour at 170°, maybe a bit longer (try with a wooden toothpick), if it gets too dark, cover the top with a baking paper.

I found all the ingredients at Coop, except for the chestnut cream. It took me the longest time to find the coconut oil because I expected it to look like other oils, but it is white and not quite liquid. Chestnut cream found in local deli shop, should also be available at Alnatura (there is one in Zug)
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

How exactly is honey less bad for you than sugar?

I guess if you were overloading on Sugar Puffs and Pop Tarts before for breakfast then your cake is an improvement but otherwise you'll probably find some porridge and milk is a much healthier start to the day.

We eat cake almost the same as that - but made with sugar rather than honey as it's cheaper and does the same thing but, and here's the crunch - it's occasionally, for Birthdays etc and not for breakfast.

I've seen it all now.
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Honey is magic.
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How exactly is honey less bad for you than sugar?

I guess if you were overloading on Sugar Puffs and Pop Tarts before for breakfast then your cake is an improvement but otherwise you'll probably find some porridge and milk is a much healthier start to the day.

We eat cake almost the same as that - but made with sugar rather than honey as it's cheaper and does the same thing but, and here's the crunch - it's occasionally, for Birthdays etc and not for breakfast.

I've seen it all now.
What's it to you then?
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It looks like you want to have you cake and eat it
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How exactly is honey less bad for you than sugar?
Re your insulin response honey is exactly the same as sugar. However, honey is full of vitamins and mictronutrients, so if you are on paleo/keto the occasional time when you want / need high GI food honey is waaay better than sugar. In fact, sugar is sh!@t. Honey is gold, in moderation.
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What's it to you then?
It's a discussion forum.

If you just want people to agree with you and say your fad diet is wonderful then you ought to find a "WeAllLovePaleoTogether" forum.

The cereal Sugar Puffs is changing it's name to "Honey Monster Puffs". It's not a different product and neither is it any less unhealthy.

Call a cake a Paleo cake and it's still a cake.

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It's a discussion forum.

If you just want people to agree with you and say your fad diet is wonderful then you ought to find a "WeAllLovePaleoTogether" forum.

The cereal Sugar Puffs is changing it's name to "Honey Monster Puffs". It's not a different product and neither is it any less unhealthy.

Call a cake a Paleo cake and it's still a cake.

Put me on ignore and you'll never see my posts.
You might remember that inititially I asked who has done it or has any experience. So have you?

And I would like to get some recipes. Do you have any?

I am not trying to convince anyone that my way of living/eating is superior or better than any other. So why are you?

We eat cake every weekend, not only on special occasions. So what?

For a while I thought I had unvoluntarily offended you in any way to get nasty replies to all of my posts in this thread. But you know what? I found it has nothing to do with me.

It' s just you.
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You might remember that inititially I asked who has done it or has any experience. So have you?

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Yes. I ate rare lamb, broccoli and asparagus and potatoes* last night followed by a bowl of mixed berries.

That's got to be more Paleo than a lot of Paleo diets (apart from the potatoes)

*Why did I have potatoes - because I like them and I went for a two hour run before breakfast this morning so needed something to power me up the hills

I agree that most of us eat too much sugar in our diets. I do and have problems with low blood sugar causing me to shake and get dizzy. I'm trying different things out to try and solve this.

It's a good thread but I do find some of the notions a bit bizarre - there's no need to take it personally - it wasn't you that dreamt up the Paleo diet, was it?
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mayonnaise recipe though, I've tried but never been able to duplicate the same flavor and texture I remember from her kitchen.
I raw egg yolk plus one boiled egg yolk, a teaspoon of mustard and some oil (depending on your taste, it could be up to 250 ml or a jug/cup), added carefully little by little, mix with a wooden spoon in the same direction.
In the end add some salt and lemon juice.

It works for me, although I rarely use it. It's a "classic". Lately have been substituting this with a mousse made from yogurt, mustard, lemon juice and a lil' bit of salt.
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Re your insulin response honey is exactly the same as sugar. However, honey is full of vitamins and mictronutrients, so if you are on paleo/keto the occasional time when you want / need high GI food honey is waaay better than sugar. In fact, sugar is sh!@t. Honey is gold, in moderation.
Yes, this. Even simple Google search would come up with a bunch of benefits, I just remember vitamins, antibacterial properties and loads of immuno-stimulants. Not heat treated honey is the best, not sure how much gets killed by re-liquidizing and how much by cooking/baking. Still, honey over sugar any time.

Calorie-wise, of course, for people counting calories it is probably the same schtick as sugar, but OP does not seem to be on a weight loss wagon at all.

I understand Tom's irritation over diets, since it makes people believe that there is a magic formula while they might not be changing their life styles much and move more, are making just superficial, cosmetic changes and buying into some almost religious mindset when simple, common sense would suffice. Anything will suffice, tbh, when will power is there. But I like the fact OP wants something fresh, is willing to try something healthier, etc etc. Why not...Why discourage. We don't know what her priorities are nor how she lives, and why would she have to justify, anyways. Assumptions are silly.

OP, have your cake and eat it. Changes are more sustainable, when they come in small doses and when they do not encroach too extremely on our natural gravitation towards hedonism.

My grandma would say, have whatever for breakfast as long as it is in the morning. And I think she would not be entirely wrong, people long ways back just inhaled whatever they had the time for and spent the rest of the day digesting it, had no cash for excessive amounts of over processed sugar or lard or comfy cars, moved a lot. But not sure, they had other things to worry about, health wise, so - hard to tell. But I am a big fan of high cal and high protein breakfast, and then just coasting the rest of the day..very little amounts of light stuff, every 3 hrs, to keep the metabolism at a healthy, fast rate, while keeping good energy. But maybe I just like food and have no problem with small portions, so it is ok with me. There is no one diet plan, though, for all of us. I like the sound of Paleo, though, as in primal, back to basics kind of simple stuff. Pushes people understand food and metabolism more? It is great to understand it, not great to obsess over nutrition, though, too.
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