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Can you take out the flat sieve in your Bialetti and hold it against the light? Are the holes clogged? When you remove the sieve can you let water run through the pot? Any blockage there?
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Old 19.11.2017, 17:32
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Can you take out the flat sieve in your Bialetti and hold it against the light? Are the holes clogged? When you remove the sieve can you let water run through the pot? Any blockage there?
Sorry for slow reaction I was away for the week-end.

Both sieves have no clogged holes.

If I put the lower sieve on and pure water in, the water goes down. Quickly.

If I take the flat sieve out and run the machine, the alarm starts.
If I take the lower sieve out (where you would put the coffee), the alarm starts.
If I leave both sieves in but run it without coffee, the alarm starts.
If I run it with coffee, the alarm starts - but that was already mentioned.

In all cases not a drop of water ever rises into the upper pot.

Do I start playing with the valve now? (That might result in not being to returning the machine though )
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Old 19.11.2017, 17:44
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...Do I start playing with the valve now? (That might result in not being to returning the machine though )
Nope, you press that nice little Nespresso button and enjoy a cuppa while contemplating your next move with the fancy contraption.
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Nope, you press that nice little Nespresso button and enjoy a cuppa while contemplating your next move with the fancy contraption.
Like which window to throw it out of and whether or not to actually open the window before I throw it?
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Like which window to throw it out of and whether or not to actually open the window before I throw it?
Pretty much. I find when something has me frustrated to the point of throwing it out the window, it's best to take a step back and breathe and maybe look at it another day.

Honestly, based on what you've described so far I think you've just been unlucky and gotten a lemon.

If you think you're chummy enough with the guy at the local coffee shop, maybe you can take it to him and ask him to have a look before you send it back? Maybe buy some beans from him in return?

Good luck. When I don't have my coffee I am not a nice person to deal with.
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Old 22.11.2017, 15:41
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Well, my Bialetti problem is solved. By exchanging it for a de'Longhi . Love it, coffee is great and hot like hell, not like the one from the Nespresso machine was.
I linked to Galaxy, you can get it slightly cheaper somewhere else but I feel I owe them a favour

The how I described in the thread about Galaxus customer support.
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Do post here when you find them, pretty please. And thanks for the feedback on that clever coffee machine!
Caffe Ferrari in Dietikon has some terrific beans for espresso, the Napoli roast in particular is excellent
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Well, my Bialetti problem is solved. By exchanging it for a de'Longhi . Love it, coffee is great and hot like hell, not like the one from the Nespresso machine was.
I linked to Galaxy, you can get it slightly cheaper somewhere else but I feel I owe them a favour

The how I described in the thread about Galaxus customer support.
Curley do you still love this machine, any problems with it?

I am looking for a coffee machine for me to have the occasional good cup in a morning, but mainly for guests who always politely point out that I do not have the means to produce a good cup of coffee for them at home.

I am torn between the cheap Bosch Tassimo Vivy 2 (TV2) (35chf) with its simple fully automatic T-discs and the more expensive Delonghi Dedica style 685 (D685) (170chf) that is more manual but can take the vastly cheap coffee pads.

The TV2 seems ridicuously simple to use, the only problem being you can't get a lot of the best flavours (like Costa Americano) in CH. The D685 seems cheaper in the long run and much more environmentally friendly, but from user reviews it is a little finicky to use and I am wondering if the coffee flavour from pads is as good as the T-discs (or Dolce Gusto stuff). Of course, with the D685 I can also use ground coffee if I want to make that effort.

I have never struggled over any electronics choice like I have over flipping coffee machines during the past couple of weeks.
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Old 31.07.2018, 14:18
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Curley do you still love this machine, any problems with it?

I am looking for a coffee machine for me to have the occasional good cup in a morning, but mainly for guests who always politely point out that I do not have the means to produce a good cup of coffee for them at home.

I am torn between the cheap Bosch Tassimo Vivy 2 (TV2) (35chf) with its simple fully automatic T-discs and the more expensive Delonghi Dedica style 685 (D685) (170chf) that is more manual but can take the vastly cheap coffee pads.

The TV2 seems ridicuously simple to use, the only problem being you can't get a lot of the best flavours (like Costa Americano) in CH. The D685 seems cheaper in the long run and much more environmentally friendly, but from user reviews it is a little finicky to use and I am wondering if the coffee flavour from pads is as good as the T-discs (or Dolce Gusto stuff). Of course, with the D685 I can also use ground coffee if I want to make that effort.

I have never struggled over any electronics choice like I have over flipping coffee machines during the past couple of weeks.
Ahh, yeah! It's great - except I don't like the neighbours coffee anymore. LOL.
But I don't use pads or what ever. I get my coffee from a roast house we got here. No need to travel to Winterthur from Zurich, you got your own. I spent quite some hours with the guy there actually until I found my perfect mix. Was good fun. Now I pay Fr. 20.00/kg, which I really don't find expensive.

If you want the real thing, you don't go for pads or capsules. Imo.
I grind my beans freshly for every cup but that's not really necessary. They grind them for you in those roasteries, if you ask them to.

I know about struggling (I do it with the pressure cooker now, as if it were the most important decision I ever have to take, ROFL).
As for coffee: My device takes little room, it is easy to handle/clean, I can make 30 coffees freshly with no effort at all (and guests feel relaxed to ask for an other one too ) or none at all for days, quality is always the same. And the quality beats many restaurants.
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Well, in the end I got a Bosch Tassimo Vivy 2 for a crazy low price of 35chf (including postage)... https://www.conforama.ch/produit_viv..._42057_1090561

Im sure the Delonghi is better, but not sure it is 5x better and that saving will buy me a lot of drinks.
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Well, in the end I got a Bosch Tassimo Vivy 2 for a crazy low price of 35chf (including postage)... https://www.conforama.ch/produit_viv..._42057_1090561

Im sure the Delonghi is better, but not sure it is 5x better and that saving will buy me a lot of drinks.
You can't compare the two. It's this apple/oranges thing.
The capsule system of yours will up the price over the years - if the machine lasts years but it probably will, it's Bosch after all. I didn't see what capsules it takes - whom will you be dependent on?

Anyway, we had different demands. Do you have it at home yet? Are you pleased with the coffee? If this one does the trick for you it's a good buy.
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Just my 5 cents, stay away from the Nesspresso ones... They just simply charge too much for what they truly are
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You can't compare the two. It's this apple/oranges thing.
The capsule system of yours will up the price over the years - if the machine lasts years but it probably will, it's Bosch after all. I didn't see what capsules it takes - whom will you be dependent on?

Anyway, we had different demands. Do you have it at home yet? Are you pleased with the coffee? If this one does the trick for you it's a good buy.
Well you can compare them, but I am of course well aware that they are in different classes. I bought a bulk set of Costa Coffee T-discs which have excellent reviews and work out at 44 rappen per coffee. I am not a demanding or heavy coffee drinker and guests should be happy with them so that is fine for me.
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Re: Coffee Machine recommendation ?

Ok, in a moment of clarity I am returning my Vivo 2 and have just ordered a Delonghi Dedica Style 685 which is now on offer from Microspot for 172.75chf in the silver version, which is the cheapest I have seen https://www.microspot.ch/de/Haushalt...m--P0001401460

The numerous videos on Youtube from Delonghi UK and Tom Booth have persuaded me that the extra faff is worth it for the taste and quality, not to mention being able to keep my coffee-drinking guests happy.



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Ok, in a moment of clarity I am returning my Vivo 2 and have just ordered a Delonghi Dedica Style 685 which is now on offer from Microspot for 172.75chf in the silver version, which is the cheapest I have seen https://www.microspot.ch/de/Haushalt...m--P0001401460
Have you got a grinder or are you going to use pods?
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Have you got a grinder or are you going to use pods?
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Ok, in a moment of clarity I am returning my Vivo 2 and have just ordered a Delonghi Dedica Style 685 which is now on offer from Microspot for 172.75chf in the silver version, which is the cheapest I have seen https://www.microspot.ch/de/Haushalt...m--P0001401460

The numerous videos on Youtube from Delonghi UK and Tom Booth have persuaded me that the extra faff is worth it for the taste and quality, not to mention being able to keep my coffee-drinking guests happy.

So you went from a toy to a tool Good on you.

You now got the same machine I have.
But I have the impression you're planning to do loads of foamy coffee-types with it. You will probably not be too happy, as foaming the milk will not be as comfi as on the video and while it works alright, there is always a lot of hot water getting into the milk as well. And by the way, that "quick wipe" he gives the steam-pipe afterwards is not hygienic!

Guests should always feel comfi and sure that anything you make for them is no big deal. They may not get that impression when you froth the milk on this machine. The result will be: They don't dare to ask for an other cappuccino.

You got yourself a very good, easy and elegantly small machine. You will love it! You will go with pads (I checked the link, looks good, you got choices there) but you can change to freshly ground coffee anytime you like. And/or back and forth. Perfect choice. And - should you not know that - Migros sells repair parts for deLonghi but as it's a solid, simple machine you won't need any for a long time.

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As to the milk-foam, I will receive a milk frother later today which I expect to be bloody perfect. I'll post it once I'm sure.
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So you went from a toy to a tool Good on you.

You now got the same machine I have.
But I have the impression you're planning to do loads of foamy coffee-types with it. You will probably not be too happy, as foaming the milk will not be as comfi as on the video and while it works alright, there is always a lot of hot water getting into the milk as well. And by the way, that "quick wipe" he gives the steam-pipe afterwards is not hygienic!

Guests should always feel comfi and sure that anything you make for them is no big deal. They may not get that impression when you froth the milk on this machine. The result will be: They don't dare to ask for an other cappuccino.

You got yourself a very good, easy and elegantly small machine. You will love it! You will go with pads (I checked the link, looks good, you got choices there) but you can change to freshly ground coffee anytime you like. And/or back and forth. Perfect choice. And - should you not know that - Migros sells repair parts for deLonghi but as it's a solid, simple machine you won't need any for a long time.


As to the milk-foam, I will receive a milk frother later today which I expect to be bloody perfect. I'll post it once I'm sure.
WTF... the milk frother is crap? That's one of the main reasons I bought it and I don't want to have to buy a new separate milk frother to do what the machine should be doing!

If what you are saying is true then better to buy a cheaper expresso machine (without frother) and then a good milk frother separately.

Ok, cancelling my order until I figure this out... *takes deep breaths*
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WTF... the milk frother is crap? That's one of the main reasons I bought it and I don't want to have to buy a new separate milk frother to do what the machine should be doing!
There's a skill to making frothy milk - especially if you're not spending thousands on a machine.

You sort of have to draw the milk upwards at first to provide volume and then swirl it with the frother to create the smaller bubbles.

With most cheaper machines, a little hot water may come out before the steam so you should direct the nozzle into the drain first otherwise this will get in your milk.
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There's a skill to making frothy milk - especially if you're not spending thousands on a machine.

You sort of have to draw the milk upwards at first to provide volume and then swirl it with the frother to create the smaller bubbles.

With most cheaper machines, a little hot water may come out before the steam so you should direct the nozzle into the drain first otherwise this will get in your milk.
Hmm, curley any comments on this?
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