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Vegan burger

anyone know if there's somewhere close to Basel where you can try this burger?

https://www.theguardian.com/food/201...-eating-habits

or should I call it a vegan disc?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8854961.html
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Ai Phil. Hope that someone hacked your account and posted this
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Old 09.04.2019, 11:07
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Just doing my bit for EF Vegan Week
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Re: Vegan burger

When I order a burger, or a steak I expect to get meat. When I order caviar I don’t want dog-fish eggs.

Don’t try and deceive me, be honest
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When I order a burger, or a steak I expect to get meat. When I order caviar I don’t want dog-fish eggs.

Don’t try and deceive me, be honest
That's the one thing that really puzzles me about vegetarians or vegans: They put so much energy and phantasy into producing copies of hamburger, Schnitzel what ever.

If I don't want to eat meat, I don't want to be reminded of the look of it - or worse the taste either, do I?!
So why can't a vegan just eat a veggie-burger?

It would probably be more healthy to leave the bun out and eat the meat though
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Re: Vegan burger

You can try the Beyond Meat Burger at the Helvti diner (of course in Zürich, the most trendsetting city of Switzerland )

https://bellevue.nzz.ch/kochen-genie...ich-ld.1463441
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That's the one thing that really puzzles me about vegetarians or vegans: They put so much energy and phantasy into producing copies of hamburger, Schnitzel what ever.

If I don't want to eat meat, I don't want to be reminded of the look of it - or worse the taste either, do I?!
So why can't a vegan just eat a veggie-burger?

It would probably be more healthy to leave the bun out and eat the meat though
I am puzzled that it puzzles so many non vegetarians.

Those vegetarians I know are vegetarians because of ethical reasons, not because they do not like the looks or taste of a steak. Maybe they even miss it or are in some way used to the looks/name of it and are happy they have a similiar replacement.
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Re: Vegan burger

I really need to take a dip-stick to my Dyslexia and check the damned thing.
I read: "Vegan burgler!"
How do you know the vegan burgler has been in your home? The Biomüll had been emptied and there is not a carrot in the house.
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Re: Vegan burger

There's a big sign outside the Volkshaus Basel brasserie (near the Rebgasse parking) that they have Beyond Burgers...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwWknbTHwWu/

No I don't know anything more than that, no not affiliated to the restaurant, just like looking out of bus windows.
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Re: Vegan burger

It's capitalism at it's ultimate best.
Selling cheap vegi burgers for the price of a real one.


If I really wanted goat feed I would go to the Landi for lunch.
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Re: Vegan burger

Well it's not like people who quit eating meat for ethical reasons all come from vegan cultures/families. The most of them grew up in carnivore families and they now miss lots of dishes and flavours. They usually like the taste of the meat as well as a this cultural concept of 'grabbing a burger' or having a barbecue with their close ones. Therefore I find it logical to seek for plant-based alternatives. Also, there is quite a big group of people who wouldn't mind diversificate their diet and reducing meat consumption a little as long as there is tasty equivalent provided. As many researches show, this might be a good change for out planet so I wouldn't judge vegan "meat" so negatively

And regarding your question, they serve some good vegan burgers in Mrs Burger. At least I like it a lot Though if you'll find the "Impossible Burger" somewhere in Switzerland I'd be happy to try it! I'm really curious how they've made it
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Re: Vegan burger

I don't eat red meat purely out of environmental concerns. I like the taste of meat, and I found that the "Beyond Burger" that they sell in Migros to be pretty good. Best veggie burger I ever tried, by a LONG shot.
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Re: Vegan burger

I watched the youtube clip of James May (formerly Top Gear) eating one of these burgers. I won't get those minutes of my life back, but I won't be rushing about to find one of these burgers either.
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I watched the youtube clip of James May (formerly Top Gear) eating one of these burgers. I won't get those minutes of my life back, but I won't be rushing about to find one of these burgers either.
Just watched it. I quote him: "No, doesn't taste like a burguer...it's nice. It'll do the trick. That's it."

I have to say, watching someone's facial expressions while eating is not my the peak of my day. But he does say that it's pretty good.
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Old 29.11.2019, 16:17
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Well it's not like people who quit eating meat for ethical reasons all come from vegan cultures/families. The most of them grew up in carnivore families and they now miss lots of dishes and flavours. They usually like the taste of the meat as well as a this cultural concept of 'grabbing a burger' or having a barbecue with their close ones. Therefore I find it logical to seek for plant-based alternatives. Also, there is quite a big group of people who wouldn't mind diversificate their diet and reducing meat consumption a little as long as there is tasty equivalent provided. As many researches show, this might be a good change for out planet so I wouldn't judge vegan "meat" so negatively ......
I admit, you got a point.
Never understood it really but actually it's like being allergic to something and looking for the next best thing.

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I don't eat red meat purely out of environmental concerns. I like the taste of meat, and I found that the "Beyond Burger" that they sell in Migros to be pretty good. Best veggie burger I ever tried, by a LONG shot.
Glad you enjoy it. Glad it saves the enviroment.
It's not healthy for you though.
Ingredients of Beyond Burger Migros:

<<Wasser, Erbsenprotein 18 %, Rapsöl, Kokosnussöl, natürliche Aromen, Stabilisatoren: Cellulose und Methylcellulose, Kartoffelstärke, Maltodextrin, Hefeextrakt, Kochsalz, Sonnenblumenöl, Trockenhefe, Verdickungsmittel: Gummi arabicum, Antioxidationsmittel: Ascorbinsäure, färbender Randensaft, modifizierte Stärke, Säuerungsmittel: Essigsäure, Apfelextrakt, Zitronensaftkonzentrat. >>

I will not translate it all, it might put you off.
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Glad you enjoy it. Glad it saves the enviroment.
It's not healthy for you though.
Ingredients of Beyond Burger Migros:

<<Wasser, Erbsenprotein 18 %, Rapsöl, Kokosnussöl, natürliche Aromen, Stabilisatoren: Cellulose und Methylcellulose, Kartoffelstärke, Maltodextrin, Hefeextrakt, Kochsalz, Sonnenblumenöl, Trockenhefe, Verdickungsmittel: Gummi arabicum, Antioxidationsmittel: Ascorbinsäure, färbender Randensaft, modifizierte Stärke, Säuerungsmittel: Essigsäure, Apfelextrakt, Zitronensaftkonzentrat. >>

I will not translate it all, it might put you off.
Is any of that actually "unhealthy" though? They have fancy chemical names but often they're just every day ingredients.

I bet if you broke down the ingredients of a beef burger and listed them all with their fancy chemical names, it would have a similar "unhealthy" look about it until you figured out which each one was.
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Ingredients of Beyond Burger Migros:

<<Wasser, Erbsenprotein 18 %, Rapsöl, Kokosnussöl, natürliche Aromen, Stabilisatoren: Cellulose und Methylcellulose, Kartoffelstärke, Maltodextrin, Hefeextrakt, Kochsalz, Sonnenblumenöl, Trockenhefe, Verdickungsmittel: Gummi arabicum, Antioxidationsmittel: Ascorbinsäure, färbender Randensaft, modifizierte Stärke, Säuerungsmittel: Essigsäure, Apfelextrakt, Zitronensaftkonzentrat. >>

I will not translate it all, it might put you off.
Really scary stuff such as Ascorbinsäure (vitamin C), and the deadly colouring (färbender Randensaft) - beetroot juice.

Then there's apple extract.

I'm surprised how healthy it is.
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Wasser, Erbsenprotein 18 %, Rapsöl, Kokosnussöl, natürliche Aromen, Stabilisatoren: Cellulose und Methylcellulose, Kartoffelstärke, Maltodextrin, Hefeextrakt, Kochsalz, Sonnenblumenöl, Trockenhefe, Verdickungsmittel: Gummi arabicum, Antioxidationsmittel: Ascorbinsäure, färbender Randensaft, modifizierte Stärke, Säuerungsmittel: Essigsäure, Apfelextrakt, Zitronensaftkonzentrat.
No need to translate, my German is quite decent. And I also know exactly what each of the ingredients is. My family business is a food additives business, so I promise that in a NON patronising tone I will break down the ingradients (I clarify, because before posting I re-read and it came across fairly ugly, and I don't mean it that way). So here goes nothing:

Water, chick pea protein, colsa oil, coconut oil, natural aroma, they're mostly everyday ingredients. Stabilizer is usually used to keep the food shape, and it's more often than not a seaweed gum, such as carragen or guar gum. For this burger they use cellulose and methylcellulose. Luckily it's non digestible (therefore laxative in bulk form), and non allergen. Then there's potato starch...fine. Yeast extracts (probably to complement the umami flavor)...fine. Salt...OK. Sunflower seed oil...OK . Dry yeast, also fine. Gum arabic as a thickener...also fine (it's veggie origin, comes from a common tree), ascorbic acid as antioxidant (so it doesn't change color in contact with oxygen) which is vitamin C...fine. Coloring they use beet juice....fine by me. Modified starch is not great, but it's no big deal: they enzimatically modify starch to have certain properties, it's harmless but nutritionally useless. As a sour flavor they add vinegar, apple extract and concentrated lemon juice.

Not so scary if you know their everyday names and where they come from.
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That's the one thing that really puzzles me about vegetarians or vegans: They put so much energy and phantasy into producing copies of hamburger, Schnitzel what ever.
According to the company behind the Impossible Burger, it's designed for 'meat eaters'...

"Impossible Foods Inc, the company responsible for the vast majority of the meatless-burger craze, said in a recent interview that their products were designed for “meat eaters” who were looking for ways to reduce their animal-based food consumption, and not necessarily for vegans and vegetarians."

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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/ve...-rebel-burger/
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Re: Vegan burger

I wrote absolutely nothing about scary. LOL.
You mentioned it, I checked it out - because I'm a curious person - decided this doesn't appeal to me.

The few times I eat a burger at all, I prefer a (basic, if possible) bread, a piece of meat, a slice of tomatoe and some salad (from the garden would be perfect), don't mind some ketchup and other sauces with funny ingredients but tasty and that's it.
Each to one's own, as I said, glad you enjoy the Migros one. Specially as meat is not an option for you.
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