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I am all for low carbon footprint, but overpackaged overprocessed overpriced holy foods it ain't. Eating out where real local people ethically cook for you from scratch from local suppliers while you give them decent earnings to support their own vegan or ethical granola lives, make more sense. They gotta know how to cook, though. Rant over.
Ironically, isn't this a bit of a "hipster" 'tude?
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Old 11.03.2019, 15:09
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Ironically, isn't this a bit of a "hipster" 'tude?
Those who seek shall find.

A bit of cognitive bias for Monday afternoon, innit?

Vegan fried chicken feet, anyone?

I actually experienced turning from old tastes/habits make people more likely to stick to the new routines. The transitional period of replacement is only brief. Wouldn't go back to white coffee, for example. There are a couple of sustainable local places we gladly support, investing in the community. If you see it as hipster, what can they do. It is not like they care.
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Old 11.03.2019, 15:24
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Those who seek shall find.

A bit of cognitive bias for Monday afternoon, innit?

Vegan fried chicken feet, anyone?

I actually experienced turning from old tastes/habits make people more likely to stick to the new routines. The transitional period of replacement is only brief. Wouldn't go back to white coffee, for example. There are a couple of sustainable local places we gladly support, investing in the community. If you see it as hipster, what can they do. It is not like they care.
Well, it was more the irony that you often deride the concept of hipsters but seem happy to act like one. Just seemed a little incongruous, that's all.
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Old 11.03.2019, 15:25
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Just strikes me that veganism and 'hipster' have both been hijacked by a bunch of newbies without an original thought in their be-bunned bonces.
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Old 11.03.2019, 15:30
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Well, it was more the irony that you often deride the concept of hipsters but seem.....
To you? Of course.

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Old 11.03.2019, 15:33
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To you? Of course.

Have you been on the sauce this lunchtime?
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Old 11.03.2019, 15:38
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Just strikes me that veganism and 'hipster' have both been hijacked by a bunch of newbies without an original thought in their be-bunned bonces.
Anything that's trendy gets hijacked..I am not saying OP is a fake at all, and if replacement works for them, then it is awesome. Just know that I cannot really honestly call mushed cashews a cheese. Cashews are lovely. It helped weaning off the diary, to see cashews as cashews and not cognitively seek the same textures/stickiness/flavors. It is never the same.

It is like giving a recovering drinker a virgin whiskey.

Halva was my cheese, in a weird way. It was new, didn't replace.

Anyways - I love anyone who has got the guts to question their routines and want them/us to live better. Will go for a vegan month, I think, miss it.
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Can I ask what the omelette is made from?
Made from eggs. Since Jan, I have reduced meat and fish from the majority of meals to a few fish purchases per month, and I have stopped milk/cream/yogurt. But I will continue to eat occasional meat and fish, as well as regularly eating eggs.

Obviously if you are a vegan for moral reasons that would not make sense. If you are eating less meat/fish/dairy/eggs to reduce your energy/emissions footprint, then it does make sense.

As for why I think that dietary change will have a genuine effect on carbon footprint, see the paper in the first post. And as for others seeing it as hipster, or sanctimonious, or hypocritical, or whatever, I really could not care less. The science is clear that you can reduce your carbon footprint by moving your diet in the direction of more vegetables. If you don't think that's important, fine, but why post? I posted on this forum because I want to be in contact with vegans and vegetarians about vegan products and where to buy them, maybe recipes etc.
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Old 12.03.2019, 09:36
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Re: vegan food - where can i buy pbbof?

I have seen vegan cheese at the coop on Zurich Bahnhofstrasse. So its likely that other places will have too. I know that Naturli has launched a vegan spread as well, but not sure if it is in Switzerland yet. Given how much I love their mince, its worth a try.
If you want to make at home, this recipe gives an awesome feta replacement (I made it many times)

http://www.maplespice.com/2011/04/ba...-dill-oil.html
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Old 12.03.2019, 10:54
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I posted on this forum because I want to be in contact with vegans and vegetarians about vegan products and where to buy them, maybe recipes etc.
Whilst I don't entirely agree with you on the carbon emissions aspect, I will highly recommend Rose Elliot's recipe books. She's the bedrock of Vegetarian cooking in the UK. I also grab the latest Tibits recipe magazines when I'm passing or dining there.

The main thing to remember and truly understand about vegetarian and vegan cooking is that most cultures have an absolute wealth of dishes that were always vegetarian, but now you see them touted on trendy vegan sites. Crackin' piece of salemanship. Minimum effort. Maximum bandwagon jumping. Maximum return. I'm saying that as someone who's been veggie since 1980. The 'trends' going around now are laughable, particularly the remarketing of Tivall products which have been around for about 40yrs that I know of, just that now, the company is 100% owned by Nestle.
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Old 12.03.2019, 11:02
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To the OP: don't feel you have to justify your dietary decisions to anyone. Your gob, your choice!

Haters gonna hate...
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I have seen vegan cheese at the coop on Zurich Bahnhofstrasse. So its likely that other places will have too. I know that Naturli has launched a vegan spread as well, but not sure if it is in Switzerland yet. Given how much I love their mince, its worth a try.
If you want to make at home, this recipe gives an awesome feta replacement (I made it many times)

http://www.maplespice.com/2011/04/ba...-dill-oil.html
This looks outstanding (I'm a lactose intolerant carnivore...). Thank you for the link. Making Spanakopita very soon.
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This looks outstanding (I'm a lactose intolerant carnivore...). Thank you for the link. Making Spanakopita very soon.
Gregory's at Athens airport make a gorgeous Spanakopita with additional red peppers and black olives.
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Old 12.03.2019, 11:20
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Gregory's at Athens airport make a gorgeous Spanakopita with additional red peppers and black olives.
Can't get there and back before school pick up. FWP? 😁
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Old 12.03.2019, 11:22
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To the OP: don't feel you have to justify your dietary decisions to anyone. Your gob, your choice!

Haters gonna hate...
It's a pretty civil discussion (at least it was till you lowered the tone).
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It's a pretty civil discussion (at least it was till you lowered the tone).
You really are a bitter old toad, aren't you, Tom?
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Old 12.03.2019, 11:26
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You really are a bitter old toad, aren't you, Tom?
There you go again. Troll.
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There you go again. Troll.
So you think the OP should justify what he puts in his mouth to other people?

For real?
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Old 12.03.2019, 11:33
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So you think the OP should justify what he puts in his mouth to other people?

For real?
Read the thread again (or the first time) and perhaps you'll see why you're getting your knickers in a twist.

You're the only one getting worked up about this. The OP appears quite happy to explain their decision - they weren't forced too. It's all been very civil - up to your last post.
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Made from eggs. Since Jan, I have reduced meat and fish from the majority of meals to a few fish purchases per month, and I have stopped milk/cream/yogurt. But I will continue to eat occasional meat and fish, as well as regularly eating eggs.

Obviously if you are a vegan for moral reasons that would not make sense. If you are eating less meat/fish/dairy/eggs to reduce your energy/emissions footprint, then it does make sense.

As for why I think that dietary change will have a genuine effect on carbon footprint, see the paper in the first post. And as for others seeing it as hipster, or sanctimonious, or hypocritical, or whatever, I really could not care less. The science is clear that you can reduce your carbon footprint by moving your diet in the direction of more vegetables. If you don't think that's important, fine, but why post? I posted on this forum because I want to be in contact with vegans and vegetarians about vegan products and where to buy them, maybe recipes etc.
I don't know how big of an effect is going to have on our carbon footprint as most vegan or vegetarian products are indeed heavily processed and packed as much as the other ones. But my intuition is saying there must be some (measurable) benefits on that side too.

As someone else pointed out, we don't need to justify our food choices. I know, it's hard for some people to not question these choices or even criticise them. Haven't tried vegan cheese so far, OP, but like you I try to eat as little meat and dairy products as possible. I noticed I just feel better, lighter. I am lucky that my OH would eat whatever I cook, no questions asked. You can't be too wrong especially with so many recipes on internet.
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