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The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

The first time I was placed in this saladdressing dilemma I was puzzled. What the heck is this Französische/Italienische Sauce. It appeared to be a dressing, the first one more creamy, like mayo, the other one oily with basilicum. Next day in Coop I saw these huge 1 litre bottles, two for the price of one. Few months later in a mountain restaurant in GraubÜnden the same question was asked. Then I realized it is a national phenomenon. Few weeks ago in Ticino the same bottles appeared.
Now I discovered 'Französische' Sauce has nothing to do with France, but everything with an American named French, who invented the dressing, hence the name French dressing, and wrongly translated as 'Französiche Sauce'.
Interesting, a country with unified saladdressings.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

It has also been a mystery to me. Didnt know about the "French" story.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

French 'dressing' in the US is nothing like the French dressing here.

In Switzerland , French dressing is as you say mayo based while the Italian one is balsamic vinegar and oil. Both with mystery spices.

There is nothing easier to make than salad dressing. Not sure why every restaurant in this country uses these bottled versions.

Al least I supp we should all be happy we now have two to choose from.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

"Here's your [dry] Caesar Salad. Would you like French or Italian dressing?"
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

Guess it's a bit like people saying French fries when in fact they were invented in Belgium.
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French 'dressing' in the US is nothing like the French dressing here.

In Switzerland , French dressing is as you say mayo based while the Italian one is balsamic vinegar and oil. Both with mystery spices.

There is nothing easier to make than salad dressing. Not sure why every restaurant in this country uses these bottled versions.

Al least I supp we should all be happy we now have two to choose from.
Hi miniMia,
Could you share your recipe for salad dressing... Would love see how different people make it..

Thanks
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

The best sauce for me is olive oil + a bit of balsamico or lemon juice (not too much - I hate those acid-soup with "Italienische Sauce", which is served in most of the restaurants here). Also it is always nice to add grated Parmesan to the salad.
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Hi miniMia,
Could you share your recipe for salad dressing... Would love see how different people make it..

Thanks
I don't really use a recipe.

I just grab stuff and mix to taste.

Can be any combination... The basics

Oil (olive, regular, sesame, etc)
Lemon, lime
Vinegar (cider, regular, balsamic, white balsamic is good, raspberry, shallot flavored, etc)
Mustard (I have about 7 kinds, with seeds, Dijon, honey, thyme... )
Mayo
Soy sauce
Worcester sause
Shallots, garlic (if you can stand it! )
Herbs, spices...
Honey, sugar (why not?)
Anchovies
Whatever!


I also crush some feta into the dressing on a tomato cucumber salad

And tomato, avocado, red onion, cilantro with lime, oil and salt.

Cesar dressing I use mayo instead of dealing with egg yolk, anchovies, Worcester, garlic, lemon juice and Dijon
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I don't really use a recipe.

I just grab stuff and mix to taste.
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And tomato, avocado, red onion, cilantro with lime, oil and salt.

+1 for healthy disregard of formula, +1 for experimental attitude, +1 for avocado, +1 for coriander (and -1 for calling it cilantro!). But my main question remains: which type of mustard do they use in the actual french dressing? I love it, and I've failed to pick the right kind since.. forever.
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+1 for healthy disregard of formula, +1 for experimental attitude, +1 for avocado, +1 for coriander (and -1 for calling it cilantro!). But my main question remains: which type of mustard do they use in the actual french dressing? I love it, and I've failed to pick the right kind since.. forever.
Should usually be Dijonnaise...

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+1 for healthy disregard of formula, +1 for experimental attitude, +1 for avocado, +1 for coriander (and -1 for calling it cilantro!). But my main question remains: which type of mustard do they use in the actual french dressing? I love it, and I've failed to pick the right kind since.. forever.
OMG. Did I call it coriander????

*faints*

As for the 'French' dressing in a bottle. I'm Not sure. I'd go with Dijon.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

Why not ask for German sauce next time?
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The first time I was placed in this saladdressing dilemma I was puzzled. What the heck is this Französische/Italienische Sauce. It appeared to be a dressing, the first one more creamy, like mayo, the other one oily with basilicum. Next day in Coop I saw these huge 1 litre bottles, two for the price of one. Few months later in a mountain restaurant in GraubÜnden the same question was asked. Then I realized it is a national phenomenon. Few weeks ago in Ticino the same bottles appeared.
Now I discovered 'Französische' Sauce has nothing to do with France, but everything with an American named French, who invented the dressing, hence the name French dressing, and wrongly translated as 'Französiche Sauce'.
Interesting, a country with unified saladdressings.
No I don't believe Frenchs American salad sauce is the origin of what the Swiss call Französiche sauce! Although you would have thought the Swiss being so close to France would have figured out by now that a French salad dressing is basically mustard, vinegar and oil.
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Now I discovered 'Französische' Sauce has nothing to do with France, but everything with an American named French, who invented the dressing, hence the name French dressing, and wrongly translated as 'Französiche Sauce'.
Where did you get that info from?

Proper french dressing is from, you know, France. That's why it's called French. It's basically an oil- and vinegar (or lemon juice)-based sauce, i.e. a vinaigrette...

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Oil (olive, regular, sesame, etc)
Lemon, lime
Vinegar (cider, regular, balsamic, white balsamic is good, raspberry, shallot flavored, etc)
Mustard (I have about 7 kinds, with seeds, Dijon, honey, thyme... )
Mayo
Soy sauce
Worcester sause
Shallots, garlic (if you can stand it! )
Herbs, spices...
Honey, sugar (why not?)
Anchovies
Whatever!


I also crush some feta into the dressing on a tomato cucumber salad

And tomato, avocado, red onion, cilantro with lime, oil and salt.
... yep, that one (well, with a few miniMia twists).
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OMG. Did I call it coriander????

*faints*
No, you didn't. You can unfaint, you're still American.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

http://info.sonntagszeitung.ch/archi...?newsid=239096

I got my info about the French dressing wrongly translated as Französisch in this article
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http://info.sonntagszeitung.ch/archi...?newsid=239096

I got my info about the French dressing wrongly translated as Französisch in this article
Hmmmm. Not saying I don't believe it, but I don't think it's true. I think the Americans simply corrupted the basic vinaigrette by adding tomato sauce (ketchup) and a whole load of other crap, because, y'know, more is always better, right?
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No, you didn't. You can unfaint, you're still American.
I was so shocked I couldn't read properly. The fact it was so early in the morning didn't help.

So glad: identity crisis averted.
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Re: The Französiche and Italienische Sauce : it puzzles me.

I sometimes add an egg yolk to my salad sauce.
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I sometimes add an egg yolk to my salad sauce.
Aka mayonnaise!

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