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Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

Hi guys. To cut a long story short, I am looking to find some non-alcoholic wine that looks and tastes like alcoholic wine (as much as possible) for my cooking.

Before anyone says that cooking takes the alcohol out of wine anyway, it does reduce it, but not as much as many people seem to think:

Source 1: https://www.finedininglovers.com/art...cohol-cook-out
Source 2: https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/AlcoholEvap.htm
Source 3:https://www.foodnetwork.com/how-to/p...cohol-burn-off

So... does anyone please have any good recommendations for deep red/white wines that look and taste (more or less) like their alcoholic brethren, along with the places to go and get it?

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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

If you really want to be sure about the alcohol, just toss the wine in a flat pan so you have a lot of surface and boil it for a few minutes, after that you can use your alcohol free wine for cooking.
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If you really want to be sure about the alcohol, just toss the wine in a flat pan so you have a lot of surface and boil it for a few minutes, after that you can use your alcohol free wine for cooking.
So just to confirm, even after reading the links provided in the OP you are stating that boiling wine "for a few minutes" removes all of the alcohol?
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So just to confirm, even after reading the links provided in the OP you are stating that boiling wine "for a few minutes" removes all of the alcohol?
Even non-alcoholic wine contains some alcohol. AFAIK it's just had enough alcohol removed to meet the criteria.

Sounds like you want grape juice.

Alcohol doesn't take that long to burn off. Depends on how much you are using and how you are cooking it though.
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

Migros Selection Moscato (white) is nice to drink. Not sure how suitable it would be for cooking and if it is available at the moment.

You might also experiment with non-alcoholic dry cider, vinegar and balsamic vinegar.

Be aware that those can contain some alcohol as well. As the reason you try to avoid alcohol is not clear they might or might not be suitable for your purposes.
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So just to confirm, even after reading the links provided in the OP you are stating that boiling wine "for a few minutes" removes all of the alcohol?
More surface/airflow allows for proper evaporation, if you keep it somewhere between 90/100 Celsius that is more than hot enough for alcohol to evaporate.

Now if you add the wine still including the alcohol to the food it takes much more time since proper evaporation becomes much harder to realise.

You could also just open the bottle, poor it in a wide open pan and let it stand for a day on room temperature.
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Migros Selection Moscato (white) is nice to drink. Not sure how suitable it would be for cooking and if it is available at the moment.

You might also experiment with non-alcoholic dry cider, vinegar and balsamic vinegar.

Be aware that those can contain some alcohol as well. As the reason you try to avoid alcohol is not clear they might or might not be suitable for your purposes.
Thanks for an actual response to my question. I will check out that wine you suggest. I am not looking for vinegar (I also researched that), I am currently looking for non-alcoholic wine that is as close to wine as possible without being alcoholic that I can go directly to a store and buy.

To everyone else, if you are not suggesting bottles of non-alcoholic wine as per the specific question, then thanks but no thanks.
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

Dump her.

She's going to be no fun if she's that uptight about alcohol.
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

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You could also just open the bottle, poor it in a wide open pan and let it stand for a day on room temperature.
Do that and tell me how much the alcohol content has changed. You might need the help of a vinometer.
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I am looking for non-alcoholic wine that is as close to wine as possible without being alcoholic.
Balsamic vinegar can be seen as concentrated wine

But here an actual alcohol free red wine:
https://www.coopathome.ch/en/wine-sp...?refCat=m_0223
and here the white
https://www.coopathome.ch/en/wine-sp...?refCat=m_0235
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

No, it's got:

Alcohol content 0.01%

Not good enough!
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

I couldn't believe the thing existed but dealcoholized wine is real. I'd guess the leftovers of making brandy and other distillates from wine should go somewhere. It would be a pity to not make a profit from them

Well, if alcohol contents matter don't forget dealcoholized wine contains less than 0.5% alcohol.

I remember some chicken with wine recipe right now. For 1 kilo of chicken you add 1 deci of real wine (14 ml or 14 grams of alcohol), then you and more or less 150gr of tomato, 150gr of onions, and 250gr mushrooms. I could call my dish chicken in dealcoholized wine sauce since the dilution of the initial 14 grams of alcohol with other ingredients and 1 hour cooking should bring alcohol content to less than 0.5% of the total by the time you serve it on the table.

Once you consider the dilution of alcohol with the rest of ingredients, the use of dealcoholized wine in cooking looks more like marketing or artistic performance than staying away from alcohol.
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

My go-to is nonalcoholic dry cider (Suure Most). It'll change the taste but it's the same *kind* of taste if that makes sense. Most alcohol-free wines I've tried are way sweet for cooking.
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Dump her.

She's going to be no fun if she's that uptight about alcohol.
Well, ramadan is important for some people I know and they are fun!

Axa, the recipe is awesome.

OP - I think it depends how much wine you need. If it is just 100/200ml, I would let the alcohol evaporate. If you need more, then maybe use those alcohol free (kids) champaignes, let them sit flat? But it is going to be too sweet and as unusable as grape juice, since grape juice is the sweetest thing I drank (right after banana juice). Wine is used for cooking due to its combination of sour and bitter tastes.

Let us know what you find, thanks.
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Balsamic vinegar can be seen as concentrated wine
It can indeed "be seen" as that yes, you are correct. However, iobjectively speaking I would not see that as a direct or ideal substitute for a bottle of wine in terms of flavour or consistency when cooking.

Thanks, I will check them out too! and feed back whether it's worth it or not in terms of taste vs working with regular alcoholic wine.
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I can see where you're coming from on this, but I can't help feeling that you may be on a fool's errand. The alcohol in wine (or beer, etc.) is an essential part of its 'taste' and will remain so through the cooking process. Yes, reducing it down to remove all the alcohol would be possible as per Edwin's idea, but in doing so you'd completely change it, and it would therefore no longer fit your 'tastes like wine' criteria.

And I'm pretty sure, from the few times I've tried it, that 'non-alcoholic wine' will also give quite a different result.

I don't think anything you do will get a 100% match, so instead I'd perhaps look at the recipe from the other direction, trying to work out what flavours are really needed and how you get them, and what flavours could perhaps be varied a little.
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Re: Non-alcoholic wine that tastes like alcoholic wine for cooking?

According to these articles:

Red wine - cherry juice
White wine - low sugar apple juice
Beer - ginger beer.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/dinin...427-story.html
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...tutes#section9

I'm surprised at cherry juice. Hmmm...
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According to these articles:

Red wine - cherry juice
White wine - low sugar apple juice
Beer - ginger beer.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/dinin...427-story.html
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...tutes#section9

I'm surprised at cherry juice. Hmmm...
Haven't you tasted coq au cherry juice?
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Haven't you tasted coq au cherry juice?
I haven't tasted coq for 40yrs, never mind cherry sauce
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According to these articles:

Red wine - cherry juice
White wine - low sugar apple juice
Beer - ginger beer.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/dinin...427-story.html
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...tutes#section9

I'm surprised at cherry juice. Hmmm...
Actually... sweet with bite... cherry juice makes sense.
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