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16.09.2015, 13:34
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | "The first thing a cult does is to claim everyone else is lying to you"
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16.09.2015, 13:56
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | "The first thing a cult does is to claim everyone else is lying to you" | | | | | You mean... we should trust those politicians after all?
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16.09.2015, 14:47
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | Sugar is sugar, whether it comes as white granules in a bag or in fruit or other foodstuffs. I never understood how "refined" sugar is such an evil; it's just purified sucrose. Eat a normal balanced diet and you really shouldn't have to worry about it. | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | Why? In what way do you think the processing damages the chemical constituents? | | | | | Refined cane sugar is simply raw cane sugar that has been washed and had foreign matter like rat droppings, insect parts etc. removed. Refined beet sugar is sugar extracted from sugar beet using mainly hot water, then crystallised. In neither case does the chemical constituency change at all. The end products are identical.
Reducing your sugar intake is a good idea. Reducing the amount of sweet things in your diet is a good idea. When you start talking about which sugars etc. you've wandering from the path of fact into la la land.
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16.09.2015, 16:25
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | You mean... we should trust those politicians after all? | | | | | Absolutely ...
However, I chose to trust my taste buds even more. They refuse morning coffee without any sugar. Every time, we are in liquor store they eyeball bottle of regular, non-diet, non-light coke. The gaze is fixed on bottle of Southern Comfort, whereas mind is plotting how to make SoCo. How sweet!
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16.09.2015, 22:01
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet
I always check the ingredients when I buy something. It is a habit, when I see sugar, no way!! But a healthy alternative is xylit. It is even good for your teeth. Google for it. You can buy it from healthy food stores. I use it as a mouth wash even! Has the same sweetness and less calories also!
And I always have a small piece of chocolate. A little spoiling yourself is never bad as long as it stays as "little"!
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16.09.2015, 22:30
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stlemans is polishing his groan button as we speak, | Quote: | |  | | | We need to eat otherwise we die.
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16.09.2015, 22:31
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I bought a bag of sugar yesterday. It had no ingredients label. Flipping useless. | Quote: | |  | | | I always check the ingredients when I buy something. It is a habit, when I see sugar, no way!! But a healthy alternative is xylit. It is even good for your teeth. Google for it. You can buy it from healthy food stores. I use it as a mouth wash even! Has the same sweetness and less calories also!
And I always have a small piece of chocolate. A little spoiling yourself is never bad as long as it stays as "little"! | | | | | | The following 5 users would like to thank nickatbasel for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | stlemans is polishing his groan button as we speak, | | | | | Oo-er, missus!
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16.09.2015, 22:35
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Might piss a few off, gonna go on a food rant, but i'm a seriously picky eater, so much i rately eat out and find it hard to trust others cooking
I don't get how cutting refined sugar out of your diet is a thing. You all so worried about what you eat but if you actually gave a shit you'd just prepare your own food. Instead everyone wants companies that sell food to make their foods not something you enjoy eating so much, and every month there'll be a new diet to isolate some but not all of your convenience foods. Nothing is your fault, it's just the man making too many tasty foods available.
Every food selling company wants you to eat more, their products are half fat so you can eat twice as much, they never want you to buy less for their heartfelt actions to help your diet.
There is no magic diet that will work for you and everyone, the commercial world wants to make you consume as much as possible, if its not food, it's literature on food, or fad foods.
You want a good figure, cook and get exercise. No one will sell you a miracle cure they can't keep billing you for.
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16.09.2015, 22:43
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | Might piss a few off, gonna go on a food rant, but i'm a seriously picky eater, so much i rately eat out and find it hard to trust others cooking
I don't get how cutting refined sugar out of your diet is a thing. You all so worried about what you eat but if you actually gave a shit you'd just prepare your own food. Instead everyone wants companies that sell food to make their foods not something you enjoy eating so much, and every month there'll be a new diet to isolate some but not all of your convenience foods. Nothing is your fault, it's just the man making too many tasty foods available.
Every food selling company wants you to eat more, their products are half fat so you can eat twice as much, they never want you to buy less for their heartfelt actions to help your diet.
There is no magic diet that will work for you and everyone, the commercial world wants to make you consume as much as possible, if its not food, it's literature on food, or fad foods.
You want a good figure, cook and get exercise. No one will sell you a miracle cure they can't keep billing you for. | | | | | Maybe this was directed at me, but just to clarify, I'm not interested in loosing weight, my interest in the article was in the fact that the blogger found out he is able to fell asleep very quickly at night and wake up fresh in the morning. This is something I would love to be able to do, but I have never experienced it. It's a real trouble waking up in the morning and when I go to bed no matter how tired I am my mind is going 200 km/h and it takes me long time to fell asleep. To me this feeling would be worth not eating sugar.
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16.09.2015, 22:48
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet
As another added factor that bugs me in pretty much of all our western world here, it's rude to turn down food. So when you don't feel like eating or my favourite worst, when you're too full, people get offended when you say you've had enough.
Learn to say no, eat regular healthy meals, ease up on desserts, stop snacks, most of your sugar gone.
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16.09.2015, 22:52
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe this was directed at me, but just to clarify, I'm not interested in loosing weight, my interest in the article was in the fact that the blogger found out he is able to fell asleep very quickly at night and wake up fresh in the morning. This is something I would love to be able to do, but I have never experienced it. It's a real trouble waking up in the morning and when I go to bed no matter how tired I am my mind is going 200 km/h and it takes me long time to fell asleep. To me this feeling would be worth not eating sugar. | | | | | It wasn't really, but reading that, many things affect sleep, i doubt too much sugar is the problem, caffeine would be more likely, lack of exercise, stress, refined sugar is gonna be way down that list.
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17.09.2015, 11:24
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet
Cheerios for breakfast, a bagel for lunch.
Pineapple and calamari for dinner, donut for dessert.
That's what I call a well-rounded diet.
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17.09.2015, 11:31
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | Cheerios for breakfast, a bagel for lunch.
Pineapple and calamari for dinner, donut for dessert.
That's what I call a well-rounded diet. | | | | | I'm really not sure whether you are being ironic or serious.
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17.09.2015, 12:00
| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | I'm really not sure whether you are being ironic or serious. | | | | | Would the addition of spaghetti hoops and polo mints have made it round enough for you to see through it? | The following 4 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
17.09.2015, 13:13
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: |  | | | Would the addition of spaghetti hoops and polo mints have made it round enough for you to see through it?  | | | | | I know of people who eat a lot worse than that.
There are people on this forum who can't stand vegetables, for instance, and have, I seem to recall, used the word 'evil' to describe them.
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17.09.2015, 13:40
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | I know of people who eat a lot worse than that.
There are people on this forum who can't stand vegetables, for instance, and have, I seem to recall, used the word 'evil' to describe them. | | | | | Hey, as long as they've been converted into meat, I'm fine with vegetables.
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18.09.2015, 08:01
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I cut out Tate and Lyle sugar, and only eat supermarket own brand. | Quote: | |  | | | Refined cane sugar is simply raw cane sugar that has been washed and had foreign matter like rat droppings, insect parts etc. removed. Refined beet sugar is sugar extracted from sugar beet using mainly hot water, then crystallised. In neither case does the chemical constituency change at all. The end products are identical.
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18.09.2015, 08:49
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I am a sugar addict but sleep really well
I know for sure i eat too much sweets/chocolate during the day.
Right now, my additional weight is around my middle (theres not much but when i carry it I carry it on my stomach), I exercise regularly but i believe if i cut out the sugar id lose that tummy fairly easily.
I want to lose the tummy but keep the sweets | 
18.09.2015, 09:25
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| | Re: Kicking out refined sugar from your diet | Quote: | |  | | | Might piss a few off, gonna go on a food rant, but i'm a seriously picky eater, so much i rately eat out and find it hard to trust others cooking
I don't get how cutting refined sugar out of your diet is a thing. You all so worried about what you eat but if you actually gave a shit you'd just prepare your own food. Instead everyone wants companies that sell food to make their foods not something you enjoy eating so much, and every month there'll be a new diet to isolate some but not all of your convenience foods. Nothing is your fault, it's just the man making too many tasty foods available.
Every food selling company wants you to eat more, their products are half fat so you can eat twice as much, they never want you to buy less for their heartfelt actions to help your diet.
There is no magic diet that will work for you and everyone, the commercial world wants to make you consume as much as possible, if its not food, it's literature on food, or fad foods.
You want a good figure, cook and get exercise. No one will sell you a miracle cure they can't keep billing you for. | | | | | So, know what you eat, basically. Which boils it down to eating raw, or, eating stuff you make. It's how I grew up, how I raise my kid and how I live. What's the joy in buying something some machine made, wrapped in plastic and sitting on a shelf or in a cooler for a while, scoffing it in a few minutes, believing that's what nurturing should be.
The down point of my life style - it does not provide enough ooomph for those who run around too much or have a lot on their plate, have fast metabolism or do not like big portions, nor constantly carrying some cheese and nuts around. Even spreading food every 3 hrs and keeping a steady rhythm does not work, energy wise.  But whatever, one is healthy, so who cares. Energy comes in loads of forms than just food.
I think - the best diet is to not focus on food, really, and get busy. Not pick some part of food and hate on it, blame all on it, instead of seeing uncontrolled intake and boredom.
I'd say it's not sugar's fault, the way we overcompensate. If you want something sweet, have it. Make it yourself, it tastes deserved, honoring one's palate and creative skills, and after all that labor one usually does not eat it all by oneself, sharing is good, too.
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