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Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

I am looking to upgrade my old and well-used non-stick set for something of better quality that suits my cooking abilities (not bad for a bloke) and have decided I want a good set of stainless steel pots and pans. My requirements are:
  1. Stainless steel 18/10 and uncoated (ideally tri-ply)
  2. Less than 400chf for the set (ideally)
  3. Durable and thick-bottomed
  4. Tempered glass lids with steam holes/vents (so I can see inside without lifting the lid)
  5. SUITABLE FOR ELECTRIC CERAMIC HOB AND INDUCTION.

I am initially looking for the following items for my set:
  1. 16cm saucepan/pot
  2. 18cm saucepan/pot
  3. 20cm saucepan/pot
  4. 24cm stockpot
  5. 28cm Saute pan (straight sided)

I have read tons online and am still very confused as to which brand are the ideal mix of value and quality.

Suggestions appreciated please!

EDIT - Update as of 10.12.2019

Well guys, thanks for all of the recommendations I really appreciate it. After all that palaver I have now ordered the following, using my dad as a delivery address for some of it that was only available in the UK and he will bring them to me at Christmas:

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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

Check out the brand of Silit. I've had a set of assorted sizes and lids for years and years and they still come up like new, even if there has been a *cough* caramalising event going on.

They aren't cheap but I also like that they don't warp on the hob so any cooking oil stays evenly distributed instead of running into the edge.

No idea if they are up or down on the quality scale but they've done me proud for a good long while so, although they are pricey, I've never had to replace them.
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We use WMF Premium One. Ticks all your boxes except for the glass lids.
Pretty happy with them.
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Suggestions appreciated please!
Not so easy when you haven't mentioned the hob type that you use.

However, as induction is the future, I'd go for ones that work well on an induction hob. Some work better than others and some that say they work on induction barely at all.

Secondly, I'd get ones with welded on metal handles rather than plastic or worse, wood.
This way you can chuck them in the oven or dishwasher with impunity.

Your choice of course, concerning glass lids but if I need to stir something or taste it, I need to take off the lid, otherwise it can stay on so I prefer metal.

We've got some WMF ones and they are fantastic. If you are not in a hurry then quite often places have sales.

Migros also do some pretty good s/s saucepans but it's worth waiting for their half-yearly sales of them when they are on offer at half price. They're not as good as the wmf though.

We've got an old Habitat s/s frying pan which is over twenty years old and I used it last week to cook salmon with the skin on. The fish did not stick at all and the pan is as good as new.

We've got some Judge ones which are pretty good too.
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I have a Fissler Set ( Profi Collection). Excellent quality made in Germany. WMF is mostly produced in China if that makes any difference.
https://www.amazon.de/Fissler-origin...R8XB7XF&sr=8-3
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Check out the brand of Silit. I've had a set of assorted sizes and lids for years and years and they still come up like new, even if there has been a *cough* caramalising event going on.

They aren't cheap but I also like that they don't warp on the hob so any cooking oil stays evenly distributed instead of running into the edge.

No idea if they are up or down on the quality scale but they've done me proud for a good long while so, although they are pricey, I've never had to replace them.
Thanks SG I will check them out and get back to you!

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We use WMF Premium One. Ticks all your boxes except for the glass lids.
Pretty happy with them.
I keep seeing WMF and they have a large range in Galaxus. Feeback is mostly positive with some concerns over build quality. I will see if I can find any in person in Zurich.

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Not so easy when you haven't mentioned the hob type that you use.

However, as induction is the future, I'd go for ones that work well on an induction hob. Some work better than others and some that say they work on induction barely at all.

Secondly, I'd get ones with welded on metal handles rather than plastic or worse, wood.
This way you can chuck them in the oven or dishwasher with impunity.

Your choice of course, concerning glass lids but if I need to stir something or taste it, I need to take off the lid, otherwise it can stay on so I prefer metal.

We've got some WMF ones and they are fantastic. If you are not in a hurry then quite often places have sales.

Migros also do some pretty good s/s saucepans but it's worth waiting for their half-yearly sales of them when they are on offer at half price. They're not as good as the wmf though.

We've got an old Habitat s/s frying pan which is over twenty years old and I used it last week to cook salmon with the skin on. The fish did not stick at all and the pan is as good as new.

We've got some Judge ones which are pretty good too.
Electric hob currently, but like you correctly assume they need to be induction-ready too as that is the way modern kitchens are going.

Another vote for WMF then...

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I have a Fissler Set ( Profi Collection). Excellent quality made in Germany. WMF is mostly produced in China if that makes any difference.
https://www.amazon.de/Fissler-origin...R8XB7XF&sr=8-3
Hmm Fissler I think I remember seeing those and they were quite pricey. I shall do some research and then report back later...
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

It’s hard to identify a specific brand for value and quality. There are usually product lines within the brands that may or may not offer decent value and quality.

If you aren’t tied to the idea of a matching set, what about buying individual pans as you find exceptional prices and sales? High quality stainless stuff is found at the brockis from time to time. Galaxus seems a variety of brands and randomly offers heavy discounts at times.

I’ve also found cast iron, copper, and nonstick deserve a spot in a well appointed kitchen as well.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

We have been using WMF pots and pans on our induction hub for the past 8 years and they are still like new. I would highly recommend them.

The only downside to them is that the knob on the glass lid is metal and it gets hot during cooking so you need to use a towel or something when lifting the lid.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

We bought a set of Demeyere when we moved here in 2007 and had an induction range. I think they are made in Belgium. They’ve merged with Henkels/Zwillinge.

They aren’t super heavy but are robust and take a beating. Metal lids, no vents as far as I can tell. I have a small saucepan (1-2 liters), medium (3-4 liters) and a stock pot (about 8 liters) with a lid that also fits on my frying pan. (24-26 cm). The frying pan has sloped sides and is very heavy, beautiful. Since then we’ve purchased a bigger frying pan, grill pan, saucier in two sizes and a huge wok.

So easy to clean, meant to go in the dishwasher - galaxus has them, I bought most of mine in the NL, I think.

Ours are Apollo and resto range, lower end range but I think they are great anyway.
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I’ve also found cast iron, copper, and nonstick deserve a spot in a well appointed kitchen as well.
Not if you've got an induction hob.

Which is actually a good point. Having gas or an induction hob would make, IMO, a much greater difference to ones cooking ability/pleasure than the most expensive pans in the world and a halogen/ceramic/electric ring hob.

We don't have induction at the moment - our old place did. The new ones doesn't - it has glass ceramic and one of the rings is broken.

We're going to eventually get a new kitchen but at the moment I mainly use the remaining ceramic rings for simmering and a Lidl portable induction ring for everything else. )We have an Ikea one as well for a back up and that's good too).

Restaurants cook on gas and/or induction and not ceramic/halogen for a reason.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

Might be far beneath your price range/brand recognition, but the small step up from pure budget Ikea oumbärlig stuff is stainless steel. They have thick bottoms which spread the heat nicely, although I think they have a block of alu sandwiched in the base.
Only thing is they don't have glass lids.

I've had mine in constant use for over 7 years without giving them undue care. With a scrup to bring the outside back to a sheen they'd look like new. I bought them due to their all metal contruction so theres no fear of throwing them in the oven.

For a pan do you really want stainless? Why not cast iron?
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We have been using WMF pots and pans on our induction hub for the past 8 years and they are still like new. I would highly recommend them.

The only downside to them is that the knob on the glass lid is metal and it gets hot during cooking so you need to use a towel or something when lifting the lid.
Which specific range of WMF do you have?

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Restaurants cook on gas and/or induction and not ceramic/halogen for a reason.
Ahh, t'would be nice, sadly my ageing apartment kitchen is limited to glass ceramic so I have to work with what I have (and I don't want any separate stoves to fiddle with).

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Might be far beneath your price range/brand recognition, but the small step up from pure budget Ikea oumbärlig stuff is stainless steel. They have thick bottoms which spread the heat nicely, although I think they have a block of alu sandwiched in the base.
Only thing is they don't have glass lids.

I've had mine in constant use for over 7 years without giving them undue care. With a scrup to bring the outside back to a sheen they'd look like new. I bought them due to their all metal contruction so theres no fear of throwing them in the oven.

For a pan do you really want stainless? Why not cast iron?
A cast iron skillet is fine and desirable, but for pans? Modern stainless steel ones are better.
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A cast iron skillet is fine and desirable, but for pans? Modern stainless steel ones are better.

Cast iron does not go into the dishwasher.
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Re: Stainless steel cooking pot and pan set: advice needed please!

We use Le Creuset pots and they have been absolutely perfect. (We use them on an induction stove)

What is nice is that you can chuck the pot and the lid in the dishwasher.

https://www.lecreuset.ch/3-ply-3-teiliges-profitopf-set
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We use Le Creuset pots and they have been absolutely perfect. (We use them on an induction stove)

What is nice is that you can chuck the pot and the lid in the dishwasher.

https://www.lecreuset.ch/3-ply-3-teiliges-profitopf-set
Thanks but they don't seem fit the requirements I listed (lids, price for an initial full set of pans that I listed).
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It does if it's enamelled, like the Le Creuset ones mentioned.

FWIW you don't always need to pay top dollar for quality. I'm still using the copper-bottomed stainless steel pans that were bought for our "bottom drawer" before I was first married. ISTR they were branded Sitram Inox, which I think was a cheap-ish manufacturer - certainly they were cheap, around 20-odd quid for a set of 5 with lids; although inflation over ~40 years makes that meaningless, for comparison's sake at the time a basic le Creuset set was somewhere north of £150.

And some of the Le Creuset enamel pots I got later haven't lasted half as well - I've even had to throw a couple out and they were only 20-odd years old, FFS.
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A cast iron pan is probably the best way to make pizza at home.
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Which specific range of WMF do you have?


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The closest I can see to what we have on their current site is the Diadem range.
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I have a Zwilling one and the times that I put it in the dishwasher the enamel went dull and milky. I then had to season it again. I'm not sure that the harsh dishwasher cleaners are good for these pots, although it may just be mine. (Which I love and use all the time, by the way!)
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I keep seeing WMF and they have a large range in Galaxus. Feeback is mostly positive with some concerns over build quality. I will see if I can find any in person in Zurich.
Stay away from the cheap ones. I think they are only branded WMF.
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