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Old 24.11.2021, 01:42
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Re: The Wine Thread

I really like the Epicuro Merlot Primitivo, which comes up at 3.8 in Vivino.

Currently on sale in my nearest Denner @ ca. CHF 35 a carton, with a further 20% discount from Thursday to Sunday, so then less than CHF 5 per bottle..
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Old 24.11.2021, 08:33
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Re: The Wine Thread

I recently bought a few bottles of the Anthonij Rupert Blend 2012, which Kapweine currently have a special on. This is a Bordeaux blend and for the price it's really incredible. It's marked down from CHF107 to CHF79. This is actually cheaper (if I recall) than you can get it directly from the estate!
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Re: The Wine Thread

People on a different forum I use rave about the Aldi Grande Alberone Primitivo/Zinfandel that costs 7.99 a bottle. It's actually been on offer in half bottles at 3.50 recently. It's not necessarily my preferred style, but I appreciate it for what it is and it punches well above its price. One half bottle went in a venison casserole and one half bottle was drunk. Also recommended in the casserole.

https://vinoteca.aldi-suisse.ch/rotw...-alberone-075l

There was some talk before about natural wines. I tried one from near Perpignan at a tasting on Sunday. It had hints of a wild fermented beer or a Belgian Gueuze beer before giving way to a very earthy taste. Completely different to any other wine I've had, but not to say it was bad. At 13.50 a bottle, I'm still considering ordering a case as a curiosity.
https://www.cavetta.ch/product/la-haut-2019/

Also at the tasting was a Portuguese vineyard called Quinta de Sant'Ana, which compared to the other stands performed well for their price
https://www.cavetta.ch/shop/herkunft...nta-de-santana.

The other stands had some nice wines and it was great to talk to the vintners, but when the whites were costing 30-40 a bottle and the reds 40 upwards they are getting into very competitive territory (i.e. Burgundy, Bordeaux, Piedmont and Tuscany) and beyond impulse purchase.
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Old 24.11.2021, 21:37
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I hang my flag on Denner, they have a good selection of wines often at half price and sometimes they offer another 20% off the discounted prices.

This week they have three wines I really like at half price, all reds, flavourful. I have never tried their other 50% offers this week so can not recommend them.

https://www.denner.ch/de/aktionen/ar...dop-riserva-3/

https://www.denner.ch/de/aktionen/ar...bec-reserva-3/

https://www.denner.ch/de/aktionen/ar...lentino-dop-6/
Ah a denner wine lover. One wine you must try is Tar and Roses shiraz. It is from Victoria Australia, has a whopping 14.5 % alcohol and if you can find it in the box reduced 50% and then the extra 20% I guarantee you that there is no better wine for that price, period. Normally is is about 15 chuffs but with the deal it is about 6.
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Ah a denner wine lover. One wine you must try is Tar and Roses shiraz. It is from Victoria Australia, has a whopping 14.5 % alcohol and if you can find it in the box reduced 50% and then the extra 20% I guarantee you that there is no better wine for that price, period. Normally is is about 15 chuffs but with the deal it is about 6.
Jokes aside, very high alcohol levels are a turn-off for me. I picked up an interesting looking Australian wine in (I think) Otto's last week but put it back when I saw it was 15.5%. Anything over 14% is too high for me, unless it's a traditional part of the wine's character e.g. an Amarone or a fortified wine, where you're not expected to drink too much of the stuff. It's a bit like beer -- I can appreciatively sip an 8% Belgian speciality but to enjoy beer properly I want something I can glug a few glasses of with friends, so ideally between 4 and 5.5%. For me, the sweet spot for wine is 13-13.5%.
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Re: The Wine Thread

As a slight aside, went to a very interesting lecture on the effect of climate change on wines and wine regions.

Looks like Neuchâtel has had an exceptional 20 years of perfect temps for Pinot Noir- which they could not grow before due to later Spring frosts- but they they now have to prepare to adjust and begin to plant Merlot, Malbek and Syrah- which withstand higher temps, and start planting Pinot Noir at slightly higher altitude actually on the Jura.

Predictions too that the Champagne region will soon be in big trouble, as their IGP/AOC are linked to a very specific region/terroir- that can't really adjust. In Alsace, they are looking at planting trees to provide cooler temps required for Riesling and Gewürztraminer. As for the Montpellier region of France- it seems that they are doomed. Bordeaux seems a bit more lucky and will have more time.

Fascinating- researchers at Neuchâtel Uni are working in close cooperation with the region's winegrowers- also the region with the most 'bio', some officially registered, others on practising- in CH.

For those of you who read French

https://www.rts.ch/info/regions/neuc...limatique.html

Other regions of Switzerland and the world will have to adjust too- as temps rise, and water gets scarcer.
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Re: The Wine Thread

From the article shared by JackieH, la fine (distillate) produced by François Gasser is great.

If anyone wants to read the article in English from the UNINE researchers (Valentin Comte and the others), it's here: Effects of climate change on bioclimatic indices in vineyards along Lake Neuchatel, Switzerland https://doi.org/10.1007/s00704-021-03836-1 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?c...=en&as_sdt=0,5
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Thanks, didn't know there was an English version. The lecture yesterday was given by Valentin Comte.
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Re: The Wine Thread

There are some very good Neuchatel PN wines, reputedly, one of the best PN's fro Switzelrand is Les Rissieux / Jaques Tatasciore, if you can find it, it's around Chf 320-350/ bottle. I've trrie dit and it's good, but not this good !



Very very difficult to obtain, he produces around 30k bottles/year of 4 different PN.


Another highly reputed PN is Les Landions, (Chf 55'ish) there are 2 others from same producer, Les Cailloutis (Chf 35.--ish) & Clos de Chateau, (Chf 65'ish) neither of which are as good as Les Landions, also VERY difficult to find now. https://meiervin.ch/en/


Les Grillets are good as is another favourite of mine, Haute Couture (Chf 49'ish) from here https://www.domainedemontmollin.ch/e...h%C3%A2tel-aoc
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Jokes aside, very high alcohol levels are a turn-off for me. I picked up an interesting looking Australian wine in (I think) Otto's last week but put it back when I saw it was 15.5%. Anything over 14% is too high for me, unless it's a traditional part of the wine's character e.g. an Amarone or a fortified wine, where you're not expected to drink too much of the stuff. It's a bit like beer -- I can appreciatively sip an 8% Belgian speciality but to enjoy beer properly I want something I can glug a few glasses of with friends, so ideally between 4 and 5.5%. For me, the sweet spot for wine is 13-13.5%.
Same here, beer should be 5%, full stop, anything lower I get nervous, anything higher for me is not an everyday beer but I will try anything once. Normally for me, wine should be in that same sweet spot that you like but I make an exception for this one. Of course Shiraz is usually a pretty heavy drop and not to everyones taste.
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