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I know raw copper when I see it, been sweating pipe for decades.
To combine the egg and copper pipe topics - I did all the copper pipe work in my house in the U.K. using a small blow torch which I had bought at a kitchen shop for caramelizing the sugar on creme brulee. Worked a treat.

It's called soldering in the U.K. Sweating is involved in other activities.
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Or for just egg and copper...

Copper bowl for whipping egg whites. Great combination.
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Or for just egg and copper...

Copper bowl for whipping egg whites. Great combination.

But you would surely get yellow egg whites which would add even more confusion to this thread
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I also just ordered this set of 3x stainless steel mixing bowls with the matching glass lids:

RÖSLE Bowl set: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00...KR8XB7XF&psc=1

RÖSLE Lids: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B007NMLCGE/...67&sr=8-5&th=1

Originally I had ordered this WMF bowl set but when I got them I found that they are really not deep enough to avoid any splatter and are thus not very practical or suitable for mixing in so I will be returning them https://www.amazon.co.uk/WMF-Gourmet.../dp/B00ZVUZVFI

Yes the RÖSLE are overall 2x the price but better to have 3x practical bowls with sealing lids for 100chf than 4x small impractical bowls for 50chf. Plus they will last years so I consider them an investment in my forthcoming 'plastic-free' (so far as possible) kitchen.
Wow, I received these today and they really are the Rolls Royce of stainless steel bowls... thick and substantial and beautifully crafted with a lovely frosted exterior. The silicone and glass lids fit very well and are airtight enough for keeping things fresh, but not 100% water tight unless you tape the lid down very firmly. They will last years.
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Old 06.12.2019, 12:01
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Wow, I received these today and they really are the Rolls Royce of stainless steel bowls... thick and substantial and beautifully crafted with a lovely frosted exterior. The silicone and glass lids fit very well and are airtight enough for keeping things fresh, but not 100% water tight unless you tape the lid down very firmly. They will last years.
We use those cheap Ikea stainless steel serving bowls as mixing bowls. Small 4.95CHF, large 8.95CHF.

They have lasted for years and are still going!
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We use those cheap Ikea stainless steel serving bowls as mixing bowls. Small 4.95CHF, large 8.95CHF.

They have lasted for years and are still going!
Very good value indeed! Sadly though they don't have the sizes I need (16cm and 24cm). IKEA really does have some good stuff nowadays in their kitchen ranges.
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Old 06.12.2019, 12:41
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Very good value indeed! Sadly though they don't have the sizes I need (16cm and 24cm). IKEA really does have some good stuff nowadays in their kitchen ranges.
They're not perfect - the bases are a little too small so they're not very stable and they could be a bit deeper but on the plus side, because they are so cheap, you can have loads of them.

The very small ones, the 12cm are great for when you've got lots of different ingredients to chop prepare and which won't all be cooked at exactly the same time so need to be kept separate.
They're also good when following a new recipe and need to have everything weighed and prepared first.

Used like this, they'd probably complement some good mixing bowls rather than replacing them.

You mentioned that you want to improve your cooking skills - something I'm, trying to do constantly.

Tips I have found helpful:

1. I have a policy of cooking something new every week. It's one way of continuously improving.

2. If a recipe doesn't work and you cannot work out why - it may just be wrong - lots of cook books appear to have either untested recipes or mistakes in weight-conversions.

3. If a recipe does work, cook it again before cooking it for guests as sometimes it was just pure fluke the first time.

4. Some Youtube recipes are just wrong and could not possibly work. My kids sometimes want to cook something they've seen on Youtube - it doesn't work and when I've seen the video -it's clear that it's all smoke and mirrors with some careful editing.
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Old 06.12.2019, 13:08
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They're not perfect - the bases are a little too small so they're not very stable and they could be a bit deeper but on the plus side, because they are so cheap, you can have loads of them.

The very small ones, the 12cm are great for when you've got lots of different ingredients to chop prepare and which won't all be cooked at exactly the same time so need to be kept separate.
They're also good when following a new recipe and need to have everything weighed and prepared first.

Used like this, they'd probably complement some good mixing bowls rather than replacing them.

You mentioned that you want to improve your cooking skills - something I'm, trying to do constantly.

Tips I have found helpful:

1. I have a policy of cooking something new every week. It's one way of continuously improving.

2. If a recipe doesn't work and you cannot work out why - it may just be wrong - lots of cook books appear to have either untested recipes or mistakes in weight-conversions.

3. If a recipe does work, cook it again before cooking it for guests as sometimes it was just pure fluke the first time.

4. Some Youtube recipes are just wrong and could not possibly work. My kids sometimes want to cook something they've seen on Youtube - it doesn't work and when I've seen the video -it's clear that it's all smoke and mirrors with some careful editing.
My strategy is to practise a dish a few times until it becomes reasonably intuitive and then practise something else. For example the last couple of weeks I have had a few French omelettes in the evenings to see if I can get them hang of cooking them in my new pans. So far it's still a work in progress.

I do have a load of cook books I need to start using, but yes you are right that there can be variances in recipes and some don't really work as they should, but generally I only try to use recipes that are well reviewed. With Youtube, I only subscribe to a few channels. For books, I find the "Good Housekeeping Step-by-Step" cook books to be pretty reliable and easy to follow. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Housekeepin...5634055&sr=8-2
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Old 06.12.2019, 13:11
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4. Some Youtube recipes are just wrong and could not possibly work. My kids sometimes want to cook something they've seen on Youtube - it doesn't work and when I've seen the video -it's clear that it's all smoke and mirrors with some careful editing.
When I try a new recipe I normally do a little research first and don't just trust one source but read several and try to work out whether the differences reflect variants or errors. Often things are implied and not said or steps just get forgotten and it's only through cross-reading that this becomes clear.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

This popped up on my fb feed today and I thought of this thread....

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/a...food-trend-men
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https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/a...food-trend-men
LOL... dude should have bought carbon steel.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

Well, to provide some sense of order and closure to the thread, in the end my final list of stuff I bought to refit my kitchen after years of using crappy cookware is:

I think that covers almost all of my bases (that I have identified so far) and I am looking forward to many years of good use out of them.
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Old 12.12.2019, 09:34
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Well, to provide some sense of order and closure to the thread, in the end my final list of stuff I bought to refit my kitchen after years of using crappy cookware is:

I think that covers almost all of my bases (that I have identified so far) and I am looking forward to many years of good use out of them.
The thing that stands out on that list - is that so much online stuff cannot be delivered to Switzerland.

People on this forum tell us to use a parcel pickup in Germany but for me at least, it's a three hour round trip just for the driving.
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The thing that stands out on that list - is that so much online stuff cannot be delivered to Switzerland.

People on this forum tell us to use a parcel pickup in Germany but for me at least, it's a three hour round trip just for the driving.
Yup, while Amazon IS improving with regards of the amount of stuff that is shipped to CH, a lot of it still can't be and I am just lucky that it happens to be Christmas time and that me and my old man will both be meeting at the same place with cars. Otherwise, I would have to either compromise on what I bought (for example you would be surprised how hard it is in CH to find a set of saucepans that match the specs of the ones I bought without buying Le Creuset) or also maybe have had it shipped to Germany (provided it was even possible) to be collected. Luckily I am only an hour or so away from my DE pickup point (which I have never yet used).

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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

I am usually ordering de Buyer pans from here:
https://www.knivesandtools.com/en/ct/de-buyer-pans.htm
and sometimes on Galaxus:
https://www.galaxus.ch/en/brand/de-b...961?q=de+buyer


First shop has usually one of the lowest prices with shipment to Switzerland, price in shop are still with VAT (deducted when you pay), shipment is free after some amount, but you have to pay for import expenses.


Galaxus I am using only when they have some sort of promotion, as they are 40% more expensive.
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I am usually ordering de Buyer pans from here:
https://www.knivesandtools.com/en/ct/de-buyer-pans.htm
and sometimes on Galaxus:
https://www.galaxus.ch/en/brand/de-b...961?q=de+buyer


First shop has usually one of the lowest prices with shipment to Switzerland, price in shop are still with VAT (deducted when you pay), shipment is free after some amount, but you have to pay for import expenses.


Galaxus I am using only when they have some sort of promotion, as they are 40% more expensive.
Oh man thanks you are a star, that knivesandtools store is crazy good value and cheap shipping to CH!
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

Well, I have now had a little time to try using the new stuff and wow... such a huge difference!

The saucepans are excellent... the food cooks so evenly and meat and onions etc brown and caramalize beautifully. They are also extra deep vs many other pans (the 20cm one has a 3.8L capacity!), so great for starting meals like bolognaise etc with no spillage. The four sizes are also super useful. They are pretty damn heavy when full though so definitely a workout for the arms!

The Wusthof knives really are super high quality and deadly sharp, the difference to my old knives is simply dramatic and I will slowly build a collection of the most useful ones as I identify a need for them.

I used the dutch oven once and it seems to be good quality and does what it's supposed to do, very versatile as a one-pot solution that can go from hob to oven with ease..

I haven't had chance to use the wok yet but I have seasoned it and it is ready to roll with a lovely non-stick patina on the bottom. My De Buyer carbon steel pans are also more non-stick than my old Tefal non-stick pans and cooking omelettes in the 22cm one is rapidly becoming a favourite culinary pastime of mine. I think I am getting addicted to French omelettes with mild gruyere cheese in the middle and I hope to be a pro at doing them in a couple of months. They were certainly a hit when I took the pans to my family to coook for them at Christmas!

PS: To season my pans I initially used the oven technique I mentioned earlier in the thread which worked very well, but takes ages. Now instead I put a light coat of oil on the pans and put them on the hob with max heat until the oil smokes and then stops smoking. Takes a fraction of the time and works pretty good with the one caveat being that the upper sides of the pan don't get hot enough to get rid of the oil. So, the oven technique is still a good idea for a base layer that covers the inside and outside of the pan, but the hob technique is more practical if it needs to be added to or re-seasoned regularly.

I also bought one of the Monsieur Cuisine Connect machines from Lidl (which has them in stock in Switzerland now fir 349chf)... seems to work fine and I made brownies with it the other day which turned out surprisingly nice. It's a big unit but for 20% of the price of a Thermomix it seems like a no-brainer for a lot of convenience work. https://family.lidl.ch/monsieur-cuis...alltags-check/

Basically, I now have everything I need to cover pretty much every cooking scenario I can think of and tomorrow a nice handyman chap is coming to help me install some more kitchen shelves to store it as I now basically have no space for things (a 14" wok takes a lot of space, hah) so I bought the IKEA Kungsfors system:

2x KUNGSFORS shelves https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/kungsfo...teel-50334925/
2x KUNGSFORS wall grids https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/kungsfo...teel-80334919/
10x packs of KUNGSFORS hooks https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/kungsfo...teel-20334922/
1x KUNGSFORS magnetic knife rack https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/kungsfo...teel-40334921/
2x MALERAS wooden shelves which are perfect for spices (ironically more so than their actual spice racks) https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/maleras...mboo-00446237/

The plan will be to hand all of my pots and pans on the wall, giving a rustic style and making them easily accessible while saving space in my cupboards.

I will post a photo when it's all done.
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You took your pans home for Christmas?
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As well as or instead of pressies?
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Don’t we all like to take our frying pans for a little holiday every now and again? It must be awfully boring for them being stuck in the same kitchen all the time.
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