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There are so many choices coming from cultures where people put an effort to make food taste and not just fill up the stomach.
That doesnít answer the question.
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Re: Breakfast

Perhaps the Intermezzo.
Just googled it for you.
Never been to it but menu looks close to an intercontinental offering.
https://www.intermezzo-zug.ch/de/essen/#zmorge
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There are so many choices coming from cultures where people put an effort to make food taste and not just fill up the stomach.
You are completely ignorant on this topic if you think that a well-cooked English breakfast, using quality ingredients, does not objectively taste good. It tastes fantastic due to the way it is cooked and the combination of flavours and textures on one plate.

Is it healthy when eaten on a regular basis? Nope, definitely not, too many saturated fats. It's a great treat every now and then though.
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Youíre right, a full Irish always trumps a full English, no idea what the Welsh or the Scottish get up to in the morning.
Both done well are fantastic but Iíd be tempted to agree with you. What I like about the full Irish is the white pudding which is not typical at all for a full English (at least where Iím from). A good potato cake is also a treat.

Most important is the quality of the bacon and Iíve had equally terrible and equally amazing bacon in both England and Ireland. This is the crux in Switzerland as a thick, cured back bacon is nowhere to be found.
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You are completely ignorant on this topic if you think that a well-cooked English breakfast, using quality ingredients, does not objectively taste good. It tastes fantastic due to the way it is cooked and the combination of flavours and textures on one plate.

Is it healthy when eaten on a regular basis? Nope, definitely not, too many saturated fats. It's a great treat every now and then though.
Am I ? I claim its ignorant to eat baked beans in the morning
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Am I ? I claim its ignorant to eat baked beans in the morning
Then you have no idea what the word ignorant actually means and are simply misusing it.
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That doesnít answer the question.
Proper food is a meal that is created by people who appreciate the taste, appropriateness and etiquet. French and Italians have a lot of hertigate when it comes to food.
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Proper food is a meal that is created by people who appreciate the taste, appropriateness and etiquet. French and Italians have a lot of hertigate when it comes to food.
Ok, I’ll rephrase the question.

Give me some examples of what you consider to be proper food. What is a proper breakfast to you?

That definition could apply to pretty much any food, even an English breakfast, depending on who is judging it and who cooked it.

Fine, you don’t like baked beans for breakfast but plenty of people do. Does that make them wrong and you right? Of course it doesn’t. It just means that different people have different tastes.

Personally I can’t imagine anything worse than cheese for breakfast but I accept that for plenty of people that’s a ‘proper’ breakfast.

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Old 11.07.2021, 10:42
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Proper food is a meal that is created by people who appreciate the taste, appropriateness and etiquet. French and Italians have a lot of hertigate when it comes to food.
Britain has too. It lost it's way for many years and their are historical reasons for this which you may, or may not appreciate (depending on which country you come from) but it's definitely back on track.

Of course if you visit the U.K. and shop at Asda and eat at Le Petit Chef then you won't appreciate this.
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I am waiting for the OPs next question...where to find a decent bagel in Zug.

Ah yes, the Holy Grail.

Twenty-some years here (in the boondocks), still on the quest.

Walking by a new bakery the other day, my eye was caught by something round and sesame covered displayed in the window.

Forked over the better part of a ten franc note, hoping that maybe this time...

Nope, not even close.

They say that a sure sign of madness is to repeat an action expecting against experience a different outcome. If that is true, the Bagel Quest has driven me mad.

Dear Bškerei Verein: Round bread does not a bagel make.

And don't get me started on Bialys.

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But back on topic:

I miss going out for breakfast. There is something so delightfully decadent about an herb omelette cooked by someone else early in the morning.
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Old 11.07.2021, 11:10
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There are so many choices coming from cultures where people put an effort to make food taste and not just fill up the stomach.
And if it does not meet your taste itís not acceptableÖ. Do you even for a few seconds think that peopleís tastes vary and the your choices may seem very pedestrian to the rest of us.
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Old 11.07.2021, 11:17
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Ah yes, the Holy Grail.

Twenty-some years here (in the boondocks), still on the quest.

Walking by a new bakery the other day, my eye was caught by something round and sesame covered displayed in the window.

Forked over the better part of a ten franc note, hoping that maybe this time...

Nope, not even close.

They say that a sure sign of madness is to repeat an action expecting against experience a different outcome. If that is true, the Bagel Quest has driven me mad.

Dear Bškerei Verein: Round bread does not a bagel make.

And don't get me started on Bialys.

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But back on topic:

I miss going out for breakfast. There is something so delightfully decadent about an herb omelette cooked by someone else early in the morning.
On the other hand the English started to make a "healthy-style" English breakfast. Not a drop of fat to see. Accordingly tasteless. You need to go to a truck-stop now, to get the real thing.

I grew up without bagels, so got nothing to miss there. Grumpy used to serve bagels, I seem to remember he told me they need to be steamed not baked? Did you ever have one of those? Were they the real thing?
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Old 11.07.2021, 11:24
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Traditional Swiss breakfast is a cigarette and a red bull consumed on the go to/from a tram/train stop.
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I grew up without bagels, so got nothing to miss there. Grumpy used to serve bagels, I seem to remember he told me they need to be steamed not baked? Did you ever have one of those? Were they the real thing?
Bagels are boiled then baked.

The NYT bagel recipe is a good one:
https://cooking.nytimes.com/guides/8...to-make-bagels

ETA: If behind a paywall, you can get to the recipe via a google search.


Sadly I never had Grumpy's bagels but I heard they were quite good. One of these days I'll have to screw my courage to the sticking place (I hate the city), get out of the boondocks, and go on an urban Bagel Quest.
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You are completely ignorant on this topic if you think that a well-cooked English breakfast, using quality ingredients, does not objectively taste good. It tastes fantastic due to the way it is cooked and the combination of flavours and textures on one plate.

Is it healthy when eaten on a regular basis? Nope, definitely not, too many saturated fats. It's a great treat every now and then though.
It's healthy only if you're having breakfast and then work very hard, a physical work during the day. If you sit on your butt in an office, scrolling EF when you're bored and having another robust meal at noon (and maybe even a copious dinner at home), then no, it's not healthy. There's nothing bad per se with certain foods IMHO, it's how much we eat and what kind of work we do.
When we were students and visited Ireland we used to have a copious breakfast with the owners of the B&B, which carried us on to dinner, we basically didn't need any lunch. (not more than some fruit and biscuits or a bit of chocolate)
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I enjoy heading out early on a Saturday morning down to the lake for a traditional Swiss breakfast which tends to be a coffee/tea/expresso and some delicious gipfeli. But every now and then it would be nice to find a good traditional international breakfast (eggs, bacon, etc). Any suggestions on where to find this type of breakfast, preferably not far from Zug? Thanks.

https://company.timhortons.com/ca/en/menu/breakfast.php
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It's healthy only if you're having breakfast and then work very hard, a physical work during the day. If you sit on your butt in an office, scrolling EF when you're bored and having another robust meal at noon (and maybe even a copious dinner at home), then no, it's not healthy. There's nothing bad per se with certain foods IMHO, it's how much we eat and what kind of work we do.
When we were students and visited Ireland we used to have a copious breakfast with the owners of the B&B, which carried us on to dinner, we basically didn't need any lunch. (not more than some fruit and biscuits or a bit of chocolate)
That could be said for lots of other things too.

A croissant isnít really healthy either and unlike a full English breakfast doesnít keep you full for long.

Itís a case of everything in moderation as with most things. A full English breakfast or a croissant every now and again isnít going to do you much harm, if you were to have them for breakfast every morning it would be a different matter entirely.
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I see that Timmy's has RŲsti!
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"decent English breakfast" is already as funny as it can be
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Says the person who lives in Swiss.
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I am waiting for the OPs next question...where to find a decent bagel in Zug.

As the OP appears to be from Canada, perhaps the word "international" was used instead of Canadian.

Looking for a breakfast consisting of bacon and eggs, along with some form of potatoes and bread is not difficult to find in Canada. Here some hotels, especially near the airport in Zurich, used to offer this.

Our family likes to cook so I can't offer any restaurant advice. On weekends l make poached eggs on whole grain toast which I serve with cherry tomatoes, as well as yoghurt and fresh fruit.
And if I were even to suggest Kippers, Mrs. D would file for divorce instantaneously!
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