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Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

During the lockdown I decided to rearrange our cellar. When I used to drive to England I'd stock up on all the goodies you can't normally find here, and in the tidying up found quite a few old expired items in the back of the shelves.

Marmite from 2008
Mint sauce from 2005
Heinz Beans from 1999
Heinz Tomato Soup from 2002
Fray Bentos Steak and Ale Pie from 2006*
Corned Beef, date unknown as label missing, at least circa 2002, but still tasted good.

Anyway, not being one to waste good food, I've been opening and eating the food, and had no ill effects whatsoever. Anyone else come across and eaten "expired" food?


Coincidentally I bought some from an online store recently, and discovered the meat content was much greater in the 2006 one than in the fresh one, which had a lot more gravy instead!!
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Old 01.06.2020, 13:22
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

I remember when there were no sell-by dates on anything. Only the foil milk bottle tops had the date they were filled up.

And we were the better for it - nearly no overweight people, no aids, smoking was suggested as a help for tension from doctors who themselves smoked, a pint of beer was 9d. Sell-by dates have a lot to answer for...
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Old 01.06.2020, 13:27
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There are two types of dates; Use before on perishables. You would be insane to consume long after that date and Best before. You can safely ignore the Best before provided the packaging is undamaged.
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

We have been very surprised by how far past the used by date on dairy products you can go - especially cream products and buttermilk. A recent dive into the cellar fridge found a few creme fraiche containers that were labelled as December and upon opening - no problems at all. May as well of been opening the product the day after we purchased it. Not sure if anyone else has had this happen but it certainly opened my eyes as to what was possible!
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Never have any qualms about tinned or bottled goods past their sell-by / best before dates, sometimes by years. As long as the seal is still good, the food won[t have gone off. Some products may have lost their flavour or texture, like a jar of bamboo shoots I opened recently - they weren't bad, but didn't have the crunch and zing that they should, and most of the jar was thrown away. which is very much a rarity in our house.

Dairy produce dates are very much advisory - on cheese of course it's pretty much meaningless, cream or milk will tell you when it goes off, and yes, sometimes lasts a week or two beyond its date, although unsalted butter unless very well sealed does go rancid after a while and isn't always obvious from smell alone (which is why people started to salt it in the first place).

Some dried goods and flour do sometimes develop moths or weevils after some years, although I've never quite worked out how they know to attack only the older stocks, so airtight containers should be used to increase their life, and a visual check on anything that's been in the cupboard for a while, but again, it's something that should not need a date to trigger a check. It's not as if I'm going to _not_ check if that bag of flour is still OK just because it's only been in the cupboard for a year and is still within its date.
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During the lockdown I decided to rearrange our cellar. When I used to drive to England I'd stock up on all the goodies you can't normally find here, and in the tidying up found quite a few old expired items in the back of the shelves.

Marmite from 2008
Mint sauce from 2005
Heinz Beans from 1999
Heinz Tomato Soup from 2002
Fray Bentos Steak and Ale Pie from 2006*
Corned Beef, date unknown as label missing, at least circa 2002, but still tasted good.

Anyway, not being one to waste good food, I've been opening and eating the food, and had no ill effects whatsoever. Anyone else come across and eaten "expired" food?


Coincidentally I bought some from an online store recently, and discovered the meat content was much greater in the 2006 one than in the fresh one, which had a lot more gravy instead!!
You were brave. I would have thrown everything away long time ago, under the pretext of decluterring.
I mean, I used to throw away things that were only 2 days passt their expiry date (diary products especially).

If everything, corona crisis has taught us something.....we had almost 0 food waste. I even cooked something expired, but it had a different taste. Eatable, but not very appealing. Bulgur passed its expiry date went stale. Had to add a lot of spices to fix it.

Did they taste the same? I mean not good in the sense of being eatable, but good as usual?
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

Why do you think our ancestors added spices to their food?
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Why do you think our ancestors added spices to their food?
They had no salt or sugar?
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

I'm still using salt from 1999...
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Why do you think our ancestors added spices to their food?
If you're going to trot out the old line about it being to disguise the taste of gone-off meat then you're mistaken.

Just like the most basic of spices, salt, human ancestors learnt about things that improved flavour, increased safety by acting as a preservative or helped with digestion.

Once cooked in spices, e.g. turmeric, perhaps the best-known example, meat will usually last much longer than if cooked without, as well as tasting better and being more easily digestible. If they used it to eat meat that would otherwise have been rejected then they'd have died out from food poisoning long ago.
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I'm still using salt from 1999...
Given that most of the salt we eat is actually many thousands of years old, I think you'll survive.
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I'm still using salt from 1999...
That's a mineral. It'll never decay.
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Salt often has an expiry date. Bizarre.

I was once told that this date is not for the salt, but is real for the packaging. It's the time it likely takes to become structurally unstable, for example, for the inner lining of a cardboard box of salt to start to flake off, at least microscopically.
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

I recently made spanakopita using an unopened block of feta in a tub of brine which was a year beyond it's use by date. I figured the brine would preserve it, and OH said the cheese would just be a bit more mature.
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Salt often has an expiry date. Bizarre.
This rock salt was laid down 250 million years ago. Best before next Thursday.

I've had some ten year old marmite. A foam had developed on top, but it tasted fine and the whole jar was slowly consumed.
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Re: Eating Food Well Past Sell By Date

I guess some people are more brave than I am. I once had severe food poisoning from a restaurant while vacationing in Italy. It wasn't pretty. It must have scarred my psyche, because now I'm paranoid about food poisoning.
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You sir are amazing! I flinch at even eating something more than 3 days old. Maybe I need to live a little on the wild side
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During the lockdown I decided to rearrange our cellar. When I used to drive to England I'd stock up on all the goodies you can't normally find here, and in the tidying up found quite a few old expired items in the back of the shelves.

Marmite from 2008 - 12 years ago
Mint sauce from 2005 - 15 years ago
Heinz Beans from 1999 - 21 years ago
Heinz Tomato Soup from 2002 - 18 years ago
Fray Bentos Steak and Ale Pie from 2006* - 14 years ago
Corned Beef, date unknown as label missing, at least circa 2002, but still tasted good. - 18 years ago

Anyway, not being one to waste good food, I've been opening and eating the food, and had no ill effects whatsoever. Anyone else come across and eaten "expired" food?
WTF... surely this has to be a wind-up?

if not, then it's Darwinism at it's finest.
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Still it has an best before date of feb 02 is in a plastic shake container.

Ive always wondered about the best before date on pasta. I would imagine pasta also keeps forever ?
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You sir are amazing! I flinch at even eating something more than 3 days old. Maybe I need to live a little on the wild side
Depends what it is. Sushi? No. Rock salt? Yes.
 




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