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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

I still have the cast iron pot I bought at Blokker in Leiden in 1995.

We've also still got the Le Creuset pots we got for our wedding in 2000 - with the exception of the Marmitout which had too many chips out of the enamel. Otherwise the heavy frying pan, the tagine and the small casserole pot are still going strong.
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Old 17.01.2021, 17:07
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The most important thing to know is that the Dutchie must be passed on the left hand side
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

I own just one Lecruset, the others are different fakes, but after reading this article I got some a lot of respect for the company that still produces orginal products in traditional way in original factory.
If you go just for a low price, every French supermarket (i.e. Carrefour) have some orange - red copies, same as often Aldi.
If you go for design one, there are some Nordic and Japanese stuff that is even pricier.

btw. there is a small, exclusive LeCruset shop in Luzern (they are also in other swiss cities) with amazing, huge pot, probably 30l, I sometimes pass buy just to enjoy the window shopping.
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

One word of advice: I've had different sizes and the last one that I ordered was 28cm. I hadn't realised how large that actually was, but in reality I'm really glad. You can make smaller dishes in a large pot, but cannot make large dishes in a smaller pot.
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If you go just for a low price, every French supermarket (i.e. Carrefour) have some orange - red copies, same as often Aldi.
Yes, these are the sort I alluded to earlier, that just don't have the durability of the Creuset ones. Then again, at a third of the price, if they last a third of the time...
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

I got a Römertopf for Christmas (clay pot). Also great for stews, roasts and other dishes.

But I've asked for a Dutch oven for my birthday.
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I got a Römertopf for Christmas (clay pot). Also great for stews, roasts and other dishes.
We also have one, plus a couple soapstone pots.

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I bought a Creuset 'copy' 44 years ago in the Oxford Debenhams sale.... still going strong after all that time so cheaper certainly doesn't necessarily mean a shortened life.
Used it at least once a week for all that time and it only has one tiny chip on the lid, slight discolouring inside but that's normal for enamel.
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I own just one Lecruset, the others are different fakes, but after reading this article I got some a lot of respect for the company that still produces orginal products in traditional way in original factory.
If you go just for a low price, every French supermarket (i.e. Carrefour) have some orange - red copies, same as often Aldi.
If you go for design one, there are some Nordic and Japanese stuff that is even pricier.

btw. there is a small, exclusive LeCruset shop in Luzern (they are also in other swiss cities) with amazing, huge pot, probably 30l, I sometimes pass buy just to enjoy the window shopping.
Thanks for that article, it was very interesting - especially the picture of railroad tracks that become pots!

I found a video with a story that M6 French TV show "Capital" ran on the "cocottes" renaissance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srmhI0-4bi0

Dutch ovens had become passé in the 80s. Staub revived them in the 90s by sending them to top French chefs of the time.
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I once gave Mrs Parker a Dutch oven but she didn't like it.
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I once gave Mrs Parker a Dutch oven but she didn't like it.
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Only get enamelled cast iron as it has much better cooking and heat retention properties than aluminium!



This is the only advantage right? You heat the pot and when you put your stuff in it doesn't cool down so much. If you're not bringing food in direct contact with the pot then you may as well have any old casserole dish?
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A real Dutch oven has three legs for setting above hot campfire coals, and an indented lid for piling coals on top. Cast iron. Great for peach cobbler.
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This is the only advantage right? You heat the pot and when you put your stuff in it doesn't cool down so much. If you're not bringing food in direct contact with the pot then you may as well have any old casserole dish?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean with the "don't bring food into direct contact with the pot" part, but generally I would use any casserole dish to cook as long as it's cast iron (heat properties) and enamelled (non-stick-ish and easy to clean and avoids any rusting).
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I looked at the Aldi one, but it's aluminum, not iron. So probably not as good.

And I went to my local Coop City yesterday but unfortunately they didn't have any interesting offers yesterday. I'll have another look tomorrow (luckily the Federal government considers kitchen utensils are essential merchandise )
HI Major!
They exist...
https://www.aktionis.ch/deals/crofto...s-gusseisen-31

and

https://www.aldi.co.uk/3-piece-red-c...08493432693800

but they come to Switzerland only twice or thrice per year....and I guess you have to be lucky to get them. I usually pull for the Frogs, but I make an exception in Le Creuset, as it is owned by a South African :-D :-D :-D
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(That's "Cocotte" in French, "Schmortopf" in German.)

Does anyone here use those heavy and pricey yet widely-admired cast-iron pots? Are they Le Creuset or other brand? Where did you buy them? Are they really better than an ordinary stock pot?

Thanks in advance.
Yes. We have a Zwilling enamelled cast iron oval pot and it is one of the best things we bought. I always admired Le Creuset products but they're quite expensive and there are cheaper alternatives. But I do get those who invest more in this sort of stuff.
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A real Dutch oven has three legs for setting above hot campfire coals, and an indented lid for piling coals on top. Cast iron. Great for peach cobbler.
At a 4H summer school one year I took a whole afternoon class on fire cooking outdoors with these types of pots and live coals. The teachers were brave to let a bunch of preteens loose on live fire, but I absolutely adored it. If ever I can find pots like this without breaking the bank, I will refuse to bring the gas stove camping xD I have great memories from that class.
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