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i am wondering about how many vegans are on the forum. it's hard to tell when raising a vegan topic if there are about three vegans on the forum or more...

i found the wikipedia page below which is about vegetarianism by country (not specifically veganism) and i was quite amazed to see that switzerland is highly vegetarian -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country

more here -
https://www.swissveg.ch/veggie_survey?language=en

i was surprised because, while there are top-notch vegetarian restaurants, like hiltl and tibits, in general i think that i see more meat menus/eating around, compared to plant foods, relative to other countries. (okay, the statistics indicate that was my mistake)

anyway, would any vegans or vegetarians like to chat about their motivations and ideas about their diet? for me - i am not vegan or fully vegetarian but i recently (jan) had a big cutdown of meat and dairy and fish because of environmental concerns - animal agriculture and seafood catching is simply too demanding on what the planet can give. that's just my motivation, i am not evangelising about it. i found it the most difficult to give up animal milk in tea but i switched to nut milk and my tea trauma is over anyway, interested to hear the thoughts of others - my approach is to do with sustainability but the ethical and religious and health or other viewpoints for vegan and vegetarian diet would all be very interesting to share
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Re: vegans on ef?

Question: How do you know that someone is a vegan?

Answer: They'll tell you.
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Re: vegans on ef?

do you mind if someone uses the forum to chat about veganism or vegetarianism?

it seems so from your snide post - but why does it even bother you if someone else wants to discuss it? this is a 'food and drink' forum.
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Re: vegans on ef?

Lots of hipsters in the German speaking areas and veggie/vegan is hip these days.

Also if you look at the people who do not eat animal products it is not 14% like the wiki page says, but 8.4% like the report they link to says (to me people who eat meat every now and than simply do not qualify as vegetarians). And it is by self declaration so number could vary even more.
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Also if you look at the people who do not eat animal products it is not 14% like the wiki page says, but 8.4% like the report they link to says (to me people who eat meat every now and than simply do not qualify as vegetarians).
To be fair to the wikipedia page, it did quote a number directly from the report, here it is -
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To start with the most important: 14% of the Swiss eat vegetarian or vegan (11% vegetarian, 3%vegan).
But I completely see your point there is also the 8.4% number in the report, which is for people who never 'make exceptions in their diet'.
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anyway, would any vegans or vegetarians like to chat about their motivations and ideas about their diet? [...] anyway, interested to hear the thoughts of others - my approach is to do with sustainability but the ethical and religious and health or other viewpoints for vegan and vegetarian diet would all be very interesting to share
I am vegetarian, if you don't take certain things to narrow minded, e.g. occasionally I eat certain dishes that will be partially seasoned with fish sauce etc, I also eat many cheeses many of which are strictly speaking not vegetarian. But for fun I did live as a vegan for a few months. It was an interesting experiment and I found it to be very easy (at least in Zürich there are so many good options, from fast food places to gourmet/Michelin star restaurants). I thought that your comment about restaurants in other countries having more vegetarian options to be very interesting, as my experience is quite the opposite. I guess it depends on the specific country/city.

I don't necessarily have a particular motivation for being vegetarian. I guess, as a kid I realized that animals have to be killed for us to have meat, that's when I stopped eating meat products. As it has been so long since I have been eating meat the last time, I don't even remember the taste anymore and I don't consider it to be food. While I have no problem cutting out eggs or milk from my diet, I couldn't be a full vegan as I love cheese too much. I'm very well aware that the dairy industry is not separated from the meet industry - and while it does bother me, I never managed to cut out cheese from my diet.
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do you mind if someone uses the forum to chat about veganism or vegetarianism?
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it seems so from your snide post - but why does it even bother you if someone else wants to discuss it? this is a 'food and drink' forum.
My previous post was a joke.

We made vegan food last night - falafels, baba ganoush, hummous etc.

I'm neither vegan or vegetarian though but am quite happy to eat both types of food.
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Re: vegans on ef?

OP, although I am not a vegetarian, Hiltl is my favourite restaurant lately. So convenient. I think I pop in there at least one time per week. As for reasons for going - partly or only at times - vegan or vegetarian...well, I simply enjoy the food, think it's good for our health, for the environment and a tiny little bit for animals too, since if we reduce our consumption all those horrific animal factories will adjust their production. But I think it's a drop in the ocean... Maybe it's fair to say I eat vegetarian or vegan simply because I like it and think it's good for me. Also, I aim to fast (meaning a simple vegan diet in my terms, not a complete fasting) a couple of days per week so that might give me a better motivation at times. Of course, it varies a lot on my mood. I don't take anything to the "extreme" so to speak.

I am always happy to read or hear passionate people talking about recipes, restaurants etc etc. Please, carry on and don't be bothered by naysayers. There's a place for everybody.
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We're all Vegans cause we can't afford the high price of meat.

Either it's Entrecote or nothing.
Anything else is a supplement!
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... i was quite amazed to see that switzerland is highly vegetarian...
Why? Have you not seen the price of meat here?
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Why? Have you not seen the price of meat here?
Why? prices for meat are too low here
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Why? prices for meat are too low here
In "SoCal"? Well maybe, but surely you can find more expensive meat if you look for it?
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Question: How do you know that someone is a vegan?

Answer: They'll tell you.
What's the first rule of Vegan Club?

Tell everyone about Vegan Club.
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brilliant, you just made exactly the same joke as the second poster on the thread in different words. don't stop - keep changing the wording slightly e.g. gang instead of club? and you'll be able to keep going all day
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brilliant, you just made exactly the same joke as the second poster on the thread in different words. don't stop - keep changing the wording slightly e.g. gang instead of club? and you'll be able to keep going all day
Why are you being so uptight? You have your topic going on, there is no harm in some levity alongside. That is the pattern in almost all threads on EF and that is what brings me here.

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it seems so from your snide post - but why does it even bother you if someone else wants to discuss it?
Not being snide, but it's an old joke to be fair, and one that I've found to be very true Most of my friends, and some family, don't know I'm vegetarian because it's not an issue.

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I thought that your comment about restaurants in other countries having more vegetarian options to be very interesting, as my experience is quite the opposite. I guess it depends on the specific country/city...

...While I have no problem cutting out eggs or milk from my diet, I couldn't be a full vegan as I love cheese too much.
I think we're on the same page. Love Portugal, but eating out there is a bit of a nightmare, and it used to be the same in the U.S. in the 90s unless you opted for pizza most nights.

As for new recipes, I keep promising myself to try the ones in the Tibits magazines but usually end up using the ingredient recipe search on the BBC website https://www.bbc.com/food/ingredients
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I often wonder how many vegans are atheists.
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I often wonder how many vegans are atheists.
Dammit! I’m an atheist - do I have to give up meat now?
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I often wonder how many vegans are atheists.
Could you elaborate on your thinking?
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Could you elaborate on your thinking?
An Atheist, a vegan and a CrossFitter walk into a bar. How do you know?
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