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Re: Stewing steak - cooking disaster again

I've enjoyed roast lamb curries in the past. Roast beef curry would probably be great. Marinate for 24 hours. Cook slowly. Leave in a cool place for 24-48 hours. Re-heat and eat.

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I guess that is one of the benefits of being a bachelor - you master all of life's basic skills
While that is also true to a large extent, thankfully I had parents and grandparents who understood the importance of teaching their offspring to cook the basics from an early age! I'd go as far as to say it's a near-criminal failure in parenting not to teach your kids that kind of elementary stuff, and even if they didn't, the fact that someone has made it well into adulthood without learning how to boil a flipping egg is just lame. As for purposefully ruining a wash-load in order to shirk future household chores, the mind boggles at that kid of selfish mentality. I'd rather stay a bachelor than put up with a domestic mess like that.
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Barbarians!
Why don't your people adhere to the commonly used standards for labeling meat.
Because pretty much every country has its own name for cuts of meat?

Butchering an animal "german" style will mean you can't get "Merican" cuts from it.

Mericans didn't invent butchery so I guess we all have to live with it. (Although my butcher now does "English" bacon)
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Re: Stewing steak - cooking disaster again

Nice one, thanks. How do you know they know the truth?

So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth? Can't find that on snopes, would like to use a macchinnetta to make my coffee but my smallest hotplate is too big for it.
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Old 11.01.2017, 14:20
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I'd go as far as to say it's a near-criminal failure in parenting not to teach your kids that kind of elementary stuff, and even if they didn't, the fact that someone has made it well into adulthood without learning how to boil a flipping egg is just lame. As for purposefully ruining a wash-load in order to shirk future household chores, the mind boggles at that kid of selfish mentality. I'd rather stay a bachelor than put up with a domestic mess like that.
PML. You are just TOO cute. You're typing this from one of those member only gentleman's clubs right, slurping whiskey and sucking on a cigar and sadly slurring to the the butler about when men were men, and women were grateful?
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So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth? Can't find that on snopes, would like to use a macchinnetta to make my coffee but my smallest hotplate is too big for it.
It's a myth. I guess you are talking about the sh**ty halogen hobs so beloved here.*
If the plate gets too hot, the thermostat will turn it off until it cools down again (there's some hysteresis built in so it doesn't constantly switch on and off).
You can see the plates turning on and off.

*I'm sure halogen is fine for Swiss cuisine though.
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Put in a bit of vinegar? That softens the meat as well. In my country we have something called "draadjesvlees", yum yum

Seems to be exactly right for your piece of meat :-)


http://www.thedutchtable.com/2014/01/draadjesvlees.html
Similar to Sauerbraten, that would work, along with the slowcooker solution, but you could also freeze it, not to the point of solid, just so that you can put it in a slicer and slice it sausage fine, across the fibres not with them mind you, then either for a salad or pan fry with onion garlic a bit of bacon fresh parsley knock a couple of eggs over and serve on toast under cheese, or Chinese stir fry, or spread mustard then fill with onion, gerkin, a few herbs roll the slices into Rolladen could be a bit tricky with pre-cooked meat but it works.
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You are English, right?
Maybe you should reconsider all this cooking thing.
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Re: Stewing steak - cooking disaster again

[QUOTE=curley;2721568]So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth?

Nope, quite true.

I have such a burnt out burner (it only works on 3, 5, and 6).

(wife's fault, NOT mine )

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Old 11.01.2017, 14:34
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It's a myth. I guess you are talking about the sh**ty halogen hobs so beloved here.*
If the plate gets too hot, the thermostat will turn it off until it cools down again (there's some hysteresis built in so it doesn't constantly switch on and off).
You can see the plates turning on and off.

*I'm sure halogen is fine for Swiss cuisine though.
No I'm not (but I'm not surprised you're assuming things again). And I wouldn't want it to turn of, would I, I wanna make my coffee?!?
However, I guess Jag will come up with the answer when he's ready.
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Nice one, thanks. How do you know they know the truth?

So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth? Can't find that on snopes, would like to use a macchinnetta to make my coffee but my smallest hotplate is too big for it.
I would say that it is probably a myth. Usually it is the tstat that bites the dust, rather than the element itself.

I suppose someone might claim that spot cooling the glass would cause a thermal stress, but then putting a cold pan on the same field would be a bigger problem.

It won't be particularly efficient, but that is a different issue.

The biggest risk with a small Jezba on a large plate is melting the handle.
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No I'm not (but I'm not surprised you're assuming things again). And I wouldn't want it to turn of, would I, I wanna make my coffee?!?
However, I guess Jag will come up with the answer when he's ready.
Well you didn't say what is was. I was only trying to be helpful.

If it's the older style electric hob then Tomstyle1 is probably right - there's probably no feedback circuit to limit the heat.
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So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth?

Nope, quite true.

I have such a burnt out burner (it only works on 3, 5, and 6).

(wife's fault, NOT mine )

Tom
I doubt that this is from too small a pot Tom. Is this a halogen unit? 3, 5, 6 makes me suspect:

one of two elements at the hob are burnt out.
the wiring between tstat and element is shot.
the tstat is the problem.

Does it reach full heat on 6? If it does then I would say that the elements and the wiring are probably ok, but your tstat is toast.

(Usually you have two heating elements and 6 or "top" will only work if both elements are being fed.)
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So tell me, is 'using a pan smaller than the hotplate is bad for/burning out the hotplate' also a myth?

Nope, quite true.

I have such a burnt out burner (it only works on 3, 5, and 6).

(wife's fault, NOT mine )

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Too bad
yeah, I saw your coffee-maker on the too small hotplates on your photo .... that's when I started wondering/hoping about this again.
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Is this a halogen unit?
No it's not. Aaarg, the complications Tom1234 assumptions cause ......

sorry smileygreebins for hijacking your thread but it will take an other hour or two until you can report on your meat
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No it's not. Aaarg, the complications Tom1234 assumptions cause ......
Glass-ceramic or the pre industrial steel hotplate type?
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Glass-ceramic or the pre industrial steel hotplate type?
Glass-ceramic. And I rent the place, so no experiments :-)
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Glass-ceramic. And I rent the place, so no experiments :-)
No experiments! Where's the fun in that?

Here is the chicken solution: Use a properly sized pan, fill it with about 3-5 cm of water, then put your small footprint coffemaker into that. (yes, just like a Bain-marie, but at full heat.)

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Glass-ceramic. And I rent the place, so no experiments :-)
Glass-ceramic usually is halogen. Although older models can have heating coils instead like TomStlemans.
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