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Old 01.10.2017, 17:25
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Another question: If I wanted to buy something that makes big mugs of coffee, should it be something like this? This has the added advantage of being bean to cup...
An Aeropress is cheap, portable and a great way to experiment with new beans. I'm not a fan of plastic SUV type coffee all-in-ones. Learn the basics with an Aeropress before investing in a machine, IMO. The Geek factor goes off the scale with coffee and accessories.

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What's wrong with me if I like coffee by nespresso? Is it bad coffee?
There's nothing wrong with you; you like the convenience of the capsules I guess, but it's expensive and inferior. If cheaper, fresher and better coffee is out there, it becomes a consumer choice where you spend your Dollaryroos.

It's all about the beans.
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Old 22.10.2017, 09:44
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That was quite a plunge.

I just had a look at that machine - it's rated for professional use and it comes with a hefty price tag.

Please post a review once you've got used to it.

I'd love something like that but you must be seriously committed to coffee!
So it's been a few weeks now, as others will attest machines like this won't make you an instant barista but once you get all the variables just right you can be certain of a consistent result, over & over

I struggled early getting the amount of espresso, grind and end result just right but I'm quite close now to the perfect result I have sought with lovely crema. I did end up getting a scale as I needed some sort of baseline to work off of as I felt I would take one step forward, then two back but now I don't even use the scale

The good with this machine is that it only needs about 15 minutes to warm up and be ready to deliver. Clean up is minimal. Only thing left really now is to set my doser for single & double shots as I have only been doing it manually until I found the right amount. The steaming wand is quite impressive eventhough I didn't expect to have a great need for this - now I use it regularly. It's definitely a professional machine as my wife will attest to (She was once a barista back in the day)

As for beans, I look forward to discovering some great varieties but
I did come across some terrific beans in Basel recently from a great little cafe in Markthalle called Finkmueller as well as a Brasilian roast from Bocca in Amsterdam
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As for beans, I look forward to discovering some great varieties but
I did come across some terrific beans in Basel recently from a great little cafe in Markthalle called Finkmueller as well as a Brasilian roast from Bocca in Amsterdam
Do post here when you find them, pretty please. And thanks for the feedback on that clever coffee machine!
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Old 13.11.2017, 15:50
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

So, I'm back on the subject again too. Since I quit the milk in my morning coffee (the things one is able to do ) I don't like my nespresso coffee anymore (and I got a strong one!).

I want to get this. But it's made from aluminium (not my preferred stainless steel). Does that matter? Lib wrote it's bullet proof, I don't think aluminium is but as I live in a rather safe area that is not important.

Question to the oldies: The simple, old fashion Bialetti we used to have: Was ist made from aluminium?

Tom? Tell me all about it
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Old 13.11.2017, 15:58
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So, I'm back on the subject again too. Since I quit the milk in my morning coffee (the things one is able to do ) I don't like my nespresso coffee anymore (and I got a strong one!).

I want to get this. But it's made from aluminium (not my preferred stainless steel). Does that matter? Lib wrote it's bullet proof, I don't think aluminium is but as I live in a rather safe area that is not important.

Question to the oldies: The simple, old fashion Bialetti we used to have: Was ist made from aluminium?

Tom? Tell me all about it
The Bialetti Moka is an Italian institution, it's as classic as it gets. You're going for the fancypants version, which is all fine.

Aluminum is OK, just don't ever wash it in the dishwasher, or with soap, in fact, don't ever wash it :-)

It must build up a coffee oil patina over time. If you do wash it just use water and a sponge.
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Old 13.11.2017, 22:01
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The Bialetti Moka is an Italian institution, it's as classic as it gets. You're going for the fancypants version, which is all fine.

Aluminum is OK, just don't ever wash it in the dishwasher, or with soap, in fact, don't ever wash it :-)

It must build up a coffee oil patina over time. If you do wash it just use water and a sponge.
Thanks. Yes I know I'm going for the fancypnats version of a classic. It's often the perfect version.

What I was wondering was whether the classic one was made from aluminium too?
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What I was wondering was whether the classic one was made from aluminium too?
Yes, the classic Bialetti was made from aluminium. You are buying the same Moka with an electric plate and a timer
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

I've had my Silvia (Rancilio) for a couple of years now and still going strong.

More amateur than the pro and with a cheaper price.

Great for coffees - however, while it froths milk well, it takes time as it doesn't have a separate boiler and no PID (although you can buy kits to do this). This means that you have to do one then the other.

I am hoping Santa will bring me a crotchless portafilter and/or a portafilter with a pressure gauge so I can (re)calibrate the pressure.

I do use a scale to get the right amount in the portafilter, but I really I could do with a better grinder - I use a Dualit (in photo), but I'd like to get a "profi" one.
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Old 13.11.2017, 23:01
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The simple, old fashion Bialetti we used to have: Was ist made from aluminium?
Yes, and it still is.

But this is better:

https://www.espressokamira.com/features.html

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Old 13.11.2017, 23:07
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Yes, the classic Bialetti was made from aluminium. You are buying the same Moka with an electric plate and a timer
Thank you very much.

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Yes, and it still is.

But this is better:

https://www.espressokamira.com/features.html

Tom
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So, you nice people, there are follow-up questions of course:
  • I will grind the coffee myself. Do I grind it as fine as possible? Or what's the level I start experimenting?
  • I want a strong, tasty but not bitter coffee. Easily available (either Migros, Coop or internet). Suggestions?
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  • I will grind the coffee myself. Do I grind it as fine as possible? Or what's the level I start experimenting?
Start with a medium grinding, "fine" is for espresso machines, with a Moka too much and/or too fine powder means too high temperature and bitter/burnt taste.
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Old 14.11.2017, 11:53
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...Aluminum is OK, just don't ever wash it in the dishwasher, or with soap, in fact, don't ever wash it :-)

It must build up a coffee oil patina over time. If you do wash it just use water and a sponge.
I'd certainly wash it each time; don't like bitter oil residue in my next coffee.

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  • I will grind the coffee myself. Do I grind it as fine as possible? Or what's the level I start experimenting?
  • I want a strong, tasty but not bitter coffee. Easily available (either Migros, Coop or internet). Suggestions?
Coffee nerd alert: rule one is relax.
On a stove top I'd grind it almost as fine as for espresso but it'll make little difference if you use stale, over roasted beans. Beans are your path to excellent coffee, kit comes second.

Ask your salesperson for advice as each bean sort requires a different attitude and purpose - why cafs often only have one or two varieties of bean, as the dialling in of different beans is a faff.

Below some links to excellent stores in Zurich who'll gladly lend advice, serve outstanding coffee and can deliver. Go on a tour one morning and see what's out there. You'll not return to supermarket stuff. Also, you may balk at the price of 250g of top class coffee until you work out what you were spending on capsules.

MaMe - Josefstrasse
Kaffee Pur - Zentralstrasse
Cafe Noir - Neugasse

Take two weeks vacation and look at Home Barista to answer most of your questions.
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Old 15.11.2017, 00:02
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Thanks for the addresses. A friend just told me this evening about a specialized shop for coffee in my town too. I guess it's worth checking it out.
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Im with you on this, Curley. This is what we use for making coffee. We had to switch from aluminum to stainless steel when we equipped our kitchen with an induction hob.

Were happy with the results. I also have a milk frother and can whip up a fancy (to me) latte macchiato.

I know nothing about coffee beans. I had been gifted these special beans that had been pooped out by wild cats and couldnt fit them in my suitcase so didnt bother to bring them home.
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We've got one of these. It's not fully automatic but just as fast as an automatic.

You can program the amount of beans that get ground for each cup and the amount of water that goes into both a single and double coffee.

The hopper lifts out if you want to change the beans for another sort.

And it's stainless steel and not plastic.

We got ours in Germany (Gastroback) but they're re-badged as a 'Swiss' product by Solis here. It's actually an Australian design where they have a great coffee culture.

Hah! Thats the breville we brought over from Australia. Splendid machine- if anyone is in Zug and environs, happy to make them a cup of coffee to test it.
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Old 16.11.2017, 18:15
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

My Bialetti arrived yesterday. Today I visited this coffee roaster in town - stayed for about an hour, was great fun - he even gave some cheap shit for the first few rounds as apparently a Bialetti needs to be "broken in", meaning the first one or two batches be thrown out.
Tomorrow my coffee grinder arrives - a ceramic grinder - did you know that a "Schlagmahlwerk" (sorry, did not find an English translation for that) is outdated and bad for the coffee as it warms it while grinding and makes it bitter?

Then my latest project comes to an end.
Let's see if the big fuss will be worth it. And how long it takes until I have the urge to just return to pushing the button again. Which is - I guess - when I'll be back on this thread
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Old 17.11.2017, 20:00
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

Well, I'm still on Nespresso

My fancy pants Bialetti does not work.

I'm gonna skip the details of the trial
The water doesn't come up - no it's not the coffee grinding level as it doesn't come up without coffee either Instead the heating-station it is on starts - after maybe a minute max. - blinking red and the alarm is ..... a killer sound!
The valve in the lower bit does not leak.
The seals seem fine.
The bits don't wiggle - at least only a really tiny bit, not worth mentioning.

Never had to return anything to Galaxus, I just wrote them an email, wondering how the reaction will be.

I am at my wit's end. When I did try it with coffee, the powder did get wet. So the problem must be either between the coffee container and the upper part or the electric station (but why does the latter start the alarm? It should just keep heating or stop heating). I took it apart and put it back together - did not help either.
So I bought what I consider the simplest "machine" there is and - it does not work.
I'm beginning to believe I'll have to return it - gosh how I hate all that hassle that comes with it.
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Old 17.11.2017, 21:04
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Hah! Thats the breville we brought over from Australia. Splendid machine- if anyone is in Zug and environs, happy to make them a cup of coffee to test it.
It's designed in Australia (where the coffee is superb - as I'm sure you know), but sold here badged as a 'Swiss' Solis machine.

Mine's been out of operation for a couple of days - the three-way valve needed replacing. It was a twenty minute job tonight with a 20 euro valve (original Olab part) via ebay from Germany.
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Old 17.11.2017, 21:26
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

So sorry your coffee maker isnt working, Curley. Do you use the right amount of water? I have the water level just reach the valve.
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Old 17.11.2017, 22:24
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So sorry your coffee maker isnt working, Curley. Do you use the right amount of water? I have the water level just reach the valve.
Thanks. Yes I have. I've tried everything and then some. I'm afraid it's the device.
I'll see what Galalxus will have to say. The automatic reply said to please be patient 2-3 work-days.
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