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Old 28.01.2020, 20:42
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Re: Vegans are less intelligent than carnivores

We have a veganuary month in the canteen we go to. Some good, some things lousy, some things okish. I will definitely not eat that all the time but once in a while, same as eating fish or vegetarian it is ok.

I like eating meat once in a while!So a mix of "cuisines" is fine for me. Just donīt force me to eat vegan all the time.
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A Vegan refrains from eating meat or any animal products. They seem to enforce a cult-like behaviour in order to try and make normal people i.e. (meateaters) feel bad.Vegans appear to avoid reason and logic by yelling in the faces of anyone who refutes their life style claims. After a time of being on this diet, it seems they develop or have worsened mental problems such as Alzheimers. This occurs because their brains are so nutrient deficient from no Omega-3s or Cholesterol intake.
Personally I cannot do without my bacon, eggs, bangers and black pudding.
I find vegans are usually pretty good about taking a joke as long as it's not cheesy.
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We have a veganuary month in the canteen we go to. Some good, some things lousy, some things okish. I will definitely not eat that all the time but once in a while, same as eating fish or vegetarian it is ok.

I like eating meat once in a while!So a mix of "cuisines" is fine for me. Just donīt force me to eat vegan all the time.
Exactly, itís all personal choice. Although a pescatarian by choice since 40 years (I donít eat meat but do eat fish when I can catch or afford it - in my case only sustainably sourced), I also canít support a purely vegan diet.

But itís all down to personal choice. My daughter eats meat, no-one is forced into anything. Itís all a choice, based on your own personal preferences.

(and if you like eating pigs then thatís entirely your choice ). Just kidding.
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Agree, there is nothing worse than listening to anyone going on about their eating habits . Same as anyone going on about any other preferences in life if I think about it.

Best to get an own life, with own goals and values, so that other peoples lives are not considered a perceived threat to your own at the end of the day.
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Old 28.01.2020, 21:17
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I'm vegan sometimes ..

Like when I'm out drinking I normally just have a portion of fries or some chips.

Could I be be completely vegan, yes, I know people who are, I like the food we eat together.. Would I be, no.. And for things like milk and butter and eggs, rather than a pork chop.

I get the ethics to an extent, lets not be cruel etc..
But eggs for example, it's just a chickens period.. If we keep chickens humanely, let's eat their eggs.
On the morning after one of these drinking sessions, if you have a "hair of the dog " are you still vegan?
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Old 28.01.2020, 21:28
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Something we knew all along: vegans are not quite as intelligent as carnivores.
True, but there are more intelligent vegans than stupid ones. It's just the stupid ones are really really thick. See ecological fallacy.
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Old 28.01.2020, 22:11
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We have a veganuary month in the canteen we go to. Some good, some things lousy, some things okish. I will definitely not eat that all the time but once in a while, same as eating fish or vegetarian it is ok.

I like eating meat once in a while!So a mix of "cuisines" is fine for me. Just donīt force me to eat vegan all the time.
What's okish?

For me that goes for all food: Just don't force me to eat the same type all the time, I like to eat my way one time around the world before returning here. Even if I don't physically cross a border.
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Personally I cannot do without my bacon, eggs, bangers and black pudding.
Anybody know where I can find English bacon, black pudding and bangers for this gent?
Toad-in-hole with cippolata didnít make the grade 😶


My difficulty with veganism is when I used to organize large events and suddenly needed a vegan meal on the menu. I finally got to the point that I no longer planned a vegetarian option in a buffet, but directly worked with the chef to have complete vegan menu to make sure I had everybody covered. 😊
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Anybody know where I can find English bacon, black pudding and bangers for this gent?
Toad-in-hole with cippolata didnít make the grade 😶


My difficulty with veganism is when I used to organize large events and suddenly needed a vegan meal on the menu. I finally got to the point that I no longer planned a vegetarian option in a buffet, but directly worked with the chef to have complete vegan menu to make sure I had everybody covered. 😊
grumpy grapefruit (a member here) sells sausages and bacon from meat point (owed by an other member here) somewhere special (Viadukt Zurich) which might be far away from you, if you know what I mean.

They both got online shops though.

Black pudding in my mind is simply "Blutwurst" (I know I'm getting myself in danger for groans now) which every Migros and Coop sells twice a year (the time of "Metzgete") but of course is better from the butcher's.
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Something we knew all along: vegans are not quite as intelligent as carnivores. The gist: "Without question, veganism can cause B12 and iron deficiencies, and without question they affect your intelligence". You're welcome.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...r-intelligence

Please, let the vegan-azzis flaming begin!
Qlickbait Would be nice to get some real life data, like e.g. the data showing that vegetarians have a higher average IQ than omnivores.
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Perhaps less brain power, but much stronger as Gamechangers is showing. Beware of the movie though, it's light on the scientific context. More here
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Anybody know where I can find English bacon, black pudding and bangers for this gent?
Toad-in-hole with cippolata didnít make the grade 😶

Jimís is probably easiest for you.

You can either go to the store in Gland or St Genis or order online. The Intermarchť in St Genis also sells British bacon and sausages.

Or Meat point is based in Lausanne I believe and you can order directly from them but I think their products are also sold by Manor in the Chavannes centre.
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Re: Vegans are less intelligent than carnivores

Currently dealing with a father-in-law who refuses treatment for his macular degeneration and has decided to "go vegan" as a cure as prescribed by his homeopath.

After six months of strictly maintaining the diet, he just had his drivers license taken away...
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Currently dealing with a father-in-law who refuses treatment for his macular degeneration and has decided to "go vegan" as a cure as prescribed by his homeopath.

After six months of strictly maintaining the diet, he just had his drivers license taken away...
Sad as this situation is, you can't really blame veganism for it.
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No I cannot - I blame the charlatan homeopaths and the stupidity in believing them.
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Re: Vegans are less intelligent than carnivores

My husband's niece is vegan, she is a 21 year old undergraduate at a university near London. She became a vegan when she was about 15 at high school.

At one point she insisted on having all her own pans and crockery as the family are meat eaters, although her mum does buy vegan stuff for her when she's home from college.

However, there must be something very lacking in her diet because she was teenager with porcelain skin and shining hair, and is now an adult with lank hair and bad acne. Last time my husband visited his sister admitted she knows her daughter's hair is coming out when she brushes it. Even more worrying, a GP at college put her on Prozac a year ago as she is suffering from depression. My own feeling is this is all down to her diet being deficient in various nutrients and minerals (she also seems to consume a lot of very highly processed vegan foods). Husband also says her shoulders stoop slightly (she's very tall and was a county swimmer).

On a visit last year OH tried to engage her in conversation because he wanted to find out why she had gone vegan, she had a massive outburst and said he was picking on her. He pointed out that part of being at university is about being able to give a reasonable argument and to debate things, but she wasn't having it.

Sad thing is, she used to be very intelligent and mature, now she behaves like a moody and immature 12 year old. It's like a state of arrested development and a bit concerning.
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My husband's niece is vegan, she is a 21 year old undergraduate at a university near London. She became a vegan when she was about 15 at high school.

At one point she insisted on having all her own pans and crockery as the family are meat eaters, although her mum does buy vegan stuff for her when she's home from college.

However, there must be something very lacking in her diet because she was teenager with porcelain skin and shining hair, and is now an adult with lank hair and bad acne. Last time my husband visited his sister admitted she knows her daughter's hair is coming out when she brushes it. Even more worrying, a GP at college put her on Prozac a year ago as she is suffering from depression. My own feeling is this is all down to her diet being deficient in various nutrients and minerals (she also seems to consume a lot of very highly processed vegan foods). Husband also says her shoulders stoop slightly (she's very tall and was a county swimmer).

On a visit last year OH tried to engage her in conversation because he wanted to find out why she had gone vegan, she had a massive outburst and said he was picking on her. He pointed out that part of being at university is about being able to give a reasonable argument and to debate things, but she wasn't having it.

Sad thing is, she used to be very intelligent and mature, now she behaves like a moody and immature 12 year old. It's like a state of arrested development and a bit concerning.
Thank you so much for showing that intelligence has nothing to do with a vegan lifestyle. Was also wondering until now.
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My husband's niece is vegan, she is a 21 year old undergraduate at a university near London. She became a vegan when she was about 15 at high school.

At one point she insisted on having all her own pans and crockery as the family are meat eaters, although her mum does buy vegan stuff for her when she's home from college.

However, there must be something very lacking in her diet because she was teenager with porcelain skin and shining hair, and is now an adult with lank hair and bad acne. Last time my husband visited his sister admitted she knows her daughter's hair is coming out when she brushes it. Even more worrying, a GP at college put her on Prozac a year ago as she is suffering from depression. My own feeling is this is all down to her diet being deficient in various nutrients and minerals (she also seems to consume a lot of very highly processed vegan foods). Husband also says her shoulders stoop slightly (she's very tall and was a county swimmer).

On a visit last year OH tried to engage her in conversation because he wanted to find out why she had gone vegan, she had a massive outburst and said he was picking on her. He pointed out that part of being at university is about being able to give a reasonable argument and to debate things, but she wasn't having it.

Sad thing is, she used to be very intelligent and mature, now she behaves like a moody and immature 12 year old. It's like a state of arrested development and a bit concerning.
It has a huge impact on hormonal works and the rest of biochem. I had a kick out of it, good mood (elated) but also ate no processed food. I still had major deficiencies of calcium, good fats, b vitamins and iron. It made no sense, at the end, to refuse natural animal food while having to take unnatural supplements in heavy doses since whatever one tried to get out of plant diet wasn't no where enough or different quality, not as absorbable or efficient.

It is a great exercise though and I think it is good to try different things. I mostly eat plant food, still. It gives a great challenge to cooking and planing. And we have vegan dishes at times..but then I am glad I moved on from that. I am not such a fan of extreme diets, maybe because I tried them, frutarian and rawfood was tougher. Fads are useless. Turtles will not be saved by those who say it the most.

Cherub - sounds like your hb's mission wasn't welcome..I get her.
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Problem is that there are people who go vegan but have no clue how to maintain a properly balanced diet. I know plenty of vegetarians and these are the people who know what they are doing and they are often just chubby and healthy skinned fun people.
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The difference between vegan and vegetarian is immense. In terms of nutrients missing..

Vegans often compensate with processed stuff, vegan yoghurt, cheese..but while brain likes it, the color and texture, the added artificial calcium did not work, I absorbed almost none. I need an animal one in fatty dairy. Iron was the same, I don't uptake it from spinach, I need liver.

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