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07.08.2020, 11:46
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans
coatings for non-stick pans are generally rated only up to 260c so if you go above that they coating will degrade and fail.
for this reason, it's good to have non-coated pans for high temperature cooking.
non-stick is useful for various things e.g. crepes, omelettes but not as versatile due to the temperature limits.
a good tip for cooking on non-coated pans is to first get the pan really hot before putting in the oil. this fills in the small pores in the pan in a similar way to seasoning a pan and makes the pan non-stick for the duration of the cooking session.
i woudn't get too hung up on cooking tools, else you end up like the 'photographers' who spend more time discussing/buying equipement than actually taking photos.
you can cook well with very basic tools and is more important to practice the art of cooking rather than get fixated on kitchen gadgets.
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07.08.2020, 14:35
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | i woudn't get too hung up on cooking tools, else you end up like the 'photographers' who spend more time discussing/buying equipement than actually taking photos.
you can cook well with very basic tools and is more important to practice the art of cooking rather than get fixated on kitchen gadgets. | | | | | Completely agree with this. Get a solid set of stuff for a reasonable price and just practise cooking. Anyone recommending others should spend many hundreds or even thousands on cookware (like the frankly laughable recommendation of buying solid silver pan for 2500chf, wtf  ) are just delusional... you can get good quality stainless steel cookware sets that cover all of the basics for a couple of hundred in total that will last years.
Do people really think that many of the best home cooks in the world, especially in countries without high disposable incomes, use anything except simple and sturdy metal pots and pans to produce their magic?
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07.08.2020, 14:37
| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | Do people really think that many of the best home cooks in the world, especially in countries without high disposable incomes, use anything except simple and sturdy metal pots and pans to produce their magic? | | | | | Why don't you tell us? You clearly feel you are one of their number.
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07.08.2020, 16:01
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: |  | | | Why don't you tell us? You clearly feel you are one of their number. | | | | | Would you cook chips in a 2500 CHF pan, or just leave them on your shoulder?
Just wondering... | Quote: |  | | | I have extensive experience of Michelin star level cooking... | | | | | Why don't you tell us about your experience? I for one am always willing to learn more.
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07.08.2020, 16:03
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | Would you cook chips in a 2500 CHF pan, or just leave them on your shoulder? | | | | | Holy crap that was one brutal and funny put-down. I like. | 
07.08.2020, 16:12
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | Why don't you tell us about your experience? I for one am always willing to learn more. | | | | | "Oh Hartmoss, this was the best boiled egg I ever had"
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07.08.2020, 16:14
| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | Would you cook chips in a 2500 CHF pan, or just leave them on your shoulder? | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Holy crap that was one brutal and funny put-down. I like.  | | | | | It didn't even make sense. Clearly the only people with chips on their shoulders are you two, that someone dared to buy expensive cookware. Oh well, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that I suppose. | Quote: | |  | | | Why don't you tell us about your experience? I for one am always willing to learn more. | | | | | If you are making a geniune request, I would be happy to. How can I help?
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07.08.2020, 16:24
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: |  | | | It didn't even make sense. Clearly the only people with chips on their shoulders are you two, that someone dared to buy expensive cookware. Oh well, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that I suppose.
If you are making a geniune request, I would be happy to. How can I help? | | | | | Even if you disregard your last post which was a purely snipey comment, do you even understand the size of a chip on ones shoulder that one must have to go an dredge up a post from someone in a thrwad about shoosing art... from 10 years ago? It speaks VOLUMES about your pettiness and pent-up frustration and I genuinely find it highly amusing, especially when you are constantly trying so hard to portray a blasé character with the moral high ground inbetween these meltdowns.
I can't wait until we all find out which ex-member you really are (and if anyone finds out please let me know). | 
07.08.2020, 16:33
| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: | |  | | | Even if you disregard your last post which was a purely snipey comment, do you even understand the size of a chip on ones shoulder that one must have to go an dredge up a post from someone in a thrwad about shoosing art... from 10 years ago? It speaks VOLUMES about your pettiness and pent-up frustration and I genuinely find it highly amusing, especially when you are constantly trying so hard to portray a blasé character with the moral high ground inbetween these meltdowns. 
I can't wait until we all find out which ex-member you really are (and if anyone finds out please let me know).  | | | | | I wouldn't waste my time with that, but a member who I presume isn't your biggest fan sent me the link. Oh well. They even pointed out that the very first post you made on here complained about prices. It seems to me on balance, you like to be sensible with your money, and fair play, nothing wrong with that. But equally, you shouldn't judge others with other lifestyles either.
I'm happy to end the sniping here and get on with the thread.
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07.08.2020, 16:51
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: |  | | | I wouldn't waste my time with that, but a member who I presume isn't your biggest fan sent me the link. Oh well. They even pointed out that the very first post you made on here complained about prices. It seems to me on balance, you like to be sensible with your money, and fair play, nothing wrong with that. But equally, you shouldn't judge others with other lifestyles either.
I'm happy to end the sniping here and get on with the thread. | | | | | Come on... why would a link to that thread would bother me in the slightest? I love seeing this kind of stuff stuff as it tells me a lot about people's character and state of mind. They sent it, you posted it, it all amounts to the same thing.
Whichever way you look at it, recommending a single 2500chf solid silver pan to someone looking at a 300chf 11-piece set is just so completely bizarre as to be highly unusual and noteworthy. It's like recommending an Aston Martin DB7 to someone looking at a Prius. | 
07.08.2020, 16:54
| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans
I would say that other people probably answered the OP quite well.
However, people will search threads for info in future, and who knows who might find that info useful.
Maybe nobody, maybe only one person. It's all about the community though, isn't it?
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07.08.2020, 16:59
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| | Re: Buying advice for pots/pans | Quote: |  | | | I would say that other people probably answered the OP quite well.
However, people will search threads for info in future, and who knows who might find that info useful.
Maybe nobody, maybe only one person. It's all about the community though, isn't it? | | | | | You have my word that should I in future win the lotto I will do a forum search and buy a set of these pans. Then we will talk again on how they perform. | The following 2 users would like to thank Chuff for this useful post: | | 
07.08.2020, 17:18
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That's enough of the back-and forth, thanks. I think the OP has received enough suggestions at all sorts of price points and can make an informed choice from here. | The following 2 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | This user groans at 3Wishes for this post: | |
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