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Living as a vegan around Geneva

Hia!

Thanks all those who've been helping me consider and plan a move to Switzerland

Next question: how easy / common / tolerated is it to live as a vegan?

I'm currently in Finland, which is brilliant - half the population is lactose intolerant and most of them are environmentally-minded, so vegan meals and products are everywhere. But I've also lived in parts of France where it's unheard of, and in Australia where it varies wildly depending on which state / city / postcode you're in.

Here are some of my favourite things - how likely am I to be able to keep buying them in Canton Vaud?

Dairy-free yoghurt - Oatly Turkish Oatgurt is the best!

Chocolate - nothing compares to Vego

Pesto - any green pesto without the dairy, don't care about brand

Flavoured soy milks (the only thing for a hangover!) - chocolate, strawberry, banana...

Fully vegan takeaways from restaurants - especially anything with tofu, seitan etc.

What do you reckon?
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

We recon you start eating some good meat. It'll be over soon as Gates and Co. are going to convert the planet to lab protein. and insect protein.
It's your last chance to taste some real bbq.
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

You will have no problems around Geneva, there are plenty of choices in both supermarkets & restaurants.

Actually everything on your list is available.
Oatley just started to be available at Coop & Migros. So far I have only seen the oat drink,
but plenty of other brands around.
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

I'm going to assume by vegan you mean not eating products directly derived from animals, otherwise you're going to be in for a very tough time anywhere.
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

You will have no problems eating vegan in Geneva.
After the house, the cat and vegan, I do wonder your next thread. Yoga classes?
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

Maybe she'll be asking if in Vaud she can find some organic fairtrade modal-coton vegan knickers ?

I dont know..If I'm a young person, that owns 2-3 houses, some fancy .org is to employ me I dont even have to do the crappy bureaucracy waiting for 2h in the no A/C Gemeinde , have lovely family just over the border (in france) and I'll be looking for vegan juice if/when I come , I mean, really????

and even, if there's no pesto, oats , soyamatchalatté , you'll eat what's there to eat !
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Maybe she'll be asking if in Vaud she can find some organic fairtrade modal-coton vegan knickers ?

I dont know..If I'm a young person, that owns 2-3 houses, some fancy .org is to employ me I dont even have to do the crappy bureaucracy waiting for 2h in the no A/C Gemeinde , have lovely family just over the border (in france) and I'll be looking for vegan juice if/when I come , I mean, really????

and even, if there's no pesto, oats , soyamatchalatté , you'll eat what's there to eat !
What is your problem?
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva



It's OK - in 34 years of being "that weird veggie chick" I've heard worse

Thanks for both the tips and the humour!
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We recon you start eating some good meat. It'll be over soon as Gates and Co. are going to convert the planet to lab protein. and insect protein.
It's your last chance to taste some real bbq.
Oy, simmer down.

As long as she doesn't feed her cat a vegan diet, it's up to her and I understand the choice, even if I'm not quite able to make it myself.
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I dont know..If I'm a young person, that owns 2-3 houses
Although I should point out that "owning" houses isn't quite an accurate reflection... the UK house has been in negative equity for 14 years and the Finnish one is 80% owned by Nordea bank...
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You will have no problems around Geneva, there are plenty of choices in both supermarkets & restaurants.

Actually everything on your list is available.
Oatley just started to be available at Coop & Migros. So far I have only seen the oat drink,
but plenty of other brands around.
For your information: Coop and Migros are the most popular (as in have most shops all over the place) stores. Their competition has tradition and when one opens a new shop, the other usually opens one max. 2 blocks away from it.

So when Sigh says something is available in Coop and Migros it means; No problem.
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and even, if there's no pesto, oats , soyamatchalatté , you'll eat what's there to eat !
Lot of dairy?

CH is probably the polar opposite of Finland, I have never eaten so much dairy in my life since it was not as high quality before. And I was vegan for years before.

OP - there really are now all the options available here, all the major supermarkets, organic shops, sometimes pharmacies specialized in nutrition will have soy stuff, organic pesto and various spreads, I saw Provamel in regular Coop here at some point and pharmacies, it is really fashionable to be vegan these days so you will have it easy I think. Our local organic shop has all that you listed. Chocolates are especially yummy. The only set back is the cost - it seems to me that it is at least that the processed vegan foods are about 50-60% more than the regular stuff but maybe it changed. But food in general is really high quality, you may wean yourself of the processed products and make your own.

I like Jamie Oliver, he is creative and does a lot of vegan stuff, too https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/...l-diets/vegan/
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Hia!

Thanks all those who've been helping me consider and plan a move to Switzerland

Next question: how easy / common / tolerated is it to live as a vegan?

I'm currently in Finland, which is brilliant - half the population is lactose intolerant and most of them are environmentally-minded, so vegan meals and products are everywhere. But I've also lived in parts of France where it's unheard of, and in Australia where it varies wildly depending on which state / city / postcode you're in.

Here are some of my favourite things - how likely am I to be able to keep buying them in Canton Vaud?

Dairy-free yoghurt - Oatly Turkish Oatgurt is the best!

Chocolate - nothing compares to Vego

Pesto - any green pesto without the dairy, don't care about brand

Flavoured soy milks (the only thing for a hangover!) - chocolate, strawberry, banana...

Fully vegan takeaways from restaurants - especially anything with tofu, seitan etc.

What do you reckon?
I'm vegan too. The supermarkets are pretty good (similar to the uk in terms of options but more expensive). All of your favourites should be available. There will be restaurants in Geneva that give you ample choice, but I find Swiss restaurants overpriced even compared to Swiss wages / general Swiss prices.
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

kittsteer, the funny thing I'm vegan too and as much as I won many battles with paleos-carnivores sometimes I dare to tease the fancy schmancy veganism )

BadgerLady I understand. go on with your questions ignore the grumpy old ones like me
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Re: Living as a vegan around Geneva

Even the discounter supermarkets like Lidl have a fairly good vegan section now.

I'm not vegan but we quite often end up eating vegan food but never buy 'vegan' food. We make it: falafels, hummus and so on.

You can easily buy chick peas and other pulses here and of course fruit and vegetables (especially in season).
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you may wean yourself of the processed products and make your own.
Yeah, the majority of it I do - always make my own 'milks' and have a wide portfolio of seitans. But we all have our little comfort foods and I've never been able to really replicate Turkish Yoghurt or Vego chocolate.

And nobody wants to run the blender with a hangover

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We recon you start eating some good meat. It'll be over soon as Gates and Co. are going to convert the planet to lab protein. and insect protein.
It's your last chance to taste some real bbq.
You may laugh, but one of the reasons I struggle to go back to Australia is that there's no decent vegan yoghurt in the whole country! After a few weeks I'm desperate for my proper brekkie
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