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I don't think a glass bottle in the lake has any effect, positive or negative. If it breaks it becomes sand, but if it breaks on the beach you risk hurting a dog.
Or hurting a child. Won't someone think of the children.
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Old 22.01.2020, 13:41
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

Well, Hahnenburger - or Rubinetto - is still a common thing in many places in our part of the world.

German but the country names should be readable for everybody.
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Thank you to those who kindly indicated where one can buy Uliveto
For those who may not know about the Water and its properties, there is a link below.
https://www.uliveto.it/
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Old 23.01.2020, 12:08
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For those who may not know about the Water and its properties, there is a link below.
https://www.uliveto.it/
Properties? ughh...it's wet, inorganic, has one oxygen atom, two hydrogen and for all intents and purposes it's exactly the same as the rest of the water out there.
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Old 23.01.2020, 12:48
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Actually I found out, that pet bottles in Germany have a 15 cent deposit on them. Now I wonder: Should I really take those back to Germany next time I go there?
Seems a bit petty to me.

I tried once. The Swiss bottles had a different barcode and the German machine wouldn't accept them. Bummer.


But apparently the shops in Switzerland do get paid for the bottles they recycle.
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Old 23.01.2020, 12:54
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Actually I found out, that pet bottles in Germany have a 15 cent deposit on them. Now I wonder: Should I really take those back to Germany next time I go there?
Seems a bit petty to me.
This reminds me of a story a colleague was telling me (can't verify if its true or not). So just after the fall of communism, the beer bottles in Poland were the same and accepted for "deposit" in Germany, which happened to be higher than the cost of a beer in Poland. It was a perpetuum mobile of drinking beer for free
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Old 23.01.2020, 12:58
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I tried once. The Swiss bottles had a different barcode and the German machine wouldn't accept them. Bummer.


But apparently the shops in Switzerland do get paid for the bottles they recycle.
Oh dear, I've been terribly misunderstood. (Wonder how often that actually happens here, LOL). It didn't even cross my mind to take Swiss bottles over there and get deposit I didn't pay for them. Shame on you!

I can't believe people try such stunts

I only pondered how petty it would be to take the German bottles back next time as I noticed for the first time that they actually charge me deposit.
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Properties? ughh...it's wet, inorganic, has one oxygen atom, two hydrogen and for all intents and purposes it's exactly the same as the rest of the water out there.
You ain't got a clue! Diluted with tap water it does wonders!
You gotta get the potentisation right though.


sorry, OP. This is EF. You get the answers but as revenue for the members, there's gotta be some fun as well. Enjoy your Uliveto.
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Old 23.01.2020, 13:28
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

For those who speak German, Kassensturz of 21.1.2020 brought a report on VOSS mineral water from Norway, Fr. 7.80 the bottle, artesian - yet actually not which is why Voss may not call it that in Norway.

Funny - or actually not, depending on your attitude - to watch.
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Old 23.01.2020, 15:05
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I only pondered how petty it would be to take the German bottles back next time as I noticed for the first time that they actually charge me deposit.
'Tain't that petty... at up to 25 cents/bottle plus €1.50 for the crate, it adds up fast. And at the rate that my family ploughs through (OK, that's not ideal figurative speech) fizzy water, the Pfandsrückzahlung is an income stream that we've come to depend on!

In some cases, the deposit can be substantially more than the retail cost of the bottle of water, e.g. Gut & Günstig mineral water from Edeka @ 65 cents (total!) for six half-litre bottles... plus €1.50 deposit...

In any case, the whole point of the deposit is to encourage you to bring the bottle back for refilling or recycling. As it's technically illegal to recycle German-bought refuse in Switzerland ("garbage tourism"), you may as well call in your loan and get your money back.
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Old 23.01.2020, 15:33
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'Tain't that petty... at up to 25 cents/bottle plus €1.50 for the crate, it adds up fast. And at the rate that my family ploughs through (OK, that's not ideal figurative speech) fizzy water, the Pfandsrückzahlung is an income stream that we've come to depend on!

In some cases, the deposit can be substantially more than the retail cost of the bottle of water, e.g. Gut & Günstig mineral water from Edeka @ 65 cents (total!) for six half-litre bottles... plus €1.50 deposit...

In any case, the whole point of the deposit is to encourage you to bring the bottle back for refilling or recycling. As it's technically illegal to recycle German-bought refuse in Switzerland ("garbage tourism"), you may as well call in your loan and get your money back.
Get your point (by the way, I always chucked the German Schweppes pet bottles into the Swiss pet-collection - rather difficult to get Ginger Ale here) and I probably wasted some money over the years as I didn't know about the German deposit (I tend not to look for details on bills for money spent and just type the total into my book-keeping). I saw it, when I checked whether it is seriously true that I pay Fr. 1.45 for 1/2 liter of Coca Cola here, when it is Fr. 1.356 for a litter in Germany

I put my German bottles into a separate bag this time. What it will boil down to for me tough is: "don't start drinking Cola on regular basis now, curley, just because it is so cheap in Germany. And shoot the Cola management next time you visit the States for their price politics".

What I find interesting on the side: In Germany it seems to be necessary to work with money to get the people to have pet recycled. In Switzerland it obviously ain't.
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Old 23.01.2020, 15:43
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I checked whether it is seriously true that I pay Fr. 1.45 for 1/2 liter of Coca Cola here, when it is Fr. 1.356 for a litter in Germany
How about CHF 0.62 per litre (almost exactly half what you pay in CH), before the MWSt refund? We lucky Baslers can avail ourselves of these generous offers any time.

I wouldn't be surprised if crumpets were a) available and b) highly affordable just over the border, too!
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Old 23.01.2020, 17:37
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rather difficult to get Ginger Ale here
There's plent of Ginger Ale at COOP

https://www.coopathome.ch/en/superma...6x1l/p/4473854
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Old 23.01.2020, 18:29
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There's plent of Ginger Ale at COOP

https://www.coopathome.ch/en/superma...6x1l/p/4473854
I know I checked many times and did not see any. Checking the website due to your post, there is now.

And - to suit this thread - there is Swiss Mountain Ginger Ale as well. 80cl for Fr. 7.50 but a loooooot of packaging to justify the price. With lemon juice concentrate from Italy and Ginger flavour (flavour, not ginger, roflmal) from ....... Nigeria!

The liter by Schweppes is Fr. 3.08 ..... I'll stick with the German vor a bit more than a Euro. Schweppes, nota bene.

But thanks for the info.
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Old 24.01.2020, 15:15
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'Tain't that petty... at up to 25 cents/bottle plus €1.50 for the crate, it adds up fast. And at the rate that my family ploughs through (OK, that's not ideal figurative speech) fizzy water, the Pfandsrückzahlung is an income stream that we've come to depend on!

In some cases, the deposit can be substantially more than the retail cost of the bottle of water, e.g. Gut & Günstig mineral water from Edeka @ 65 cents (total!) for six half-litre bottles... plus €1.50 deposit...

In any case, the whole point of the deposit is to encourage you to bring the bottle back for refilling or recycling. As it's technically illegal to recycle German-bought refuse in Switzerland ("garbage tourism"), you may as well call in your loan and get your money back.
Blimey! Can you imagine what those employees earn who bottle the water, seal and label the bottle, put it in crates, load it on a truck, drive it to Edeka, unload it, stack it into the rack, check it out at the till .... plus the receipt that needs printing and then ..... last but not least ..... issuing the export papers.

Seems to me there are a lot of reasons not to buy that water. Although it's probably cheaper than a liter of tap water in Switzerland.
Yet, for people who rent: Cold tap water is free for you as long as a) you drink it and b) you get rid of it on someone elses toilet.
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Tap water is NOT free, it costs CHF 2 / 1000 liters.

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(i.e. free collection of these items, à la the free collection of paper and cardboard).
Slightly OT: cardboard will not be free rather soon.
Market price fell enormously (China stopped importing our rub...resources).
See
https://www.tagblatt.ch/ostschweiz/w...len-ld.1184972
As well as
https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/aarga...hlen-136205200
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Tap water is NOT free, it costs CHF 2 / 1000 liters.

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For you because you owe your flat.

Believe me, my cold water is payed by my landlord. Until it goes down my drain, then it's payed by me as "Abwasser" (waste water).

So sometimes I do sport that naughty smirk when I get water for my plants.
Not really worth it though, now that you told me the price. LOL.
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my cold water is payed by my landlord.
Who in turn charges you by the NK.

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Who in turn charges you by the NK.

Tom
Only if water is specifically included in the Nebenkosten. NK are essentially a payment plan for specified items; if the payments exceed the cost of the items, the excess is refunded. If water isn't specified, it can't be charged for.
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