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Uliveto Mineral Water

Anyone know if one can buy Uliveto mineral water in Zurich.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

Just turn on a tap.
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Anyone know if one can buy Uliveto mineral water in Zurich.

You can apparently buy it in Schlieren just outside Zurich so, if you have a car, you could drive there and back to pick up the water. (slight sarcasm involved there).

I hate to say this but buying mineral water shipped from other countries is so last century and a pretty bad show.
To be honest, buying mineral water at all in bottles is not really what people ought to do nowadays - especially in Switzerland.

We were in Venice for a few days last October and my son found a map with all the numerous public water taps marked on it. We didn't buy a single bottle of water whilst we were there and the Venetian authorities were positively encouraging it.

Having said that, my wife bought some bottles of Perrier over Christmas so we're guilty as charged! It's a mindset.
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You can apparently buy it in Schlieren just outside Zurich so, if you have a car, you could drive there and back to pick up the water. (slight sarcasm involved there).

I hate to say this but buying mineral water shipped from other countries is so last century and a pretty bad show.
To be honest, buying mineral water at all in bottles is not really what people ought to do nowadays - especially in Switzerland.

We were in Venice for a few days last October and my son found a map with all the numerous public water taps marked on it. We didn't buy a single bottle of water whilst we were there and the Venetian authorities were positively encouraging it.

Having said that, my wife bought some bottles of Perrier over Christmas so we're guilty as charged! It's a mindset.



A few bottles of sparkling water don't really count, if you are big consumer then makes sens to buy a Soda club machine but for occasional use buying it is the only way.



Normal still water you got to be totally brain dead to buy this in Switzerland, tap water is really good and why bother with all the crap of picking it up in a super market, hauling it home and them disposing of the empties ?
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

I don't get these single use bottles. We re-use ours all the time. Perhaps the OP should get one bottle of Uliveto, and just keep refilling it (maybe add a little soda to emulate the fizz), thereby maintaining the image they wish to project.

If you have to have fizzy water, why not get a local brand? Not "naturally" fizzy, but so what?
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...... Normal still water you got to be totally brain dead to buy this in Switzerland, tap water is really good and why bother with all the crap of picking it up in a super market, hauling it home and them disposing of the empties ?
yep, tap water even has a name in Switzerland: "Hahnenburger".
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

I like San Rubinetto water the most. You can get it at the kitchen sink.

Maybe you can get a soda stream if you want fizzy water.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

I also don't know anything about Uliveto but want to virtue signal my green credentials on a cold Sunday afternoon: I use a cold mirror to collect the steam when cooking full grain, fair trade spaghetti on a home made solar oven.
Lick the mirror to avoid using harmful detergents washing bio bamboo bowls.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

Denner should have it: https://www.aktionis.ch/deals/uliveto-mineralwasser-62

Just a note: in a few cases of bottled water like Uliveto, it's not much about the sparkling, rather about the mineral content. The taste is a little different from normal water, and it depends on what lies underground near the springs. I think it started with bottling thermal waters, and then it got bigger and bigger.
I am personally against bottled water of any sort, but in case of (true) mineral water at least there is some logic.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

If you absolutely have to have bottled water, then get in only in glass bottles. They can be recycled and wont end up in the guts of a whale. Best to use eau de robinet.
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If you absolutely have to have bottled water, then get in only in glass bottles. They can be recycled and wont end up in the guts of a whale. Best to use eau de robinet.
I'm not sure how a recyclable PET bottle gets from Switzerland (which, AFAIK, doesn't export it's rubbish - unlike many other countries) to the sea and into a whale.
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I'm not sure how a recyclable PET bottle gets from Switzerland (which, AFAIK, doesn't export it's rubbish - unlike many other countries) to the sea and into a whale.
The same way millions of tonnes of garbage make their way to the sea from thousands of inland cities.
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I also don't know anything about Uliveto but want to virtue signal my green credentials on a cold Sunday afternoon: I use a cold mirror to collect the steam when cooking full grain, fair trade spaghetti on a home made solar oven.
Lick the mirror to avoid using harmful detergents washing bio bamboo bowls.
What do you do when you wish to signal
a) how unwoke you are
or
b) how cool you are drinking only trendy water?
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I'm not sure how a recyclable PET bottle gets from Switzerland (which, AFAIK, doesn't export it's rubbish - unlike many other countries) to the sea and into a whale.
You chuck something into Lac Lemain, as many do, it ends up in the Med.

On my many walks into Nyon, along le Boiron I often fish plastic bottles out of the stream. How it gets there is completely unknown.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

And if I throw a glass bottle into Lac Leman, it probably sinks to the bottom and stays there. Not sure it's good for the enviroment, though.

If people properly dispose their rubbish, PET is not worse than glass or paper.
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I'm quite aware of the route from a river to the sea.

But that will only happen if the bottle is discarded near a water source rather than put in the recycling or rubbish sack. Is that what you lot do?

The fact that someone buys one doesn't mean that will happen automatically.

Anyway, I think all such bottles should have a deposit on them. 5CHF a bottle should do it.
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Re: Uliveto Mineral Water

Actually I found out, that pet bottles in Germany have a 15 cent deposit on them. Now I wonder: Should I really take those back to Germany next time I go there?
Seems a bit petty to me.
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Actually I found out, that pet bottles in Germany have a 15 cent deposit on them. Now I wonder: Should I really take those back to Germany next time I go there?
Seems a bit petty to me.
Only if you want to get your money back.

The deposit can be higher than 15 cents; 25 cents is usual. There's also a deposit payable on the crate (if you buy a dozen bottles crated together) and on many aluminium cans. A deposit is payable (and refundable) on anything that has a Pfand or Mehrweg logo on it. There are a few variants, but this is the most commonly seen Pfand logo:

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I'm quite aware of the route from a river to the sea.

But that will only happen if the bottle is discarded near a water source rather than put in the recycling or rubbish sack. Is that what you lot do?

The fact that someone buys one doesn't mean that will happen automatically.

Anyway, I think all such bottles should have a deposit on them. 5CHF a bottle should do it.
Who is "you lot"? Water drinkers? People who live in Switzerland? Personally, I return bottles for the refund or recycle them in appropriate bins or shops, or if none of those options are available, I throw them away in a bin (often carrying bottles quite a distance until I find a bin). But as evidenced from the crap lying in the street, many others (presumably the ones that make up "you lot") don't bother and simply toss them. They don't necessarily have to be near a river or lake to make their way to a whale's stomach, either -- many street drains lead to storm water drains which in turn lead to rivers and eventually, circuitously, to whales' stomachs.

And I fully agree, all PET bottles and aluminium cans should have a deposit on them in Switzerland, or at the very least, home-based recycling opportunities (i.e. free collection of these items, la the free collection of paper and cardboard).
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And if I throw a glass bottle into Lac Leman, it probably sinks to the bottom and stays there. Not sure it's good for the enviroment, though.

If people properly dispose their rubbish, PET is not worse than glass or paper.
I don't think a glass bottle in the lake has any effect, positive or negative. If it breaks it becomes sand, but if it breaks on the beach you risk hurting a dog.

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I'm quite aware of the route from a river to the sea.

But that will only happen if the bottle is discarded near a water source rather than put in the recycling or rubbish sack. Is that what you lot do?

The fact that someone buys one doesn't mean that will happen automatically.

Anyway, I think all such bottles should have a deposit on them. 5CHF a bottle should do it.
in Switzerland it doesn't make a difference indeed IF you throw it in an appropriate container, except that PET recycling also consumes electricity.

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Actually I found out, that pet bottles in Germany have a 15 cent deposit on them. Now I wonder: Should I really take those back to Germany next time I go there?
Seems a bit petty to me.
it can become a pretty big amount of money over time, especially if you bought it in a hard plastic crate, as that has a deposit too.

Depot on PET is not really necessary given the good recycling rate we have already. It might lower costs for public trashcans I guess, at the cost of having druggies dig up the train station trashcans all night.
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