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venetian 26.04.2020 15:46

Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Hi,

I have noticed in Zurich a few independent shops, e.g. Halk Pazari Oerlikon, that are regularly opened on Sundays.

I thought this was not allowed, or maybe the rules have changed because of covid...?

Guest 26.04.2020 16:02

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
As you know, rules are often K/Cantonal. Here in NE- independent shops can open on Sunday, as long as they wo/man the shop themselves- eg owners- so they do not pressurise employees to work.

Blueangel 26.04.2020 16:03

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Maybe.
There are specific rules around employers allowing family members to work in a family business, but I feel this may be more likely as they are a food shop.

For the employer

Temporary Sunday work involves not more than six Sundays per business and calendar year, including public holidays, or Sundays work during a one-off period of three months maximum.

Temporary night and Sunday work must authorised by the canton unless the type of work is listed in Ordinance 2 to the Employment Act. Authorisation is given if there is an urgent need for the work.
https://www.ch.ch/en/working-night-or-sundays/

Guest 26.04.2020 16:05

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Our 2 local shops are opened legally every Sunday- 1 in the morning, and one late afternoon.

venetian 26.04.2020 16:17

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Thanks everybody!
I thought that Sunday openings were really taboo in CH, with the only exception of stations and airports, and in 4 years it's the first time I see it. Well, one never stops to learn! :)

Guest 26.04.2020 16:18

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Stores in Zürich can get permission to open on Sundays nothing specifically to do with Covid-19 and happening for years.

Belgianmum 26.04.2020 16:19

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Quote:

Our 2 local shops are opened legally every Sunday- 1 in the morning, and one late afternoon.
There are several family run shops around here which are open every Sunday too.

grumpygrapefruit 26.04.2020 16:52

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
As I understand it, small family shops (in ZH) can open on Sundays as long as it's only the owner or immediate family staff working, they can't have non-family staff working. I've seen quite a few small kiosk type shops open every Sunday, especially in the Niederdorf area.

araqyl 26.04.2020 21:12

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Opening hours are slowly increasing all over ... when I first moved to Zurich, most shops closed shortly after lunch on a Saturday as well as being closed on Sunday!
Now, our local Denner is open on Sunday as well ... although with part of the store blocked off (not sure why ... ).

Guest 26.04.2020 21:48

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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Originally Posted by araqyl (Post 3175980)
Opening hours are slowly increasing all over ... when I first moved to Zurich, most shops closed shortly after lunch on a Saturday as well as being closed on Sunday!
Now, our local Denner is open on Sunday as well ... although with part of the store blocked off (not sure why ... ).

Officially stores are due to Corona restrictions currently only allowed to sell essential stuff like food, drinks, hygiene, cleaning and such. Other stuff should be locked off for customers.

YuropFlyer 26.04.2020 21:50

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3175891)
As I understand it, small family shops (in ZH) can open on Sundays as long as it's only the owner or immediate family staff working, they can't have non-family staff working. I've seen quite a few small kiosk type shops open every Sunday, especially in the Niederdorf area.

The Migrolino next to Sihlstrasse is open on Sunday (and most certainly not a family business), the Coop Pronto opposite it is closed. It's down to getting a permit (which isn't impossible to get) - plenty of backeries are also open on Sunday.

Guest 26.04.2020 21:54

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 3175997)
The Migrolino next to Sihlstrasse is open on Sunday (and most certainly not a family business), the Coop Pronto opposite it is closed. It's down to getting a permit (which isn't impossible to get) - plenty of backeries are also open on Sunday.

Migrolino is often franchise, so could still be a small family business.

Guest 26.04.2020 22:16

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Baker's are traditionally family businesses and staff are family- they have always been opened on Sunday mornings for 100s of years- same as the laiterie/crêmerie (milk and cheese shop).

Garages and railway stations have special dispensation.

Island Monkey 26.04.2020 22:28

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
All the shops where I live are open on a Sunday, including Migros and Coop.... I'm very lucky! It drives me nuts when I go somewhere else and they are closed! :eek:

Guest 26.04.2020 22:34

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Personally I am very glad that employees are not forced to work on Sundays and that their Unions are protecting them.

Island Monkey 26.04.2020 22:37

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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Personally I am very glad that employees are not forced to work on Sundays and that their Unions are protecting them.
All the jobs I have ever had have required me to work Saturdays, Sundays and bank holidays. As long as I get days off, I don't really care where in the week they fall.

Guest 26.04.2020 22:47

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
As long as it is a choice, it is fine. But for families who want to spend time together, have a meal together, go for a walk together, etc- mum or dad having day off on Monday is not much good.

grumpygrapefruit 27.04.2020 10:27

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 3175997)
The Migrolino next to Sihlstrasse is open on Sunday (and most certainly not a family business), the Coop Pronto opposite it is closed. It's down to getting a permit (which isn't impossible to get) - plenty of backeries are also open on Sunday.

True, but that's the petrol station isn't it? I know they can open, and for some reason they are allowed to sell everything else they have in the shop, including alcohol.

Island Monkey 27.04.2020 10:48

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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As long as it is a choice, it is fine. But for families who want to spend time together, have a meal together, go for a walk together, etc- mum or dad having day off on Monday is not much good.
It's always a choice.... you take a job that involves weekend work... or you don't!! If you want family time at weekends, you don't go into a job that involves weekend work. Airport staff, train staff, ski instructors, doctors, nurses, police, hotel staff etc etc... how is taking a job in a shop that opens at weekends any different to these? When you take a job you accept the working hours.

Guest 27.04.2020 10:57

Re: Shop open on Sundays, is it legal?
 
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Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 3176111)
It's always a choice.... you take a job that involves weekend work... or you don't!! If you want family time at weekends, you don't go into a job that involves weekend work. Airport staff, train staff, ski instructors, doctors, nurses, police, hotel staff etc etc... how is taking a job in a shop that opens at weekends any different to these? When you take a job you accept the working hours.

At the bottom of the labour market things are not always "just a choice"


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