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Re: British food in Switzerland - would it work?

Apparently pasties would work.
Hard to find UK foods in Switzerland

Ooh carvery - you evil *s.

In Geneva we can go to Pickwicks or Jims for fish & chips etc.
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We have a member Andy selling frozen pies on this forum.

Meat Pies

Last news he has a website www.pie-tribe.com and is still selling his pies. I ordered 2 for delivery on Friday.

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As well as these guys. Spoilt for choice really.

http://www.swiss-pie.ch/
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Old 11.01.2017, 21:22
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Re: British food in Switzerland - would it work?

I certainly wouldn't make a pub. But pies are popular here. They sell
Them at events and they are now even sold at the Manor. Pies: good idea.

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First off - don't laugh all ye heathens.

Anyway, whilst out for a stroll on Sunday afternoon with MrsG, exploring our new commune, we passed through a hilltop hamlet with a great view over the lac de Schiffenen and the Sarine valley up to Fribourg. I thought it would be a great spot for a small restaurant and we started bouncing ideas off each other about what we would offer, if it were us. We were talking about pies and soups and stews; basically typical British/Irish comfort food. I know British food is pretty much a joke on the continent, but typical Swiss cuisine isn't the most exciting either. So how would it go down, you think? For example: steak and kidney pie, steak and Guinness pie, braised beef, chicken vegetable soup, leak and potato soup, beef stew, chicken casserole, fish and chips, Sunday roast, that sort of thing?
That is a fine idea, but doesn't fit the Swiss culture. There is no casual eating out culture that you see in Ireland or UK; it is a bit, but is overpriced. Casual quick fish and chips for CHF40? A steak and kidney pie for CHF15?

I just can't see it happening. The culture is based on perceived prestige and ultimately the superiority of all things Swiss. Nothing of what you said says anything about how amazing Switzerland is.
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That is a fine idea, but doesn't fit the Swiss culture. There is no casual eating out culture that you see in Ireland or UK; it is a bit, but is overpriced. Casual quick fish and chips for CHF40? A steak and kidney pie for CHF15?

I just can't see it happening. The culture is based on perceived prestige and ultimately the superiority of all things Swiss. Nothing of what you said says anything about how amazing Switzerland is.
Not even the leek soup?
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That is a fine idea, but doesn't fit the Swiss culture. There is no casual eating out culture that you see in Ireland or UK; it is a bit, but is overpriced. Casual quick fish and chips for CHF40? A steak and kidney pie for CHF15?
These pies are being sold for 9F at the Manor and more at festivals and out door events. If you can make a pie and salad for 15F (which you probably can't) then I can't see why not.

But for sure no one is paying 40F for fish in chips in a casual setting. You'd have to get the price down.

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I just can't see it happening. The culture is based on perceived prestige and ultimately the superiority of all things Swiss. Nothing of what you said says anything about how amazing Switzerland is.
I disagree with this. Times they are a changin'.

Asian restaurants are all over the place as are burger bars and sandwich shops. There's one pizza place here that makes a mint particularly with delivery and they sell pizzas for 2 for 35F.

I can see a casual not Swiss place doing well. Some sort of 70s punk vibe or something. The burger place here with a vintage American vibe is full all the time. It's a tiny place that holds maybe 30 people.
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These pies are being sold for 9F at the Manor and more at festivals and out door events. If you can make a pie and salad for 15F (which you probably can't) then I can't see why not.

But for sure no one is paying 40F for fish in chips in a casual setting. You'd have to get the price down.



I disagree with this. Times they are a changin'.

Asian restaurants are all over the place as are burger bars and sandwich shops. There's one pizza place here that makes a mint particularly with delivery and they sell pizzas for 2 for 35F.

I can see a casual not Swiss place doing well. Some sort of 70s punk vibe or something. The burger place here with a vintage American vibe is full all the time. It's a tiny place that holds maybe 30 people.
Yeah good idea - the prices have to come down to a casual level as well, for sure. CHF10 for a pie sounds okay, but fish and chips type of stuff needs to be under CHF20 (to be equivalent to e.g., €6-8 value it represents).

I would name it "Secondo".
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Time is indeed ripe for good pies and British food in Romandie. We would definitely visit.
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Re: British food in Switzerland - would it work?

For what it's worth, the Shamrock (Irish) pub at Wollishofen (tram stop, not train station) in Zurich has had a new chef for a couple of months now, and his food is delicious. I could eat the fried whitebait fishies all day long. (Also, the edamame with tabasco-infused salt is in no way traditional, but AMAZING.)
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Re: British food in Switzerland - would it work?

And just how many people walk by there on a good day?
Is it reachable by car?

And most importantly: would a restaurant actually be allowed at that place?
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And just how many people walk by there on a good day?
Is it reachable by car?

And most importantly: would a restaurant actually be allowed at that place?
Well, Fork and Bottle is totally out of the way, but seems to be doing well. The normal laws of physics/economics don't seem to apply in Switzerland.
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Well, Fork and Bottle is totally out of the way, but seems to be doing well. The normal laws of physics/economics don't seem to apply in Switzerland.
"Parking available directly in front of the restaurant or across the street at paid lot"

Also, Zurich-Brunau (SZU-station) is next to it.

Calling it "totally out of the way" is a bit of a stretch IMO.
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And just how many people walk by there on a good day?
Is it reachable by car?

And most importantly: would a restaurant actually be allowed at that place?
No idea

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First off - don't laugh all ye heathens.

Anyway, whilst out for a stroll on Sunday afternoon with MrsG, exploring our new commune, we passed through a hilltop hamlet with a great view over the lac de Schiffenen and the Sarine valley up to Fribourg. I thought it would be a great spot for a small restaurant and we started bouncing ideas off each other about what we would offer, if it were us. We were talking about pies and soups and stews; basically typical British/Irish comfort food. I know British food is pretty much a joke on the continent, but typical Swiss cuisine isn't the most exciting either. So how would it go down, you think? For example: steak and kidney pie, steak and Guinness pie, braised beef, chicken vegetable soup, leak and potato soup, beef stew, chicken casserole, fish and chips, Sunday roast, that sort of thing?
Sounds good to me. If the food is tasty and well priced, then I'm sure you'd get a good customer base regardless of the origin of the food.

There was a company setup last year called Le Pie, selling British pies through Manor and other outlets, perhaps you could ask them how their food is going down with the Swiss market. www.lepie.ch
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Sounds good to me. If the food is tasty and well priced, then I'm sure you'd get a good customer base regardless of the origin of the food.

There was a company setup last year called Le Pie, selling British pies through Manor and other outlets, perhaps you could ask them how their food is going down with the Swiss market. www.lepie.ch
And some good vegan and vegetarian dishes are essential
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Re: British food in Switzerland - would it work?

Sounds great and would definitely wanted to visit for such traditional comfort food.

However, strong suspect your cost base vs desire to make it a regular, repeat visit pull are unlikely to be a match.
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Many, many moons ago, way back in the late 1980's, myself and a small group of friends were seriously looking at setting up a cafe in our hometown. Life happened to most of us, but a mutual school friend of ours picked the idea up and ran with it. After 20ish years, he sold the place and retired, but it's still a going concern.

One of the main themes of the idea was that we'd display the work of local artists that was for sale, and take 5% commission on the sales. It keeps the decor fresh and changing, there's no shortage of local artists and it brings in the coffee and cake crowd. Just a thought...
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Sounds good to me. If the food is tasty and well priced, then I'm sure you'd get a good customer base regardless of the origin of the food.

There was a company setup last year called Le Pie, selling British pies through Manor and other outlets, perhaps you could ask them how their food is going down with the Swiss market. www.lepie.ch
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I'd visit for a pie
I'd go for a beer, as long as I didn't have to order any food.

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