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Stand mixer

For my baking, I currently have an mixer from Aldi which is basically a hand mixer on a stand with a rotating bowl. It's okay for light jobs such as whipping cream or beating egg whites, but even cookie dough is a struggle, let alone kneading, even though it came with kneading hooks.

So I am looking for a proper stand mixer that has enough power for all those jobs and won't break down in a year. But I don't want to spend 500+ francs for a KitchenAid. On the other hand, I'm wary of all those cheap models (such as those at Lidl, Aldi, Conforama, etc.).

Recently, Saldo magazine had a test of affordable stand mixers. The full review is behind a paywall, but Galaxus put up a summary:

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The Bosch MUM 58720 was the test winner. The machine performed convincingly in the 16-hour endurance test without leaving any signs of wear. The experts also praised the fact that the machine was very quiet compared to its competitors. The dough product also looked good. The Bosch machine kneaded the cake dough best.

The Kenwood Multi One came in second, followed by the Turmix CX970 in third place. Both machines achieved equally good results in kneading and beating. There was also little difference between the results of these two models in terms of handling and volume. Both models also have a meat grinder to make minced meat.

Fourth place went to the Electrolux EKM4000 model from Electrolux, while the machine from Durabase came in fifth. The inexpensive Migros machine from Durabase kneaded the dough evenly and smoothly. The machine was also able to whip the cream quickly and received an overall rating of "good". However, it was criticised that not all accessories are dishwasher-safe.

The cheapest stand mixer of Prima Vista brand from Landi landed in sixth place. Surprisingly, the machine was even able to produce the best bread dough in a short time. It also performed well when whipping cream and egg whites. However, this machine was quite noisy, so there were points deduced for loudness. There were also some signs of wear in the endurance test. Nevertheless, the machine achieved an overall rating of "good".

The Rotel Power Mix 441 model from Rotel came in seventh, with good results, especially when whipping cream and egg whites.

The mixer "Culina 2" of the Satrap brand, purchased at Coop Bau + Hobby, received the overall rating "insufficient" and was eliminated from the test. When making bread and cake dough, the machine did not knead the entire dough. As a result, a lot of flour got stuck in the mixing bowl. With cream, the experts observed that it was not whipped evenly. After the endurance test, there were also clear scratch marks in the bowl. Another criticism was that the machine's accessories were not dishwasher safe.
All of your personal experiences are welcome.
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Re: Stand mixer

I was given a Kitchen Aid as a birthday present back in April (we found that we were moving here only in July, although it was rumors prior to that), and mine is only a 120V model. I have a step-down transformer, so I am assuming that I will continue to use it here when it finally arrives.

That said, one of the main reasons that I wanted it was because Kitchen Aid also has that attachment mount on the front, and I was able to hook up a meat grinder (I was making a lot of homemade sausage in Japan, because no good ones to be found where I was), and there's also a food processor attachment that I've my eyes on. So the Kitchen Aid 'can' be several machines in one, which, especially if you don't already have a meat grinder and food processor, might be worth your while.

In short, I'm happy with mine, but I get your leeriness about laying out the cash for one... they are ridiculously expensive, especially here.
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Re: Stand mixer

Around Christmastime, you can find Kitchen Aids for good prices if you look hard enough. Have you registered on Dein Deal? I remember seeing one for a very good price back then...

I personally believe it is better to save up and buy a good quality lifetime product rather than one you may have to throw out after a few years & replace. I inherited my Kitchen Aid stand mixer from my mother and it works as good as new to this day and is a staple in my kitchen. (I even use it for juicing and meat grinding).

Perhaps you can even locate a used one on one of the auction sites?
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Re: Stand mixer

Kenwood has been a popular brand in Switzerland for years. You'll find second hand ones in Tutti.ch or Anibis.ch.
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Re: Stand mixer

I have a Rotel Powermix 443 and have honestly been very impressed by it and it handles dough no problem! They now cost 180chf at Galaxus but I oinly paid 99chf... the prices have shot up due to how popular they have become. https://www.galaxus.ch/en/s2/product...chines-5297056

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Re: Stand mixer

+1000 for Kitchen Aid. I inherited a 1970s model from my mom in 1983. I gave it to my sister shortly thereafter. It's still running like a top, and as MattyRS said, there are some nice attachments (including a juicer).
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Re: Stand mixer

Landi ranked in your list for 79 CHF, works great
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Re: Stand mixer

Thanks for all the replies! I already have a food processor (and a pasta maker) so I don't need any accessories.

Deindeal has indeed a KitchenAid offer.
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Re: Stand mixer

I have several Kitchenaids, and yes, they are heavy duty workhorses.

However, how often does one need a workhorse today?

The first Kitchenaid was bought expecting to regularly bake for a large family, it was a godsend for holiday baking, giving dinner parties, etc - the kind of life I baked for before moving here.

However, it was a tad annoying when mixing smaller amounts, leaving dough unmixed at the bottom so that I had to stop and scrape by hand. At least I though the problem was with smaller amounts in a large mixer.

When we moved here I bought a smaller Kitchenaid, knowing I would bake less. I bought the same brand simply because I already had the full range of attachments. I was disappointed to find the same problem with the beaters not getting to the bottom of the bowl.

My biggest problem with the Kitchenaid is the space it takes in my tiny kitchen. I don't have room to keep it on a counter, but if I store it in the cellar chances are it will never see the light of day again. Every mixer will be a problem in a small kitchen, but because the Kitchenaid is so heavy I find that I often just can't rustle up the energy to drag it upstairs.

So I bake a lot of scones that only need hand mixing.

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Whatever you decide, do not pay full Swiss list price! There are always sales going on, you should be able to get 40-50% off. (That will still be expensive, though.)
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Re: Stand mixer

Landi regularly has a sale on Kitchenaids or their own brand. Wait for that if you are not in a hurry?
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Re: Stand mixer

I made a bad quality experience with kitchenaid and bought a Kenwood since. Absolutely perfect for less money.
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Re: Stand mixer

If you like the Kitchen Aid but the only problem is the price then look on Ricardo or Tutti. They are quite often given as wedding presents and only used for decoration! We have one and love it.

The fact it will probably outlast most others should give you enough motivation from a greenhouse perspective.
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If you like the Kitchen Aid but the only problem is the price then look on Ricardo or Tutti. They are quite often given as wedding presents and only used for decoration! We have one and love it.

The fact it will probably outlast most others should give you enough motivation from a greenhouse perspective.
Exactly. This is why I try to buy quality and durable appliances and such. I have pots and pans and appliances that I winced at their prices when buying, but still having them twenty to forty years later makes a huge difference. My wife was buying pans every year or two when they'd just be useless, and now tends to use the heavier stuff.
Unfortunately here, it's mainly electric for ranges (see other thread), and my long lasting Caphalon would get that weird warp, so we've left many of my thirty year old pans in Japan.
Likewise, Japan stopped making quality cooking appliances years ago, and relies mainly on disposable (or not more than two or three years of use) appliances. II have several of my parents or grandparents appliances (eg Oster Blender, cast iron food mills) that are well over forty years old.
If you can get the Kitchen Aid for a decent price - the suggestion above is great - I'd recommend it.
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....The fact it will probably outlast most others should give you enough motivation from a greenhouse perspective.
If one wants a reliable Kitchenaid, one need to go for the top "bowl-lift" line, and not entry level "tilt-head" version.
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Exactly. This is why I try to buy quality and durable appliances and such. I have pots and pans and appliances that I winced at their prices when buying, but still having them twenty to forty years later makes a huge difference.
Same! I have pots and pans in my home that I saw my mother cook on when I was a child. Absolutely worth it ... I also recently purchased a plancha from Staub on Dein Deal that made me wince, but I cannot tell you the joy of cooking on that thing and how delicious the food is. I know it will last for many years to come ... I also waited awhile for the price to be right.

I hope you can find exactly what you are looking for OP from the many suggestions here. Another tip - I used a hand mixer for years and was quite happy with it ...
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Re: Stand mixer

I don't know much about stand mixers (I use a Thermomix), however there seem to be a lot of KitchenAid standmixers for under CHF500. Are there different models?

https://www.techmania.ch/de/product/...xoCSbIQAvD_BwE

https://www.mediamarkt.ch/de/product...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.manor.ch/de/p/1000013450...RoC5EEQAvD_BwE
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I don't know much about stand mixers (I use a Thermomix), however there seem to be a lot of KitchenAid standmixers for under CHF500. Are there different models?

https://www.techmania.ch/de/product/...xoCSbIQAvD_BwE

https://www.mediamarkt.ch/de/product...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.manor.ch/de/p/1000013450...RoC5EEQAvD_BwE
Those are for the KitchenAid "Classic." It has less power and features than the "Artisan" which is what gets recommended the most.
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Re: Stand mixer

If Bosch is on the list I'd get that, I've owned loads of Bosch gear over the years, from DIY to Kitchen appliances and if a part breaks I can usually lookup the part number and order it, I loathe these cheap ones from Migros where an impossible to find gear gets stripped and you have to bin a perfectly good motor.
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Re: Stand mixer

+1 for the Landi cheap one. I've been using it for a few years mainly for kneading bread dough. It does the job.
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Re: Stand mixer

It just so happens that amazon.de has a Bosch stand mixer for its deal of the day:

MUM59N26

Unfortunately, they deliver that item to Germany only. If any of you living near the border are interested, it can be worth it going over to pick it up.
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