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Whatís with the price of Cooking Oil?

Anyone able to shed any light as to why cooking oil is so expensive here? I understand the Swiss mark up on many products but on cooking oil itís unbelievable. Bog standard Sunflower oil or Rapeseed oil costs about Ä1 a bottle in Germany. Here itís about 5 chf. Anyone know why? Iím not even sure itís produced in Switzerland.
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Anyone able to shed any light as to why cooking oil is so expensive here? I understand the Swiss mark up on many products but on cooking oil itís unbelievable. Bog standard Sunflower oil or Rapeseed oil costs about Ä1 a bottle in Germany. Here itís about 5 chf. Anyone know why? Iím not even sure itís produced in Switzerland.
because stupid people are willing to pay 5chf, so they charge 5chf.
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Anyone able to shed any light as to why cooking oil is so expensive here? I understand the Swiss mark up on many products but on cooking oil itís unbelievable. Bog standard Sunflower oil or Rapeseed oil costs about Ä1 a bottle in Germany. Here itís about 5 chf. Anyone know why? Iím not even sure itís produced in Switzerland.
Eh? In Germany it's between EUR 3.10-4.70 per litre, depending on whether it's supermarket budget or fancy-pants.

Here it seems to be CHF 3.90 (cheapo) - CHF 7.00 (posh). Not THAT big a difference to over the border. Where specifically are you shopping? Globus?
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Anyone able to shed any light as to why cooking oil is so expensive here? I understand the Swiss mark up on many products but on cooking oil it’s unbelievable. Bog standard Sunflower oil or Rapeseed oil costs about €1 a bottle in Germany. Here it’s about 5 chf. Anyone know why? I’m not even sure it’s produced in Switzerland.
What's 5CHF? That's nothing
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Old 29.10.2019, 17:11
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Re: Whatís with the price of Cooking Oil?

Check out Aldi and Lidl....
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Eh? In Germany it's between EUR 3.10-4.70 per litre, depending on whether it's supermarket budget or fancy-pants.

Here it seems to be CHF 3.90 (cheapo) - CHF 7.00 (posh). Not THAT big a difference to over the border. Where specifically are you shopping? Globus?
Where in Germany do you shop?

Sunflower oil in Germany can easily be found for 1,- and almost every supermarket has 1L bottles for 1,50

Switzerland is with the little stuff most often more expensive than our neighbouring countries, and some things like oil it is much more expensive.
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Where in Germany do you shop?

Sunflower oil in Germany can easily be found for 1,- and almost every supermarket has 1L bottles for 1,50

Switzerland is with the little stuff most often more expensive than our neighbouring countries, and some things like oil it is much more expensive.
Looked on a German price comparison site but, having looked again, it filtered out everything except Kaufland products. Yup, you can get it cheaper.
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Looked on a German price comparison site but, having looked again, it filtered out everything except Kaufland products. Yup, you can get it cheaper.
Time to start using another price comparison site (or better, search directly since Germany lacks great price comparison sites)

https://www.kaufland.de/sortiment/da...d=3901030.html

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What's 5CHF? That's nothing
Itís not about being unable to afford it, Iím curious as to why itís so much more expensive.
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Check out Aldi and Lidl....
Even there I think itís still 3.50+ chf.
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Re: Whatís with the price of Cooking Oil?

Why sell it for CHF 1 if people will pay CHF 4?

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Re: Whatís with the price of Cooking Oil?

Protection of domestic agriculture. See, we should be in the EU.

Unprotected olive oil is roughly the same price.
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Protection of domestic agriculture. See, we should be in the EU.
I can't think of a single EU economy I'd like to trade for our Swiss economy.

Can you?
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Re: Whatís with the price of Cooking Oil?

Protection of Swiss agriculture, far higher salaries and rent, smaller market, customer willing to pay more
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due to the higher quality swiss sunflowers and the artisan flower pickers that are trained over generations...
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far higher salaries
That appears to be largely compensated by other factors.

Longer working hours, lower additional costs ("Lohnnebenkosten") such as social security costs, fewer absences due to illness, and often higher productivity, result in comparable or even lower cost per output in CH. For instance Swiss retailers enjoy a 5% cost advantage over their competitors in the neighboring countries according to this study that was, mind, financed by the big retailers themselves (except Aldi and Lidl).
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Protection of Swiss agriculture, far higher salaries and rent, smaller market, customer willing to pay more
Transport/storage more expensive, less subsidies for internal market, to rent a building and maintain installations etc.. is all much more expensive. Products often produced on smaller scale. And last but not least the Swiss franc has become worth so much more over the last decades.

10 to 20 years ago 1 Euro was about 1,53 / 1,67 CHF now over the last years it is around 1,10 / 1,15 chf. That is one of the main reasons Switzerland feels so damn expensive and why the paychecks feel to incredible high here for a lot of jobs.
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Transport/storage more expensive, less subsidies for internal market, to rent a building and maintain installations etc.. is all much more expensive. Products often produced on smaller scale. And last but not least the Swiss franc has become worth so much more over the last decades.

10 to 20 years ago 1 Euro was about 1,53 / 1,67 CHF now over the last years it is around 1,10 / 1,15 chf. That is one of the main reasons Switzerland feels so damn expensive and why the paychecks feel to incredible high here for a lot of jobs.

1) We are not discussing some ultra-rare 100% organic hipster stuff... but basic cooking oil. Its not small batch production in CH, it comes from the same mass producers as in the neighbouring countries. I actually believe we import a lot from the US.


2) the argument that the Swiss franc is much stronger today... well, it doesnt make much sense, does it? If anything should the change in exchange rate have trigerred a cheaper price.



The reason is simple: CH is a rather protected market with a duopoly in groceries. The new players like Aldi and Lidl apparently decided to not really go full power in competing, but rather be a bit cheaper and still make very nice margins. Swiss consumers are getting screwed daily but have nobody but themselves to blame for as they are so incredibly price insensitive that none of the shops see a need to be more competitive.
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1) We are not discussing some ultra-rare 100% organic hipster stuff... but basic cooking oil. Its not small batch production in CH, it comes from the same mass producers as in the neighbouring countries. I actually believe we import a lot from the US.
Amount of stuff bought has a direct relation to the price. The more you buy the cheaper it gets, and Switzerland is a relatively small market.
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2) the argument that the Swiss franc is much stronger today... well, it doesnt make much sense, does it? If anything should the change in exchange rate have trigerred a cheaper price.
Sure it makes a difference, it makes stuff in Germany much cheaper when compared to our market, also the wages, rents and such become much more expensive when compared to Germany.

If the Euro is 1.67chf and something costs chf 4,- here and Ä2,- in Germany the price difference is little. Now the Euro is about 1,15 chf, so to us the thing in Germany costs only 2,30 CHF but ours is still 4,- our cash register lady earns double when compared to Germany by now. And no this is not levelled when taking in account lower costs for employers, so stores only have a limited possibility of lowering the prices due to import with a stronger Franc.
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I can't think of a single EU economy I'd like to trade for our Swiss economy.

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Maybe Luxembourg?
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