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Re: vegan food - where can i buy pbbof?

Our local farm is making us happy, the unpasteurized milk does wonders for our microbiome. We bring our own glass bottles, so I can imagine the foot print being even lower. The fact that this is so available to us is, imho, is putting CH ahead of the eco craze, I never had this so easy to get when I lived in the UK, US nor CA.

But despite the local gov subsidies, I cannot see the farmers making much living on this. It makes me worried. We cannot pay more than 1.50fr for a litre, and there are only a few folks who walk to the farm regularly. The idea of the almond/rice milk tetrapacked with a long shelf life, produced in Germany or France (which is the only stuff I saw in the healthfood store here), doesn't appeal.

Our fab farmers are part of our small community , PR quite a bit, the whole town knows them...still not much sale. I would hate to see the milk vending machine go. (We also really like the nifty machine.) A bunch of these veggie/nut/oat milks are also artificially enriched, that might add on the energy costs.

I do miss Provamel, the odd flavor.

I'd stay away from regularly consumed large amounts of "replacement" soy stuff, for high estrogen content.
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Hi there

Actually a vegan shop has just opened in Zurich which has its own cheese counter. I haven't had the time to go yet but hoping to visit in a couple of days. The place is called Devi Deli / goettlich vegan and is on Bertastrasse 11, 8003 Zurich.

Just out of curiosity, why did you prefer not purchase the cheese online? Do you have any go to online stores for vegan food?
Is online bought and home delivered stuff increasing or decreasing carbon foot print?
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I assume you can save at least all that waste with packages and hygiene etc. The almond trees still need watering, of course.

Ok, who is going to make anything if they can buy it from a store.


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But despite the local gov subsidies, I cannot see the farmers making much living on this. It makes me worried. We cannot pay more than 1.50fr for a litre, and there a only a few folks who walk to the farm regularly. The idea of the almond/rice milk tetrapacked with a long shelf life, produced in Germany or France (which is the only stuff I saw in the healthfood store here), doesn't appeal.

Our fab farmers are part of our small community , PR quite a bit, the whole town knows them...still not much sale. I would hate to see the milk vending machine go. (We also really like the nifty machine.) A bunch of these veggie/nut/oat milks are also artificially enriched, that might add on the energy costs.

This. And probably a few more aspects I have never even thought of, sorry I didn't take the time to be more explicit.

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i switched to oat milk for tea (oatly, available in alnatura). i have to say that i don't enjoy it like a great cup of tea with milk because it lacks creaminess, but oat milk is the best of the plant milks in tea imo. and no way can i give up cheese completely, but i am interested if can find a pbbof that is good at least for some meals...
In order to bring this back into focus, not sure if anyone else suggested it: there's a nice little store at Schaffhauserplatz "Eva's apples" (I think they also have other locations), which has/had a good selection of vegan cheeses.
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Just out of curiosity, why did you prefer not purchase the cheese online? Do you have any go to online stores for vegan food?
Thanks much for the pointer to Devi Deli. I don't buy any food online so sorry I cannot recommend any online stores for vegan food. However one that I had earlier googled is www.newroots.ch, and I also today saw that their products are available in Eva's Apples which was recommended in the previous post of scipio.
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Re: vegan food - where can i buy pbbof?

Has anyone tried Serotonina vegan cheese? I guess they can deliver anywhere in Europe, of course at a price... it looks great btw.
https://serotonina.shop
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Has anyone tried Serotonina vegan cheese? I guess they can deliver anywhere in Europe, of course at a price... it looks great btw.
https://serotonina.shop
I haven't tried Serotonina, it does look good, whoa even a blue, but I did just try this one, also from a company that seems to be good quality -
https://newroots.store/shop/soft-chz...eze-camembert/

It is the first vegan cheese that I tried. I was really surprised by how much like cheese it is in terms of the rind and the texture. For the taste, I thought it's good (I like cashews anyway) but it doesn't taste like cheese. Of course also there is no reason to expect that vegan cheese should taste like cheese.

If I were visiting a vegetarian restaurant or take-out and it was on the menu, I would happily eat it. For buying for home, probably I would not buy. But again, this is the only plant-based cheese that I ever tried - do you have ones that you like?
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In order to bring this back into focus, not sure if anyone else suggested it: there's a nice little store at Schaffhauserplatz "Eva's apples" (I think they also have other locations), which has/had a good selection of vegan cheeses.
Just a few buildings up the hill from Eva's Apples is a shop selling foods and cosmetics entirely without packaging (take along your own), as another way to reduce pollution/footprint.
https://chezmamie-biovrac.ch/nos-magasins/zurich

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