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Juice Diet/Cleanse

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Wondering if anyone here has tried the 'Biotta Wellness Woche Bio' or any other juice diet/cleanse? What were your experiences with it? Was it difficult? Did you feel better?
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

All three of my colleagues at work did it. So, I was witness and victim of the process:
- two of them stopped it, it was two hard for them
- one of them finished it, she is actually repeating it now, after almost half a year, she says she was feeling better after it.
As an observer I can say that: they looked miserable, it doesn't work as a way to lose weight.
In my opinion, and as much as I read occasionally starvation is beneficial for a body, but detox in a way that you flush a body with liquids is bullshit that can be dangerous.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

Absolutely agree that it should not be used for weight loss, I am purely investigating it as a toxic cleanse and an energy rejuvenation to kick start a healthier lifestyle.
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Absolutely agree that it should not be used for weight loss, I am purely investigating it as a toxic cleanse
How's that work then?
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How's that work then?
Beats me? According to the very little reading up about it, in my very bad german, it seems this juicing diet is meant to get rid of the bad toxins and acids in your body. Was just wondering if this really made anyone feel better and is worth not eating for 7 days, or if it is just another bullshit hype.
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Was just wondering if this really made anyone feel better and is worth not eating for 7 days, or if it is just another bullshit hype.
The latter.
That amount of acidic intake is going to make you sick if there's nothing to balance it out.
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I am purely investigating it as a toxic cleanse
Your liver is the organ in the body that flushes out toxins. If your liver is functioning well, then there is no build up of toxins. As far as reducing acids in your body - again, if it's not doing that naturally already, you are very very ill.

Whatever benefits these diets might bring - flushing out toxins and reducing acid ain't two of them.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

The most important thing is to have a balanced diet always and not just 7 days of fasting with juice per year. You don't need to "kickstart" anything, just get on with it immediately instead of going through this torture which will make you go back to old habits much faster.
At least they are honest as they don't claim any kind of detox/cleanse property.
By the way, it's not bad for your health either.
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Your body is well capable of regulating blood pH without the need to compensate with anything, unless you have some kind of disease.
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Your body is well capable of regulating blood pH without the need to compensate with anything, unless you have some kind of disease.
My brother ended up being borderline diabetic by consuming too much juice, as diagnosed by his GP and a consultant nutritionist. At the time, he was drinking 2lts per day and was a proper gym bunny because he was coaching a sports team. He only ever drinks diluted juice now.

All things in moderation.
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My brother ended up being borderline diabetic by consuming too much juice, as diagnosed by his GP and a consultant nutritionist. At the time, he was drinking 2lts per day and was a proper gym bunny because he was coaching a sports team. He only ever drinks diluted juice now.

All things in moderation.

You're probably meaning fruit juice when it comes to acidity and sugar content.



If someone gets a benefit from this plan it's unlikely (damn near impossible) that it "flushes out toxins" but rather means that you avoid salted fries, burgers and cakes and possibly consume more fibre, vitamins and minerals than you did before. It could break a carb addiction and make you think more about your diet. You don't need to go through this plan to do that but maybe for some people it suits them like a belief system.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

No, I mean extracting juice from fruit and veg.
I've been juicing on and off for about 15yrs, have been veggie for 40yrs and hate salt. Once in a very blue moon, I get a craving for salt, but go most of the time without touching it. You get more fibre from eating the whole fruit or vegetable than from juicing it. I can see no possible benefit from living on only juice for a week.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

Die somebody nick your kidneys?
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

Before I turned 40, I made a pledge to get down to my lowest body fat % ever. I made it to about 12-13%.
Shortly thereafter, I moved to Europe where I have been for 16 yrs. Cannot blame it on Europe, quality of food or anything like that. More because my job/lifestyle required constant travel and it was easy to ignore the good habits that got me to low body fat numbers.
In any case, wife and I tried juicing, vegetarian lifestyle to try to shed the 10kg I had out on over a decade. Juice fasts were hard as it seemed the sugar kept me in a constant state of hunger. “Souping” was easier.
But eventually, I found intermittent fasting, low carb to be much more effective for me. This led to keto and now I am doing full Carnivore. I lost 10kg in 6 months with NO pain. I took some time off for Thanksgiving/Christmas and gained some water weight back. A three day water fast drops that immediately. So now going for the last 2-3 kgs. For a 56yr old guy to have some serious ABS is pretty cool!
Lots of info out there about this. Jason Vale was my juicing guru. Thomas DeLaurer is a good keto guy. Some Facebook groups out there for Carnivore.
Good luck, whichever path you take!

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This led to keto and now I am doing full Carnivore. Some Facebook gr opus out there for Carnivore.
"Full carnivore?"

I just imagined people posting photos in that group of themselves devouring a zebra.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

Fresh, cold pressed juice, maybe. This stuff - not so much. Tried it years ago, would have done a full week had I not been struck down by fever, puking and shivering by day 5.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

I am two months into a low calorie, low carb, only one meal a day and then only half, happy to say amma down 20 kgs.
I call it my "Auschwitz diet" and it works for me.
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Before I turned 40, I made a pledge to get down to my lowest body fat % ever. I made it to about 12-13%.
Shortly thereafter, I moved to Europe where I have been for 16 yrs. Cannot blame it on Europe, quality of food or anything like that. More because my job/lifestyle required constant travel and it was easy to ignore the good habits that got me to low body fat numbers.
In any case, wife and I tried juicing, vegetarian lifestyle to try to shed the 10kg I had out on over a decade. Juice fasts were hard as it seemed the sugar kept me in a constant state of hunger. “Souping” was easier.
But eventually, I found intermittent fasting, low carb to be much more effective for me. This led to keto and now I am doing full Carnivore. I lost 10kg in 6 months with NO pain. I took some time off for Thanksgiving/Christmas and gained some water weight back. A three day water fast drops that immediately. So now going for the last 2-3 kgs. For a 56yr old guy to have some serious ABS is pretty cool!
Lots of info out there about this. Jason Vale was my juicing guru. Thomas DeLaurer is a good keto guy. Some Facebook gr opus out there for Carnivore.
Good luck, whichever path you take!
I had back to back foot reconstruction - 6 months on each foot - with 5 pins in each foot as well as ligament realignment. Not pretty but then, as a tennis player, my feet were never pretty. At any rate, I was out of commission for probably 20 months between both surgeries - and sadly, put on 30 pounds

Was also diagnosed with an underactive thyroid (discovered in pre-op to my surgeries) which did not help matters. I have been doing IF (intermittent fasting) for 3 + years and have taken the 30 pounds off but still have another 15 to go.

I was hopeless at the start (first 6 months) as I think I ate everything but the kitchen sink on fasting days when I ended my fast. But over time, I learned to listen to my body and I swear my stomach shrank as I cannot eat as much at one sitting as I used to.

I followed Brad Pilon's protocol "Eat Stop Eat". It is a lifestyle not a diet but there are other IF protocols out there. It helped me but I still have work to do

That said, exercise was never an issue for me as I crave it. More important for me is/was what I eat and when I eat...
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

I remember when weekend cleanses were all the rage in the 80s and trying it out. You started on Friday night and went through until Sunday night. It involved living on clear soup and having one very small meal a day of salad or steamed green veg with a very small piece of fish or chicken. I lost 6 lbs during the course of the weekend, felt lethargic, light headed with a stinking headache and when it came to going back to work on Monday morning I felt like sh1t

I couldn't do a juice diet as I had my gall bladder removed back in 2014, so I now process some foods differently and have to be careful as I can get bile acid malabsorption from time to time - a bit like IBS and it has you reaching for Immodium Instants. I don't get it often but never go anywhere without them in my handbag.
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toxic cleanse
your kidneys and the rest of the body, including the skin is pretty good at cleaning the toxins out of your body. If they are not doing a good job, juices are not gonna help. If they are doing a good job, how are juices going to help? May be if you only drink vodka all the time, you can drink juice to give some rest to the poor body, but therwise...

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From the massive amount of sugar which is not even bound by fibres so that it releases slowly?

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kick start a healthier lifestyle.
You have fallen hook line and sinker for the jargons of this pseudo science of detoxing. If you want to start a healthier lifestyle, start small. its like long distance running, not a bike ride or a sprint. Start with a 12 hour fast maybe. Just skipping the breakfast will drive you insane in the first weeks because its your mind you are fighting against.
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Re: Juice Diet/Cleanse

I don't calorie count and eat tons of food, just try to keep it nutritional and healthy. I avoid useless calories. Have never fasted or gone on fad diets. I always keep an eye on my weight and the mirror, if it goes 3kgs up, I bring it back down instantly. Everyone in my family is overweight.

When I was running a lot of kms a week + training in the gym, I was 59-62kgs. I have not run for a year due to injury, so was worried that not being able to run might increase my weight. I kept doing the gym part, and ate exactly the same, and I am luckily still at 62kgs

I don't juice because losing all that fibre is silly, but I do take healthy smoothies on hard gym days, on top of my regular food.

Healthy bodies are made in the kitchen mainly and not in the gym. Yes, I eat carbs too as your body needs it! Good carbs vs bad carbs.
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