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15.08.2021, 11:34
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Zucchini that were harvested late, that gave them the time needed (probably a couple weeks) to grow into zucchetti.
It is indeed part of Swiss German, but just like zucchini the word sounds very Italian to me. Both's spelling follows Italian rules. | | | | | So if I understand correctly:
Zucchini (Swiss German) = Courgette (British English) = Zucchini (American English)
Zuchetti (Swiss German) = Marrow (English)
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15.08.2021, 12:06
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
My favourite vegetable word in German is Chabis. It has three meanings.
1)vegetable
2) breasts
3) bullsh%t
Edit: Swiss German, of course
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15.08.2021, 12:08
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Curley meant to write zucchini (no t), which is american-speak for courgette. | | | | | Zucchini is also Italian for zucchini.
Courgette is French for zucchini.
Zucchini is plural, one is a zucchina.
It is derived from 'zucca' (pumpkin), and means a small pumkin.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
It is also slang for wealthy Swiss Germans who retire in Ticino, and are resistant to the local culture or language.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | My favourite vegetable word in German is Chabis. It has three meanings.
1)vegetable 2) breasts
3) bullsh%t | | | | | Obviously, I’ve lead a sheltered life as I’ve never heard #2 before 
To my dismay, this meaning has been confirmed as valid. While I’m not keen on Bruxelles Sprouts as such, I’d prefer the implied symbolism any day | 
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | It is also slang for wealthy Swiss Germans who retire in Ticino, and are resistant to the local culture or language. | | | | | Will gladly defer to Tom as our local specialist but would suggest that wealth, retirement etc. have less bearing that plain and simple origin from Svizzera Interna w/o at least passable local language.
BTW: anyone know the term annoying Romands are dismissed with in TI?
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | BTW: anyone know the term annoying Romands are dismissed with in TI? | | | | | Also zucchini.
Everyone from north of the Alps is the same for us, we do NOT descriminate!
For us, it's ALL "Svizzera Interna"!
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | So if I understand correctly:
Zucchini (Swiss German) = Courgette (British English) = Zucchini (American English)
Zuchetti (Swiss German) = Marrow (English) | | | | | Probably correct, "probably" because this beats my English and I need to rely on DuckDuckGo.
Another way to put it is:
Zucchini < ~0.3kg
Zucchetti > ~0.5kg (can be 2kg or more, depends on the amount of rain during the final weeks)
I've never really thought about it because the difference is usually self-evident, but seeds my be the "real" criterium (has seeds therefore it's a Zucchetti, otherwise a Zucchini). However that's not visible from outside, and weight is the next-best measure.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | BTW: anyone know the term annoying Romands are dismissed with in TI? | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Also zucchini.
Everyone from north of the Alps is the same for us, we do NOT descriminate!
For us, it's ALL "Svizzera Interna"! 
Tom | | | | | Disagree! This is double discrimination! Being thrown in the same basket as les Totos must really hurt | 
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Disagree! This is double discrimination! Being thrown in the same basket as les Totos must really hurt  | | | | | or "äs grüezeni"
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | I've never really thought about it because the difference is usually self-evident, but seeds my be the "real" criterium (has seeds therefore it's a Zucchetti, otherwise a Zucchini). However that's not visible from outside, and weight is the next-best measure. | | | | | Size is what counts (and seeds, a bit) https://www.swissmilk.ch/de/rezepte-...und-zucchetti/ What is the difference between zucchini and zucchetti?
The only difference between zucchini and zucchetti is the size:
If the fruits are harvested early and have a length of 10-15cm, then they are called zucchini. Larger specimens are called zucchetti.
There is no difference in taste between the two.
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15.08.2021, 16:10
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
They are zucchini in Italian regardless of size.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | They are zucchini in Italian regardless of size.
Tom | | | | | Size doesn't matter in Italian
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I trust that Swiss MILK know their way around when it comes to dairy stuff.
Fruit and veggies however aren't dairy.
That doesn't mean they're wrong. Nor am I claiming that my speculation is true, the lack of such a claim is the very nature of one.
Nonetheless they're not what I'd call a reliable source in this matter, or who I'd rely on.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Size doesn't matter in Italian | | | | | Size matters in any language | 
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Size matters in any language  | | | | | Does that apply to the Zucchini? I would have thought they're bisexual.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros | Quote: | |  | | | Does that apply to the Zucchini? I would have thought they're bisexual. | | | | | Well, they are German Swiss, never have asked if they are bisex.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
Mine can't walk, Tom. Nor do they talk.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
After I caused such a long discussion by mentioning Zucchetti, I just realized that when I don't think about it and just write it on my shopping list I too write Zucchini.
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| | Re: Consistently bad quality in Migros
It's the season for green beans. And I'm pissed off.
All of the fresh beans I was gonna cook today were covered in black spots. Could have been anything from just ugly to black spot disease.
Last week I couldn't buy any because there were a million of these little flies on the bags.
I was generous about the rotten onions because Migros could - like me - not see that from the outside. But the beans they should have checked.
It's Sunday and my dinner is - non existent now
At the same time I start to wonder, if all these newish veggie problems are due to all this rain this summer. In fact, it's pretty clear they are, no?
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