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Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

Call it midlife crisis, but after counting the empty pizza boxes and wine bottles in our recycling I have decided to change my lifestyke, especialIy my eating habits.

I know that Paleo has been around for a while, and after doing a lot of research I find that it is a diet that would suit me. After one week without alcohol, sugar and white flour products I can say that I have no craving for any of them. I would love to hear from others who do it and maybe get some yummy recipes.
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I thought the other factor to make it work was heavy work-outs?
How are you doing on that front?
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And surely, you didn't eat the pizzas all alone, were you?
What about the rest of your family?
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We have been eating seperately lately so yes, the pizza boxes were mostly from me. My hubby goes along with it, except for the wine, and he also does work out, so that's fine. My son is a meat lover, so he is fine,too. My daughter has been eating much more healthily than me anyway, only she is a vegetarian, so she just opts out on meat, whereas she eats dairy products on which I opt out now - it never gets boring.
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Call it midlife crisis, but after counting the empty pizza boxes and wine bottles in our recycling I have decided to change my lifestyke, especialIy my eating habits.

I know that Paleo has been around for a while, and after doing a lot of research I find that it is a diet that would suit me. After one week without alcohol, sugar and white flour products I can say that I have no craving for any of them. I would love to hear from others who do it and maybe get some yummy recipes.

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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I thought you were talking about the festival in Nyon!!

And i was going to say "I am so looking forward to seeing Robbie Williams"!!!

But i made a slight error, i put it down to the menopause - we can say and eat and do whatever we want. And we get away with it.
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I thought you were talking about the festival in Nyon!!

And i was going to say "I am so looking forward to seeing Robbie Williams"!!!
And Paleo Nutini?
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Call it midlife crisis, but after counting the empty pizza boxes and wine bottles in our recycling I have decided to change my lifestyke, especialIy my eating habits.

I know that Paleo has been around for a while, and after doing a lot of research I find that it is a diet that would suit me. After one week without alcohol, sugar and white flour products I can say that I have no craving for any of them. I would love to hear from others who do it and maybe get some yummy recipes.
Cum grano salis was the adage at the time of the crucifixion...
Ditching one thing doesn't mean you have to necessarily jump on some kind of loony bandwagon (if you've read any of those paleo-this-and-that stories you know what i mean).

My personal experience goes like this - rev your metabolism up by increasing the amount of physical exercise, eat unprocessed food and plenty of veggies, and turn around the ratio of carbs to protein; fat isn't bad di per se so avoid all those "light" prepared foods.
For any sugar addiction - start by ditching soft drinks, then candy bars, then by getting a taste for good black coffee (the consumption of which is usually beneficial to your exercise routine)

If all this is paleo, then I'm a reborn caveman (not)

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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I am trying paleo for past months and reduced 4 Kg. if you have doubt or wants to share any info most welcome.

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I thought you were talking about the festival in Nyon!!

And i was going to say "I am so looking forward to seeing Robbie Williams"!!!
I made the same assumption Patsycat! My daughter has been ecstatic since she learned that Robbie Williams will be appearing at Paleo; five of her friends will be accompanying her! I must confess she did ask me if I wanted to join them, but as she is aware I will only displace myself for Rodders Stewart, Elton John, Queen, and the one and only, inimitable Tony Bennett!
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

We watched a BBC programme the other day called 'Eat to live forever'. One of the diets he tried was the Paleo diet.
I have to say, as a vegetarian it's not for me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02lr435
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We watched a BBC programme the other day called 'Eat to live forever'. One of the diets he tried was the Paleo diet.
I have to say, as a vegetarian it's not for me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02lr435
I was turned off by the whole "paleo" label when it began to be used (in the USA) by the whole libertarian / right-to-carry / crossfit / hunting / fringenut scene

But as I said - I'm probably already "doing paleo" (sans the associated nuttery).. so much for labels.



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Cum grano salis was the adage at the time of the crucifixion...
Ditching one thing doesn't mean you have to necessarily jump on some kind of loony bandwagon (if you've read any of those paleo-this-and-that stories you know what i mean).

My personal experience goes like this - rev your metabolism up by increasing the amount of physical exercise, eat unprocessed food and plenty of veggies, and turn around the ratio of carbs to protein; fat isn't bad di per se so avoid all those "light" prepared foods.
For any sugar addiction - start by ditching soft drinks, then candy bars, then by getting a taste for good black coffee (the consumption of which is usually beneficial to your exercise routine)

If all this is paleo, then I'm a reborn caveman (not)

Cheers

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Exactly, nothing processed, everything fresh, and I have never been one to consume soft drinks, so I won't miss them. I had one piece of dark chocolate last night and that was more than enough. It' s amazing how fast I lost my craving for sweet sugary food.
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I did it 95% for a while and it really worked for me BUT - you need to be prepared to put in a lot of time for your meal prep, learn to plan and massively increase your food budget. Right now it's not possible for me to do it because I spend around 50 hours per week either at work or in class plus studying for said classes. This may be easy for some of the more driven, healthy people out there but what with my various health conditions, it's a very tough gig.

HOWEVER, I'm going to have to make time or something because I am constantly sick, growing fatter by the day and my skin is shocking. Currently on high dosage of prednisone because I got terrible bronchitis and cannot shake it. I think I made a long post somewhere about all the positive effects paleo (or whatever you want to call eating that way, I have to agree that there is a lot of silliness going on) had for me. If you search my posts, it should be more informative than this brief one.
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

IMO it'll work to the extent any other fad diet works - you lose weight because you track what you eat - not because of the actual composition of your diet. I've seen people get impressive results with paleo and CrossFit - burn more calories and control the calories that go in - who would have thought it?!
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

Interestingly I saw this today.
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2...-gatherer-guts
Indicating that people from industrialised may not be able to process the paleo diet as well as hunter-gathers.

I have no objections to the diet itself (beyond the normal objections I have to diets, ten years ago it was atkins, which worked to loose weight too, but was not healthy) but I do object to the 'scientific' part. Most of the hg communities studied in the original paper were excluded and so it is mostly taken from the arctic peoples.... Hence the little plant, and also, hg's do not tend to live as long as industrised peoples.

Watch what you eat, cut out highly processed foods, sure, but remember, if the first plants we domesticated were grains, we probably were gathering a lot of grains. Humans are very unlikely to domesticate something they never ate, we are quite lazy thinkers like that.
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IMO it'll work to the extent any other fad diet works - you lose weight because you track what you eat - not because of the actual composition of your diet. I've seen people get impressive results with paleo and CrossFit - burn more calories and control the calories that go in - who would have thought it?!
I think it works particularly well in countries where the normal diet is highly processed foods. Where fresh food is widely available (e.g. Switzerland), I'd imagine it wouldn't make a huge amount of difference.

According to an article in New Scientist (18th March, Red Lady cave burial reveals Stone Age secrets), the real paleo diet was about 80% hoofed animal (deer, ibex), the majority of the rest was fish, with a small amount of seeds and mushrooms.
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Interestingly I saw this today.
http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2...-gatherer-guts
Indicating that people from industrialised may not be able to process the paleo diet as well as hunter-gathers.

I have no objections to the diet itself (beyond the normal objections I have to diets, ten years ago it was atkins, which worked to loose weight too, but was not healthy) but I do object to the 'scientific' part. Most of the hg communities studied in the original paper were excluded and so it is mostly taken from the arctic peoples.... Hence the little plant, and also, hg's do not tend to live as long as industrised peoples.

Watch what you eat, cut out highly processed foods, sure, but remember, if the first plants we domesticated were grains, we probably were gathering a lot of grains. Humans are very unlikely to domesticate something they never ate, we are quite lazy thinkers like that.
Agree with you on the last part, it is the processed grains, as in white flour, that can't be healthy. And paleo does include a lot of veggies. By the way, I am not doing it to lose weight, just to live healthier than I have been recently.
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Re: Paleo - Anyone here doing it?

I started Dave Asprey's Bulletproof Diet a few weeks ago. It's similar to Paleo. My goal was to lose a few kilos. I used to be so addicted to sugar, wheat, chocolate etc. and was feeling tired all the time. I knew I had to change something. Yesterday, I decided to cheat a little and have a couple chocolate Easter eggs ( I've only had small amounts of 85% choco since I started). My taste buds have totally changed- those eggs did nothing for me- they tasted gross and I have no desire whatsoever to eat any more of them. I also have no desire to dring Coke anymore, or sweetened tea (practically the only thing I used to drink). I feel like I can actually taste "real" food now. Fruit and veggeis taste so sweet now.

If you go to Bulletproofexec.com, you'll find a link to Dave Asprey's podcasts. You'll find tons of info and interviews with experts from different fields.

I started working on my kids now, which is proving to be really difficult, but we're doing it one step at a time. I try out new Paleo recipes everyday. Not everything has been great, but we're slowly discovering the ones we like best (or tolerate best according to one of my girls).

I found quite a bit of info on swisspaleo.ch, some good recipes on civilizedcavemancooking.com (the banana-choco bread is yummy), paleogrubs.com (found good sandwhich bread that we make french toast with).
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... it is the processed grains, as in white flour, that can't be healthy...
Why not ? It might not be as healthy as freshly ground wholemeal flour, but that doesn't mean it's unhealthy. I seem to recall the nutritional difference is marginal. Nor do additives or chemicals used in processing, per se, imply that stuff is unhealthy.

If kidney beans aren't processed (i.e. cooked) they're poisonous. White sugar may be healthier than raw sugar, because raw sugar contains levels of insect parts and rat droppings way higher than refined white sugar. (White sugar is simply raw sugar that is washed in a centrifuge and dried).

What makes processed food comparatively unhealthy is that it often contains high levels of salt and sugar. "Processed" does not necessarily equal "unhealthy".
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I have been on something like paleo on steroids - keto. For me it has done miracles. I have always been active (running 2-3 times a week and gym 2-3 times a week for a total of 4 per week) and quite stable on the fat % and weight. Within 6 months of switching to ketosis i lost 10 kg, but its probably even more its just that i have also gained more muscle as i spend now more time in the gym than running (3 times in the gym and 1 run per week). First week or 10 days are tough, but now its not a "diet" for me, its a way to live and eat which i dont see changing in the foreseeable future. Indeed, planning, preparing and shopping for your food become quite more expensive and time consuming.

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Why not ? It might not be as healthy as freshly ground wholemeal flour, but that doesn't mean it's unhealthy. I seem to recall the nutritional difference is marginal.
Not entirely true. For your body there's very little difference between refined white flour and sugar. The insulin response (spike) is about the same. This is what makes white flour unhealthy. I think there was a Nestle slogan some time ago which has a certain grain of truth in it - there are no bad foods, there are bad diets. Having a slice or two of bread a day is OK, having a loaf of bread with additives and preservatives isnt.

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