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Does anyone use this?

https://www.nettoshop.ch/Haushalt-Kl...058922#reviews

I always drink Coffee creme not espresso. Can I make a regular coffee with this?
Smaller cups yes but not big mugs. You can buy cafe creme ESE pods that fit in the machine which make coffee a bit milder than espresso (or you can grind your own beans to suit).



Whether the machine is any good though, I've no idea but you tend to get what you pay for.
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Smaller cups yes but not big mugs. You can buy cafe creme ESE pods that fit in the machine which make coffee a bit milder than espresso (or you can grind your own beans to suit).


Whether the machine is any good though, I've no idea but you tend to get what you pay for.
Thanks for the answer. The reviews are good and it is small. I am not a coffee buff but I know what I like which is a "cafe creme". I wanted to buy a Cimbali because I like the coffee that Tchibo and Manor makes with them but it is too expensive.
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

Another question: If I wanted to buy something that makes big mugs of coffee, should it be something like this? This has the added advantage of being bean to cup.



https://www.fust.ch/de/p/kuechengera...b-8128890.html
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

You can make big cups of coffee e.g. 300ml with these bean to cup machines, you just have to play with the settings e.g. if the max is 150 ml then just press the two cup button and it will dispense 2 x 150ml (maybe in two cycles depending on the strength). However its not as efficient as a drip coffee machine for that purpose, these are really for espresso based drinks and the odd long coffee, not endless mugs of americano style coffee.
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You can make big cups of coffee e.g. 300ml with these bean to cup machines, you just have to play with the settings e.g. if the max is 150 ml then just press the two cup button and it will dispense 2 x 150ml (maybe in two cycles depending on the strength). However its not as efficient as a drip coffee machine for that purpose, these are really for espresso based drinks and the odd long coffee, not endless mugs of americano style coffee.
150 ml is quite enough for me. Just not small shots of strong espresso.

Now that I read my question, indeed it sounds like I am looking for big mugs. I meant regular coffe cups, instead of small espresso cups.
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

[QUOTE=lost_inbroad;2695332]In my experience, there is only one device which makes decent coffee:



Oh good memories for me.
I've had one bought in Manor when I lived in GE. How much coffee it made me while I prepared myself to go to work!!
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Just a word of warning to anyone thinking this is a very good deal at 50% off. Almost everywhere else it sells for much less than the alleged original price:

https://www.fust.ch/de/p/kuechengera...utm_medium=cpc

The savings are still there but not as much as advertised.
My friend fixes Jura and Delonghi. He told me to buy this. This machine was 799chf and we kept an eye on it for several weeks. As soon as got on offer he rang me to buy it @ 399chf. As time goes by, prices go down as new models come in...
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

Finally took the plunge

La Marzocco Linea Mini

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Old 11.09.2017, 20:21
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Finally took the plunge

La Marzocco Linea Mini
That was quite a plunge.

I just had a look at that machine - it's rated for professional use and it comes with a hefty price tag.

Please post a review once you've got used to it.

I'd love something like that but you must be seriously committed to coffee!
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Another question: If I wanted to buy something that makes big mugs of coffee, should it be something like this? This has the added advantage of being bean to cup.
I have DeLonghi, not the same model but I can tell the type of coffee you'll get - if you want a long coffee, kind of "Americano" or filtered coffee, it's not the thing to buy. If you prefer cream coffee type of thing, it's good. You can adjust the quantity and also how strong you want your coffee. Easy to clean, very practical.
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Old 12.09.2017, 08:49
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That was quite a plunge.

I just had a look at that machine - it's rated for professional use and it comes with a hefty price tag.

Please post a review once you've got used to it.

I'd love something like that but you must be seriously committed to coffee!
It's a love many years in the making. The Linea mini is actually a home machine based off the famous Linea line of professional machines from the Italian company synonymous with the finest brewed espressos.

I will happily post a review once I am up & running with some measure of how to extract the best results. I vacillated between this more expensive machine and the Rocket R60V which is considerably cheaper but opted for the former due to ease & consistency of use + its La Marzocco

The inlaws have a nice DeLonghi, our good friends have a high end Jura and we have gone through a few machines and realize even with Nespresso we spend around 800-1000 CHF annually on capsules. It's a big up front investment but the truth is once you sample the results, it's really difficult to go back to automatic or capsule espresso
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Finally took the plunge

La Marzocco Linea Mini
I checked the prices...wow.
I love coffee but am not psychologically prepaired to pay that amount.

Anyways, enjoy it. You really should.
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What's wrong with me if I like coffee by nespresso? Is it bad coffee?

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What's wrong with me if I like coffee by nespresso? Is it bad coffee?
Nothing wrong with you or anyone else who does, I have for a time as well...and I assure you that if they were serving it regularly on flights instead of drip coffee I would there too. However, just like with anything, everyone's palate/taste is a bit different


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I checked the prices...wow.
I love coffee but am not psychologically prepaired to pay that amount.

Anyways, enjoy it. You really should.
Let's put it this way, neither me nor my wife was either...for years. But I was economizing, setting things aside to splurge on one extravagant purchase. I have rationalized the extravagance in my heart but my head is still a bit in disbelief
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Let's put it this way, neither me nor my wife was either...for years. But I was economizing, setting things aside to splurge on one extravagant purchase. I have rationalized the extravagance in my heart but my head is still a bit in disbelief
So we're on the same page... Don't get me wrong, deep down I admire decisions like that. I think it's a lovely investment, really.
If I sum up all the money we put into various kitchen utensils and things we use a few times a year and we could defo manage without () this doesn't look so much of an extravagance after all.
Enjoy!
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

Well, I bought a Saeco Incanto Deluxe with touchscreen control about 11 years ago. It was great, but not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.



The limitations I found are:

You have to make the frothed milk yourself using the long nozzle on the right and turning the control knob on the right (when facing the machine), and frankly it has always seemed a bit more complicated than it should be. It works, but I generally drink my coffee black in any case, so I haven't ever mastered the differences between a latte and a cappuccino or a macchiatto etc.

The decalc procedure takes far too long and requires constant supervision. I am guessing it probably takes 45 minutes to de-calcify the machine, and you have to be there during the process to empty containers of hot water as it goes through the process.

After about 9 years, and countless cups of coffee, the grinder started acting up - I'm not sure if it is a sensor issue, or whether the grinder itself has become too coated in oils from the coffee beans to properly grip new ones for grinding, but it starts all the business-like noises of grinding beans, but then stops after a few seconds because the sensor thinks the bean container is empty. Service center doesn't seem to be able to fix it, other than to say try grinding really dry, cheap beans... : sigh :

The grinder not working isn't the end of the road though, as there is an option to use pre-ground coffee - so that's how I've been using it for maybe 2 years now.

Latest problem is that the amount of coffee coming out seems fairly random and never quite a full cup. No idea what is causing this - I assume it is a clogged line somewhere, but so far haven't figured out a way to fix it.

Plus side - it does all the things you are looking to do, and I can't complain about the life of the machine - it has made 10's of thousands of cups of brilliant Café crème. Which is exactly what I bought it for.

That being said, in the office, we have a Jura that makes equally good coffee and comes with the thermos attachment for automatic frothing of milk, and lattes, cappuccinos etc. We've had that maybe 7 years and so far absolutely no problems have cropped up whatsoever.



The most important thing I've found though was the coffee beans. Choose a good bean that you like and you'll be happy with most automatic machines.

For me, this is my go to choice:




I really like that one, but they also make an ekological fair trade one called Biologica that is also really good.

Good luck - I'd be interested to see what you finally go with as I'm afraid my Saeco is going to be decomissioned soon, and I'm leaning towards a Jura... but the price tag on the Jura is kind of outrageous...
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

My current machine is a Rocket Giotto. It's a beautiful machine, solid and wonderful to use. It has a PID controller, so that you can change the water temperature.



I have a Mahlkönig Vario grinder, which is also very good.



I have some extras for coffee porn, like the crotchless porta-filter



So that you can enjoy this kind of filth



I also use a Joe Frex tamper. You can adjust the tamp pressure. It clicks down when you've reached your set pressure. Handy and teaches one to develop a good feeling for tamping pressure.



Everyone who steams their own milk should of course have one of these.



I get most of my beans from Rast, Schwarzenback and Da Kaffimää in Cham, Zug.

Right now he has a wonderful selection and I have some Mexican and Rwandan beans that will gave Hawaiian Kona a spanking.

Enjoy the coffee!
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Oh that filth, can never get enough

Do you use a scale?
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Oh that filth, can never get enough

Do you use a scale?
No, that's going too far. I'm good with cullinary things and like to go by feel. Anyway, scales won't really work as beans get older they lose oils, get lighter etc. No beans are the same, 7 grams of one bean is not the same as 7 grams of another.

Also, take note of your grind and amount when the weather changes. as it gets hot and humid or cold and dry you will need to calibrate your grind/amount differently.

I use however many beans I need, I never fill the hopper (I only drink 2 coffees a day). I keep the rest in a cool dark place, sealed. DO NOT keep beans in the fridge or freezer.
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I have some Mexican and Rwandan beans that will gave Hawaiian Kona a spanking.
My kitchen isn't big enough to hold all that and what a nightmare to keep it all clean! But if it makes you happy, by all means enjoy.

TBH I was not a fan of Kona coffee and I'm not sure why it's such a big deal. I prefer Ethiopian or Kenyan when I can get it without emptying the bank account.
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