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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

And in the spirit of giving back to the forum:

Right now the best price for a Le Creuset 26 cm Dutch oven is at Amazon Italy: it's available in orange for €194.49 (35% off), which end up being €171.70 (CHF 185.30) delivered to Switzerland.

In case anybody is interested
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And in the spirit of giving back to the forum:

Right now the best price for a Le Creuset 26 cm Dutch oven is at Amazon Italy: it's available in orange for €194.49 (35% off), which end up being €171.70 (CHF 185.30) delivered to Switzerland.

In case anybody is interested
And hubs and I got an amazing deal at the Le Creuset store at the Foxtown Outlet not too long ago... never pay full price if you can!
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(That's "Cocotte" in French, "Schmortopf" in German.)

Does anyone here use those heavy and pricey yet widely-admired cast-iron pots? Are they Le Creuset or other brand? Where did you buy them? Are they really better than an ordinary stock pot?

Thanks in advance.
Thank you for that thread, you made me revive my cast iron pot. I got a huge one which I admit is living in the cellar as it's simply too big for daily use. I got an other one a few years ago of a size that fits my needs. This one is a le Creuset and I bought it in an expensive specialized household-store but that it not necessary.
Since you reminded me I've used it about once a week, making stews and curries, absolutely loving it and actually eating more veggies than normally. I remember I used to make bread in it as well.

Today I finally ordered a cast iron frying pan and can't wait to try making rotis again, something an Indian client tried to teach me and in spite of it looking so simple I never managed to get them right. I believe this pan will solve my problem by giving the necessary heat and evenly.
Not to mention decent frying of a nice piece of meat.

I did some research and came to the conclusion to go for cast iron (Gusseisen) and not for wrought iron (Schmmiedeisen) for various reasons.

However, thanks for your question it has inspirited my menus And yes, get one in a size that makes sense for you and you'll love it.

PS: I have an open kitchen-living room and I find that using all my wild spices is very different in the cast iron pot. The smell does not get as strong = doesn't linger. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

Ten years ago I bought a cast iron casserole for the US house because my 25-year-old Le Creuset resided in Alsace. I've used that $45 Wally World casserole all this time, with nary a craze or chip on the thick enamel. It distributes heat beautifully, although it does demand more attention than a crock pot. Like Curley, I have noticed that even when I leave the kitchen door open and use some pretty violent spices, it doesn't seem to smell as strongly; maybe that's down to the heaviness of the iron lid?
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In its first couple weeks, I've made several recipes, with great results:

Garlic & Herb Dutch Oven Bread

Traditional French Pot Roast Chicken

And the most satisfying, Julia Child's boeuf bourguignon (vintage video here).

Regarding the Nouvel Dutch oven that they sell at Manor, note that it is slightly different from the picture on the website. Mainly, the outside of the lid is smooth, not ridged:

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Old 08.02.2021, 22:01
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

In case anyone is interested, I noticed that DeinDeal is currently offering Staub Dutch Ovens. This thread inspired me to get my Kuhn Rikon Dutch oven out and I have been happily using it a fair bit over the last couple of weeks. I had quite forgotten I owned one.
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In case anyone is interested, I noticed that DeinDeal is currently offering Staub Dutch Ovens.
Oh no ... why did you have to tell me? Actually...I am very happy you did. Thanks!
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......And the most satisfying, Julia Child's boeuf bourguignon (vintage video here).....
Some very interesting bits of information in that vintage video!

I laughed at her taking a spoon full of sauce, put it in her mouth and .... pour the rest in the spoon back into the pan. (she changed that system later in the video, maybe she was told. LOL).
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Some very interesting bits of information in that vintage video!

I laughed at her taking a spoon full of sauce, put it in her mouth and .... pour the rest in the spoon back into the pan. (she changed that system later in the video, maybe she was told. LOL).
I adore Julia Child ... I have her Master of French Cooking book and use it often. Not for those with cholesterol problems ... but I can highly recommend.

Her biography "My Life in France" is also a great read.
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

If you live near France, starting today Intermarché has a 6.5 l cast-iron cocotte for €22.99.

It is shown in green but different colours are available.
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Old 09.02.2021, 19:11
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..... Today I finally ordered a cast iron frying pan and can't wait to try making rotis again, something an Indian client tried to teach me and in spite of it looking so simple I never managed to get them right. I believe this pan will solve my problem by giving the necessary heat and evenly. .....
It worked! It actually worked!

My rotis blew up - not as big as a balloon, next time I hope - but they were super.

Funny how the most complicated things can be solved easily and things that seem easy for everybody else take years to solve.
Needless to say, I very much enjoyed today's lunch.
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

On March 1, Lidl will have a cast-iron cocotte for CHF 49.90.

- Long-lasting enamel coating inside and outside
- Oven resistant up to 240 °C
- All hobs, including induction

Size isn't listed but from the picture it seems oval-shaped:

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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

Cocottes at half price at Migros:

- 24.5 cm for 34.95.-

- 31 cm for 45.-

If they aren't in stock locally, you can order through micasa.ch and pick them up in store.
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Re: Dutch oven - casserole dish

I just got to mention that for many things Dutch, you can just get them from Wolfram at the Hollandische Ladeli in Adliswil (bit below Zurich):

https://hollaendische-laedeli.com/


They have all the goodies you do not want....... Poffertjes (including the pans), Bitterballen, Kroketten, Frikandellen, .... https://hollaendische-laedeli.com/bitterballen-2/ yeah..... the list is long, and it is so good, but so bad for the belly

And for things they normally do not carry, you can always ask as they might accidentally take it along on the next run.
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They have all the goodies you do not want....... Poffertjes (including the pans), Bitterballen, Kroketten, Frikandellen, .... https://hollaendische-laedeli.com/bitterballen-2/ yeah..... the list is long, and it is so good, but so bad for the belly
O no, Bitterballen love them and haven't had them for ages...looks like a little trip is on the horizon.

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I just got to mention that for many things Dutch, you can just get them from Wolfram at the Hollandische Ladeli in Adliswil (bit below Zurich):

https://hollaendische-laedeli.com/


They have all the goodies you do not want....... Poffertjes (including the pans), Bitterballen, Kroketten, Frikandellen, .... https://hollaendische-laedeli.com/bitterballen-2/ yeah..... the list is long, and it is so good, but so bad for the belly

And for things they normally do not carry, you can always ask as they might accidentally take it along on the next run.
Oh yes, don't I know that shop! I always leave it packed with goods.

But to be honest, in the Dutch oven I make all things not Dutch.
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I just got to mention that for many things Dutch, you can just get them from Wolfram at the Hollandische Ladeli in Adliswil (bit below Zurich)
Are Dutch ovens actually Dutch though?
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What do you mean? Production place? The method itself is ancient. This is how Roman soldiers (for instance) cooked their food, baked bread. It was a pottery piece back then and the lid/pot was called "testum".
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As far as I understand, only for English speakers*, as in other languages there is no connection with Dutch:
cocottes, Feuertöpfe, Ofentopf, Kochtopf, etc
or? I could be wrong, I am not native speaker in French or German.

*And Wikipedia says this: "They are called casserole dishes in English-speaking countries other than the United States".

I also don't remember that word from cooking books. I am just now looking in the "The River Cottage Meat Book" and the author, Whittingstall is always using word "casserole". But he mentioned it in the book, as to use it with open fire, in which case all those nice casseroles with enamel would be destroyed.
EF is actually the place where I heard this word used a lot, otherwise it would be just a trivia for me.
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