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Drink with cheese fondue?

Is it true that only tea or white wine can be drunk with fondue? Is it an urban legend that we you may have a serious stomach problem? I have been drinking other stuff a few times, but I am never sure
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Is it true that only tea or white wine can be drunk with fondue? Is it an urban legend that we you may have a serious stomach problem? I have been drinking other stuff a few times, but I am never sure
You're never sure you have a serious stomach problem?

Tea and white whine are the traditional things. Our cheese-specialist (I'll get my commission later, grumpy ) even chucks the beer into the fondue - so why not drink some with it too?

Not sure what the big deal about fondue is at the moment. It almost sounds like "I feel I must eat this but please tell me how to survive this poison". LOL.

I eat clotted cream with my pumpkin-ginger muffins, I make farmer's pie with leek instead of - as I was taught - peas .... who gives a sh***. (There were even Brits who ate this, they did not string me up for it).

Do what you like - if you get a stomach ache, don't do it again.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

Yes, it is an urban legend, drink whatever you want, but some things just won't taste right. A good Vully white or black tea compliment fondue pretty well, red wine or beer just don't.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

It IS possible to get it wrong when eating fondue and overload your digestive system. I managed it once - and the results were not pleasant - BUT it was not a consequence of drinking the wrong thing with it. I was drinking white wine only, but probably in larger quantities than might have been advisable,

I do think Paddy is right, that the urban legend part is largely based on a perception of what goes best with the food (but tea? really? Yukk) but there is perhaps an element of truth that what you drink, or rather HOW you drink it, may play a part, along with how you eat the fondue itself.

One theory is that drinking lots of cold water is the worse culprit, which will cause the cheese to congeal within the gut. Alcohol supposedly helps break up the cheese, and some people swear by a glass of kirsch spirit after eating it for the same reason. Cold liquid really shouldn't make any difference after a few seconds, but most people would agree that, for instance, downing a litre of iced water immediately after eating, on top of a stomach full of melted cheese, is likely to cause a bad reaction.

Whatever the cause, the congealing (in the gut, not the stomach) idea is certainly consistent with my own bad experience. Other factors may include the speed at which you're eating, how much bread and other food you eat along with it and the original consistency of the fondue.

Just eat sensibly, at a reasonable pace, not gulping large quantities of fluids and I'm sure that exactly what it is you're drinking will make little or no difference at all.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

The biggest problem i've had eating fondu is when i have a bit in my mouth and the rest in my stomach joined by a big stringy bit of cheese.. Makes for interesting faces trying to get it all up or all down.

What to drink with it is never a problem.. Just as much as possible is usually what I do.

But I think it's over-rated .. It's nice and all but not a main meal. I like meat and veg.. Not bread and cheese.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

Tea, but something like a Bergkrauter Tee is best. Cold drinks solidify the cheese quickly as its going down so not great. The taste of nice dry white compliments a Fondue, but if it's too cold watch out
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

Kirsch! Nothing but!
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

In my own experience, I felt pretty awful after I had sparkling water with fondue. I try to drink more water than wine, but with bubbles was a bad idea (for me).
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Kirsch! Nothing but!
I have a special glass of kirsch to dunk the bread in before plonging it into the fondue!

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The biggest problem i've had eating fondu is when i have a bit in my mouth and the rest in my stomach joined by a big stringy bit of cheese.. Makes for interesting faces trying to get it all up or all down.
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LOL, it's not supposed to "Fäden ziehen". Sue the cook!
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

If you have anything other than White wine "Chasselas" or "Fendant" in Geneva, they'll crucify you on Place du Bourg de Four as a warning to visitors who might consider breaking the tradition!
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

Beer, and I’ve never had a problem with solidifying cheese. Seeing as your stomach is at around 37C everything ends up at that temperature.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

Ouch!

Wait a minute....you plunge the bread in the fondue...ah.

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If you have anything other than White wine "Chasselas" or "Fendant" in Geneva, they'll crucify you on Place du Bourg de Four as a warning to visitors who might consider breaking the tradition!
That is a fact!
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

kirsch is there to compress/layer the cheese in the stomach so that more fits in.

My go-to cheese wine, can be purchased in Coop is Valais AOC Fendant Les Murettes Maison Gilliard.

apart from anything else its the only decent fendant I've ever had.
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Re: Drink with cheese fondue?

I usually have/serve some black tea (a nice earl grey or so) with slices of lemon and at the end we all drink a round - or two ;-) - of Kirsch, you should also put some Kirsch (1/2 tbs) and white wine (1 dl) into the fondue itself, but give it enough time to „evaporate“ during cooking
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you should also put some Kirsch (1/2 tbs) and white wine (1 dl) into the fondue itself, but give it enough time to „evaporate“ during cooking
That would be per person., and for a small fondue.

And it won't completely evaporate, only 20% or so.

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Is it true that only tea or white wine can be drunk with fondue? Is it an urban legend that we you may have a serious stomach problem? I have been drinking other stuff a few times, but I am never sure
Swiss people would drink Kirsh with fondue, its a cherry liquor. They actually put the bread in the Kirsh before dipping in it in the fondue ... I tried but could not handle it through the entire fondue, had to to back to wine and water
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Yes, it is an urban legend, drink whatever you want, but some things just won't taste right. A good Vully white or black tea compliment fondue pretty well, red wine or beer just don't.
A few years back a team of young UK doctors did an official piece of medical research on the subject - and published in the BMJ. They came to more or less the same conclusion.
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