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Old 06.06.2021, 19:25
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Re: Pregnancy and Chocolate - is it safe to eat here?

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It wasn't that specific one, but it was a Gruyeres one. It definitely, definitely did not say pasteurised on it. It just said, "Lait entier" (I'm not an idiot - I can read! ).
Normally, to make yogurt one heats it to 90C, thus pasteurizing it if is wasn't already.

"Lait entier' means whole milk, NOT "raw milk".

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Re: Pregnancy and Chocolate - is it safe to eat here?

Yogurt in Switzerland is made of pasteurized milk, why? Because of the process, for yogurt you need a yogurt culture to thrive, and to avoid unwanted competition, you first have to kill to original culture, which would make ordinary sour milk. At the same time heating the milk to 85°C you do denaturation it, which gives better results (smooth yogurt). I guess you don't write pasteurized on the yogurt because it is not needed.


here is in german, from Swissmilk.ch


how the yoghurt is made, on Wiki



Fermented products are usually very safe, because trough millenniums we learned which bacteria thrive in which environment and spoiled food is easily recognized.
Long time ago I was told that yogurt is one of the safest food to eat anywhere, even in places with bad hygiene. Because the yogurt culture will not grow in contaminated environment.


You asked quite simple questions, so some made simplified answer, I don't think there is need to be offended by that.
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No, I said I was NOT anxious about my pregnancy (read it again). And being paranoid about what I am eating is not the same as being anxious. I just wanted some answers on chocolate, not the influx of advice (unasked for) from several people about all manner of things surrounding pregnancy, including some patronising comments and assumptions, like that this is my first child.

Anyway, thanks for the responses about the chocolate, but I'd like to point out that I am not an idiot and I know cooked products are fine. I just don't know how chocolate is made. Again, I find your comments about knowing that cooked products are fine fairly patronising, but thank you anyway for your input.
Sorry...I guess we don't always know how we come across here.. Folks tried to help, not irritate. There's not always the time or the patience to filter every little sentence and thought here...but good intentions are present. At least on this thread.
Everyone makes mistakes. Wish you all the best!
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Old 06.06.2021, 21:13
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No, I said I was NOT anxious about my pregnancy (read it again). And being paranoid about what I am eating is not the same as being anxious. I just wanted some answers on chocolate, not the influx of advice (unasked for) from several people about all manner of things surrounding pregnancy, including some patronising comments and assumptions, like that this is my first child.

Anyway, thanks for the responses about the chocolate, but I'd like to point out that I am not an idiot and I know cooked products are fine. I just don't know how chocolate is made. Again, I find your comments about knowing that cooked products are fine fairly patronising, but thank you anyway for your input.
Every time you try to defend yourself, you actually make it worse in that you keep scolding us about being patronising. I don't see how anyone can really offer any advice without worrying about using a wrong word or sentence that might further offend you.
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No, I said I was NOT anxious about my pregnancy (read it again). And being paranoid about what I am eating is not the same as being anxious. I just wanted some answers on chocolate, not the influx of advice (unasked for) from several people about all manner of things surrounding pregnancy, including some patronising comments and assumptions, like that this is my first child.

Anyway, thanks for the responses about the chocolate, but I'd like to point out that I am not an idiot and I know cooked products are fine. I just don't know how chocolate is made. Again, I find your comments about knowing that cooked products are fine fairly patronising, but thank you anyway for your input.
I like how polite and patient you are. Don't sweat it - you are the lucky one, expecting! Enjoy it and let us know if you need anything else, you may catch us on a better day
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