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Old 02.07.2019, 10:41
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They announced it back in May sometime, they have stopped collecting them in all stores as from the end of June.

It was for a trial period only and they were overwhelmed by the quantities. They were the only retailer to offer the service and it was unsustainable for them to continue in the long term.
Shame. Maybe other retailers will join in and offer the service too at some point. Clearly a lot of people here are willing to recycle if provided with drop-off points.
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Old 02.07.2019, 10:58
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Shame. Maybe other retailers will join in and offer the service too at some point. Clearly a lot of people here are willing to recycle if provided with drop-off points.
The problem is that tetrapak is actually quite difficult and expensive to recycle.
Until a more effective and cheaper method is found I donít think any other retailers will offer it.
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The problem is that tetrapak is actually quite difficult and expensive to recycle.
Until a more effective and cheaper method is found I donít think any other retailers will offer it.
Any idea what was the perceived or current advantage to using Tetrapack might be?

As an aside, I think bagged milk is still quite popular in Canada.


Never mind. I just read the Wikipedia entry and learned quite a bit.

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Old 02.07.2019, 13:29
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Any idea what was the perceived or current advantage to using Tetrapack might be?

As an aside, I think bagged milk is still quite popular in Canada.


Never mind. I just read the Wikipedia entry and learned quite a bit.

the perceived/current advantage of tetrapak is money.
to be precise: bribe money for the people who sign the contracts with tetrapak.
that's how things work in this world
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Old 02.07.2019, 14:00
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The problem is that tetrapak is actually quite difficult and expensive to recycle.
Until a more effective and cheaper method is found I donít think any other retailers will offer it.
I always buy bio-milk in HDPE bottles and avoid Tetrapaks where I can.

It's one of those products that can be recycled in a very cost-efficient and long-lasting, repeatable manner.
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Old 02.07.2019, 14:03
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I always buy bio-milk in HDPE bottles and avoid Tetrapaks where I can.

It's one of those products that can be recycled in a very cost-efficient and long-lasting, repeatable manner.
I doníy buy milk in tetrapaks either, in fact I donít but anything in tetrapaks if I can avoid it.
Aside from the environmental impact I find the HDPE bottles much easier to use and store.
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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

In Italy TetraPak is collected with paper and cardboard and recycled by paper mills.

http://www.tiriciclo.it/raccolta-e-riciclo/ (website by TetraPak)

I read that not every paper mill can process it, however most cities started accepting it a few years ago.

The recycling process in Switzerland looks a bit unoptimized to me. PET goes to supermarkets, metal and glass goes in recycling areas, paper goes in the street in front of the house ("door-to-door" collection). TetraPak is not recycled, organic is not as well unless you explicitly apply for it. I guess that behind these different collection strategies there are different processes and companies, if so there may be some room for improvement.

Example, if TetraPak were collected with cardboard you would not have to wait for ALDI or Migros to change their process and adapt their stores, you could just work with the paper mills (which you have to do anyways).

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In Italy TetraPak is collected with paper and cardboard and recycled by paper mills.

http://www.tiriciclo.it/raccolta-e-riciclo/ (website by TetraPak)

I read that not every paper mill can process it, however most cities started accepting it a few years ago.

The recycling process in Switzerland looks a bit unoptimized to me. PET goes to supermarkets, metal and glass goes in recycling areas, paper goes in the street in front of the house ("door-to-door" collection). TetraPak is not recycled, organic is not as well unless you explicitly apply for it. I guess that behind these different collection strategies there are different processes and companies, if so there may be some room for improvement.

Example, if TetraPak were collected with cardboard you would not have to wait for ALDI or Migros to change their process and adapt their stores, you could just work with the paper mills (which you have to do anyways).

My two cents
Don't forget that Switzerland also uses non-recyclable rubbish for power, though. No idea where to start googling it but I heard that a local lad at one of the unis developed some kind of filter for the incineration plants which reduces the emissions to some vanishingly small %.
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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

We buy our milk from a regional laiterie (dairy store) in glass bottles. One franc deposit on the bottle, milk is 1.50 a litre if I remember correctly. I prefer it to the store kind anyway, and the reusable bottles are a huge plus.
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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

Oh, I just made a new thread to mention that in Geneva at various bio shops you get milk and yoghurt in glass containers, you pay 1chf/bottle deposit which is refunded when you return the container.

I imagine that the same idea is available in other cities.
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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

The "Vier Linden" bio shop has milk in glass bottles that you can return and get back 0.5 chf (same for juices, vinegar, yoghurt...).
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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

I'd say check for organic stores, or "Bio-Laden". They usually have "Demeter"-milk (a very high quality label), which usually is raw-milk, but also very expensive.

When looking for these stores online, I also found the option to make a subscription with home delivery: https://www.biomilchmann.ch/product/...ienstag/#milch

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Re: Milk in plastic bottles only?

Alnatura has milk in cardboard. Farmy and Foifi Zero waste have it in glass bottles.
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