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Re: alcohol free drinks - recommendations?

Anyone have any recommendations for alcohol-free wine (red and white) that tastes enough like the alcoholic version to experiment with for cooking? I tried the Syrah from Coop and it was ok, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows any good alternatives. https://www.coop.ch/en/wine/wine-ass...s/p/1013894001
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Anyone have any recommendations for alcohol-free wine (red and white) that tastes enough like the alcoholic version to experiment with for cooking? I tried the Syrah from Coop and it was ok, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows any good alternatives. https://www.coop.ch/en/wine/wine-ass...s/p/1013894001
Depending on what you are cooking, can't you just boil the alcohol out of the wine. It only needs 78'C.

I'm not aware of any red/white wine recipes that don't involve cooking it to some extent.
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Depending on what you are cooking, can't you just boil the alcohol out of the wine. It only needs 78'C.

I'm not aware of any red/white wine recipes that don't involve cooking it to some extent.
It takes a while

"Time Cooked at Boiling point of alcohol Approximate Amount of Alcohol Remaining
15 minutes 40 percent
30 minutes 35 percent
One hour 25 percent
Two hours 10 percent
Two and one-half hours 5 percent

The takeaway: For individuals in recovery, women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, and those who choose not to drink for religious, health or other reasons, all of the alcohol does NOT burn off. They may need to opt-out of holiday recipes that include alcohol as an ingredient. And, for those of us toasting in the holiday, some sauces may be contributing more to our blood alcohol levels than we realize."

https://www.isu.edu/news/2019-fall/n...it-really.html
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It takes a while

"Time Cooked at Boiling point of alcohol Approximate Amount of Alcohol Remaining
15 minutes 40 percent
30 minutes 35 percent
One hour 25 percent
Two hours 10 percent
Two and one-half hours 5 percent

The takeaway: For individuals in recovery, women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, and those who choose not to drink for religious, health or other reasons, all of the alcohol does NOT burn off. They may need to opt-out of holiday recipes that include alcohol as an ingredient. And, for those of us toasting in the holiday, some sauces may be contributing more to our blood alcohol levels than we realize."

https://www.isu.edu/news/2019-fall/n...it-really.html

No wonder my daughter loves my pasta sauce! Whoops!
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It takes a while

"Time Cooked at Boiling point of alcohol Approximate Amount of Alcohol Remaining
15 minutes 40 percent
30 minutes 35 percent
One hour 25 percent
Two hours 10 percent
Two and one-half hours 5 percent

The takeaway: For individuals in recovery, women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, and those who choose not to drink for religious, health or other reasons, all of the alcohol does NOT burn off. They may need to opt-out of holiday recipes that include alcohol as an ingredient. And, for those of us toasting in the holiday, some sauces may be contributing more to our blood alcohol levels than we realize."

https://www.isu.edu/news/2019-fall/n...it-really.html
Not sure about Chuff but most recipes I do which have a large amount of alcohol are cooked for longer than two and a half hours (beef bourguignon, ragu etc).

Even for a risotto, I doubt the trace amount of alcohol left would be harmful at all to a pregnant woman though I doubt Chuff fits into that category.
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Anyone have any recommendations for alcohol-free wine (red and white) that tastes enough like the alcoholic version to experiment with for cooking? I tried the Syrah from Coop and it was ok, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows any good alternatives. https://www.coop.ch/en/wine/wine-ass...s/p/1013894001
What are you cooking?

Since most of my alcohol-free cooking is for friends who do not consume due to deeply held personal belief, I find it easier/safer to substitute another ingredient altogether.

Depending on the recipe, I might use an aged balsamico in place of a heavy red wine, or I might use juniper berries in something calling for gin, or I might use lemon, lime, soft cider, or white balsamico for things calling for a white wine. (And with all the above, obviously adjust spices, stock accordingly.)

It really depends on the recipe.

I tidbit I remember from one of the 80s era cooking shows has stuck with me all these years: If you wouldn't want to drink it, don't cook with it. Find something altogether different to use if you don't want to cook with wine.
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I tidbit I remember from one of the 80s era cooking shows has stuck with me all these years: If you wouldn't want to drink it, don't cook with it. Find something altogether different to use if you don't want to cook with wine.
Not sure that I agree with that.

There are many reasons why you may not want to consume alcohol as part of a meal but really enjoy the taste of a properly cooked beef bourguignon.

If I wanted to be totally flippant, I could also argue that I'm fine to cook with cooking oil but I wouldn't want to drink it!
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What are you cooking?

Since most of my alcohol-free cooking is for friends who do not consume due to deeply held personal belief, I find it easier/safer to substitute another ingredient altogether.

Depending on the recipe, I might use an aged balsamico in place of a heavy red wine, or I might use juniper berries in something calling for gin, or I might use lemon, lime, soft cider, or white balsamico for things calling for a white wine. (And with all the above, obviously adjust spices, stock accordingly.)

It really depends on the recipe.

I tidbit I remember from one of the 80s era cooking shows has stuck with me all these years: If you wouldn't want to drink it, don't cook with it. Find something altogether different to use if you don't want to cook with wine.
Thanks mel, but I am only interested in recommendations for alcohol-free wine, which I am newly experimenting with to see if I can find a reasonable substitute for alcoholic red wine. However if the experiment fails then I will consider your advice.
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Time Cooked at Boiling point of alcohol
Most cooking will happen 10-20°C higher.
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Anyone have any recommendations for alcohol-free wine (red and white) that tastes enough like the alcoholic version to experiment with for cooking? I tried the Syrah from Coop and it was ok, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows any good alternatives. https://www.coop.ch/en/wine/wine-ass...s/p/1013894001

Hi Chuff,
Some of my alcohol-free friends that have tried reds liked this:
https://alcfree.ch/detail/b19523f0a8...50e77acdd542ce


and there is a good selection of reds here:
https://www.alkoholfreishop.ch/alkoh...wein/f/trocken


I havent tried them though, the alcohol-free, gluten-free beer someone posted above really worked for me on this challenge.


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Hi Chuff,
Some of my alcohol-free friends that have tried reds liked this:
https://alcfree.ch/detail/b19523f0a8...50e77acdd542ce


and there is a good selection of reds here:
https://www.alkoholfreishop.ch/alkoh...wein/f/trocken


I havent tried them though, the alcohol-free, gluten-free beer someone posted above really worked for me on this challenge.


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Thanks marm, super useful! The reason I am looking for a decent 0% wine to cook with is because I have an Instant Pot (pressure cooker) and alcohol (or liquid in general) does not evaporate in an IP like in the oven, so if you put any significant amount of wine in then you end up with something noticeably alcoholic. The oven is of course better, but nowhere near as practical for those times you need something quick and dirty.
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Re: alcohol free drinks - recommendations?

@Chuff, I cooked tonight's dinner using Rimuss Bianco dry alcohol-free, which I picked up at the Coop.


https://www.rimuss.ch/en/products/rimuss-bianco-dry/


It still is vaguely sweet, but had much more of a wine taste than any other alcohol-free white I've tried. I offset the sweetness by using healthy amounts of garlic, onion, bacon, and parmasean cheese. Was overall pleased with the result.


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@Chuff, I cooked tonight's dinner using Rimuss Bianco dry alcohol-free, which I picked up at the Coop.


https://www.rimuss.ch/en/products/rimuss-bianco-dry/


It still is vaguely sweet, but had much more of a wine taste than any other alcohol-free white I've tried. I offset the sweetness by using healthy amounts of garlic, onion, bacon, and parmasean cheese. Was overall pleased with the result.
Sounds good, thanks Bossa!
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Re: alcohol free drinks - recommendations?

Not in answer to Chuff - just the thread in general.

Coop sells alcohol-free craft beers from Lola - there is a IPA and a “Witbier” - both of which I quite like. I make sure to pour them into a proper craft beer goblet to get a sense of occasion.

Slightly OT. On a visit to The Netherlands in 2020 I was coincidentally on the wagon for 2 months due to medication. The Albert Heijn (standard supermarket) near where we stayed had a whole series of shelves dedicated to Belgian and Dutch trappist-style alcohol-free beers, and really good ones.

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Coop sells alcohol-free craft beers from Lola - there is a IPA and a “Witbier” - both of which I quite like.
The IPA is very good, but I prefer Erdinger to their Witbier.
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Not in answer to Chuff - just the thread in general.

Coop sells alcohol-free craft beers from Lola - there is a IPA and a “Witbier” - both of which I quite like. I make sure to pour them into a proper craft beer goblet to get a sense of occasion.
Out of the alcohol free beers I've tried Chopfab Bleifrei is my personal favourite, but their Hell is my go to "normal drinking" beer and something I would genuinely miss if I left Switzerland.


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The IPA is very good, but I prefer Erdinger to their Witbier.
I'm sick of the sight of Erdinger alcohol free beer. Seems to be handed out at the end of most of the triathlons and runs that I do. All I want at the end of the race is a real beer!!!
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Coop sells alcohol-free craft beers from Lola - there is a IPA and a “Witbier” - both of which I quite like. I make sure to pour them into a proper craft beer goblet to get a sense of occasion.
I'm ashamed to agree with Lola bier.

One of my colleagues was pregnant at the time and brought the wheat beers to the apèro, it tastes better than other alcohol-free beers and surprisingly better than other normal beers.
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https://sentiaspirits.com/ will ship to Switzerland by the look of it.
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Peppermint juice with mineral water
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I'm ashamed to agree with Lola bier.

One of my colleagues was pregnant at the time and brought the wheat beers to the apèro, it tastes better than other alcohol-free beers and surprisingly better than other normal beers.
I just wanted to post a comment on Lola but will only say that I second this - my favorite non-alcoholic beer option in Switzerland.

This in particular: https://www.coop.ch/en/food/drinks/b...beer/p/6461428
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