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Mashed Potato in Switzerland

I was brought up in Northern Ireland

If I don't have potato at least 4 times a week in my evening meal I start to suffer withdrawal symptoms.

Obviously I love Rösti - but I need mash.

While there is a good selection of potatoes in most Coops (I cant say the same for Migros or Denner) most of them are of the waxy type rather than the floury sort needed for mash.

So I buy the oldest narliest looking potatoes and boil and mash them - and they are ok - but not like mash in the UK.

So here we come to the confessional bit. After a rant about this recently someone told me to try Stocki (the Swiss equivalent of Smash).

I have to confess I rather like it. Have I gone mad in my old age - or is it actually quite good?

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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

It's actually pretty good.

Coop/Migros sell doughy sorts, but they're not quite right (Like a King Edward, for example).

There are some sorts available in Austria and Slovenia which are perfect for making champ.
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

You want 'mehlig' (starchy) potatoes.

It will say it on the bag.

Bintje are a classic type.

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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Yep, for mashed taters 'mehlkochend' potatoes.

By the way, for the most part potato sacks here, across retailers, are color coded: Green for Festkochende (potato salads etc), Blue for mehlkochende (mashed, etc.), Red for high temperature cooking.

https://www.kartoffel.ch/kartoffel/kochtypen/
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Has anyone tried making mashed from the blue potatoes?

EDIT: I mean the potatoes that are actually blue in colour, rather than the ones in the blue bag.
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Can't say I've found the ones in blue bags better for mashing than ones in green. I usually get green, sometimes blue. My current blue pack is not good for mash though, doesn't hold together at all. Challenger is the variety on the pack and I've not heard of that one before.
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Lidl sells massive string bags of potatoes labelled 'baking potatoes' or something like that which are good for roasting and for mashing.
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Has anyone tried making mashed from the blue potatoes?
Not all blue bags are the same, actually there is a wide variety and to my experience not all work as well in mashed potatoes meals.

Not knowing all species or with one we exactly buy (got used to blindly grabbing the same bag...) I can tell you that species like Bintje, Frieslander, Gloria, Maritiema, Sante and Turbo are all "Mehlig" but not as "mehlig" as species like Dore, Eigenheimer and Irene. Best is to just try the different ones your supermarket offers. And if possible you could have a look on your local market.

As a Dutch I find the offerings on potatoes in this country very very poor, there is very little choice and potatoes carrying the exact same name seem to me not consistent in quality.
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

The soil here is about eight minutes old, hence dull potatoes. Fancy food halls - Globus, Jelmoli and independents - can occassionally have decent stuff but they’re one of the few things worth smuggling across the borders. Just not in cabin baggage. I‘ve tried. "They‘re Earth Apples, officer".
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Has anyone tried making mashed from the blue potatoes?

EDIT: I mean the potatoes that are actually blue in colour, rather than the ones in the blue bag.
Not tried to mash them (I get Blaue St Galler) but I've made a rather nice soup. You have to add a bit of lemon juice, though, else the blue starts to fade.




And an FYI for those interested in heritage varieties:

https://bergkartoffeln.ch
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The soil here is about eight minutes old, hence dull potatoes. Fancy food halls - Globus, Jelmoli and independents - can occassionally have decent stuff but they’re one of the few things worth smuggling across the borders. Just not in cabin baggage. I‘ve tried. "They‘re Earth Apples, officer".
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Can you make good, or at least drinkable, Poitín from Stocki ?
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Has anyone tried making mashed from the blue potatoes?

EDIT: I mean the potatoes that are actually blue in colour, rather than the ones in the blue bag.
Yes, it works.

I even grew them for some years.

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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

Eating Smash? You should consider handing back your passport Being from ROI, I too struggle with the potato choice here.

It's time consuming but one solution is to bake the potatoes, then scoop them out, add an egg yolk along with all the usual stuff and it turns out quite well.

If I go for boiling I shake them in the colander until there is no more steam, then put them back in the pot and cook dry on a light heat to get as much of the water out as possible before mashing.
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So here we come to the confessional bit. After a rant about this recently someone told me to try Stocki (the Swiss equivalent of Smash).
There's that ever-present link to 'food' from the 1970s....
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Re: Mashed Potato in Switzerland

I grew up in Switzerland and we ate Stocki at least once a week (usually on Thursdays with a nice piece of beef). I may be biased but man, do I love that stuff!
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I grew up in Switzerland and we ate Stocki at least once a week (usually on Thursdays with a nice piece of beef). I may be biased but man, do I love that stuff!
Exciting times? Knowing what you're going to eat on everyday of every week.
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Exciting times? Knowing what you're going to eat on everyday of every week.
That's not uncommon, especially in the UK.

Sunday roast
Monday - cold meat (or some other dish) with the leftover roast.
Rest of the week - variations on a theme from the previous x weeks.

Loads of my friends' mums planned the exact same menu every week. Especially if they worked. The church-goers even had fish every Friday.

My mum didn't work and was positively exotic when she cooked something with pineapple or garlic.

As for Stöcki - sneaky guilty pleasure now and again with gravy...
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I was brought up in Northern Ireland

If I don't have potato at least 4 times a week in my evening meal I start to suffer withdrawal symptoms.

Obviously I love Rösti - but I need mash.

While there is a good selection of potatoes in most Coops (I cant say the same for Migros or Denner) most of them are of the waxy type rather than the floury sort needed for mash.

So I buy the oldest narliest looking potatoes and boil and mash them - and they are ok - but not like mash in the UK.

So here we come to the confessional bit. After a rant about this recently someone told me to try Stocki (the Swiss equivalent of Smash).

I have to confess I rather like it. Have I gone mad in my old age - or is it actually quite good?
Yes
I've not eaten Stocki in decades. Because it was not the real thing to me.

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Has anyone tried making mashed from the blue potatoes?

EDIT: I mean the potatoes that are actually blue in colour, rather than the ones in the blue bag.
Yes I have. It works, nothing special though. But it really looks unsavory

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As a Dutch I find the offerings on potatoes in this country very very poor, there is very little choice and potatoes carrying the exact same name seem to me not consistent in quality.
That's because it depends on the storage time. At the moment even the ones in the blue wrapping look like (big) Raclette-potatoes
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