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Root Beer without the HFCS, is it something difficult to find outside of the American stores en Suisse?...I found A&W at a COOP in Geneva but HFCS
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Also some bohemian places would be good.. swiss food doesnt have enough personality for me.
Bohemian, you mean Czech?
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American food is borring! Why not eat some Asian food of some kind? Thats real food and not junk.
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American food is borring! Why not eat some Asian food of some kind? Thats real food and not junk.
You have obviously no clue about real American food, do you?
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You have obviously no clue about real American food, do you?
Very sorry but most people in the world believe that American food is a combination of McDonalds, BurgerKing and some other junkfood-chains.
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American food is borring! Why not eat some Asian food of some kind? Thats real food and not junk.
3 NON-junkfood, but real American cuisine proposals :

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Key West Restaurant Oberrieden / Zürich
Seestr. 31-32, 8942 Oberrieden /ZH
Tel 044- 720 05 04 , Fax 044- 720 63 94
Oeffnungszeiten: Mo-So ab 11.00
WEB: www.keywest-zuerich.ch


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Steakhouse TEXAS Dübendorf / Zürich
Usterstr. 68, 8600 Dübendorf
Tel 043 333 89 34 , Fax 044 333 89 35
WEB: www.steakhouse-texas.ch


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PAPAJOE’S Zürich
Schifflände 18, am Hechtplatz, 8001 Zürich
Tel 044 269 88 88, Fax 044 262 43 67
WEB: www.papajoes.ch/zuerich


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My favourite is the Key West, due to its unique location on the lake

The three definitely are NOT in junk-food
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Very sorry but most people in the world believe that American food is a combination of McDonalds, BurgerKing and some other junkfood-chains.
American food is VERY diverse depending where you come from. I lived in the south for 15 years. BBQ, collared greens, fried okra, fried pickles etc. My family lives in New England, so you are talking fried clams, Maine Lobster, chowda. I totally agree that most foreigners think American food is our fast food chains because that is really all you can get outside of America. I have traveled all over and I have yet to find good tex mex, cajun, BBQ etc outside of the US. KFC is not true southern food. Until you have eaten a rack of baby back ribs where the meat falls off the bones and drips with a real vinegar based BBQ sauce, you have not had true BBQ. I would DIE right now for Sonny's pork 3 ways platter with ribs, pulled pork and sliced roasted pork with cornbread, baked beans and heaps of sweet BBQ sauce. Dont forget the desert of fresh banana pudding with Nilla Wafers on top. YUMMY!!! Maybe I will fly back to FL this weekend just to eat
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American food is VERY diverse depending where you come from. I lived in the south for 15 years. BBQ, collared greens, fried okra, fried pickles etc. My family lives in New England, so you are talking fried clams, Maine Lobster, chowda. I totally agree that most foreigners think American food is our fast food chains because that is really all you can get outside of America. I have traveled all over and I have yet to find good tex mex, cajun, BBQ etc outside of the US. KFC is not true southern food. Until you have eaten a rack of baby back ribs where the meat falls off the bones and drips with a real vinegar based BBQ sauce, you have not had true BBQ. I would DIE right now for Sonny's pork 3 ways platter with ribs, pulled pork and sliced roasted pork with cornbread, baked beans and heaps of sweet BBQ sauce. Dont forget the desert of fresh banana pudding with Nilla Wafers on top. YUMMY!!! Maybe I will fly back to FL this weekend just to eat
I have not yet tried the one in Dübendorf, but Papa Joe is good and Key West is excellent. There were even more quality American restaurants around here but some went out of business in the GWB years (GWB ruined respect and sympathy for his country to an unbelievable extent ! ) . There in London used to be the "Old Orleans" on Fleet Street with excellent South Louisiana food, and in Paris the "Nouvelle Orleans" nr Montmartre on the Blvd de l'Opera.

On visit in the USA, I enjoyed the Carolina-cuisine and the Cajun-cuisine, but in the home of an old aunt also good traditional Texas cuisine. There of course are a few others around. I for example have not yet tried the

http://www.texmex4you.ch/index.php?w=zuerich

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The image of the USA food-wise of course however IS dominated by McDonald's/Burger-King-etc
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Many pubs like the Shamrock or the St. Joseph have BLT. Burgers are NOT regarded as something for "connoisseurs" but as "sub-class nourishment" !
Yeah. Maybe by people who have no clue.

http://cheeseandburger.com/
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The image of the USA food-wise of course however IS dominated by McDonald's/Burger-King-etc
By that argument, anyone not living in Switzerland will believe that the Swiss only eat chocolate and fondue. I guess uneducated provinciality is a far more commonplace occurrence that posters in EF would have us believe. When I tell people I'm going back to the US, one of their first comments is generally something along the line of "Oh! God! The FOOD!", said with a rather orgasmic tone
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I agree (with bolded statement) only insofar as with people that have not spent any quality time in the US. As you state, yourself, you have partaken in many "real" American style foods from several different regions.

Whether I go back to visit Maine or California, I can't wait to visit some of my favorites restaurants.

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I have not yet tried the one in Dübendorf, but Papa Joe is good and Key West is excellent. There were even more quality American restaurants around here but some went out of business in the GWB years (GWB ruined respect and sympathy for his country to an unbelievable extent ! ) . There in London used to be the "Old Orleans" on Fleet Street with excellent South Louisiana food, and in Paris the "Nouvelle Orleans" nr Montmartre on the Blvd de l'Opera.

On visit in the USA, I enjoyed the Carolina-cuisine and the Cajun-cuisine, but in the home of an old aunt also good traditional Texas cuisine. There of course are a few others around. I for example have not yet tried the

http://www.texmex4you.ch/index.php?w=zuerich

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Very sorry but most people in the world believe that American food is a combination of McDonalds, BurgerKing and some other junkfood-chains.
And some people still believe the earth is flat.
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American food is borring! Why not eat some Asian food of some kind? Thats real food and not junk.
Such a statement suggests a stunning ignorance of what American food really is. Since America is made up of immigrants from all over the world, the cuisines they brought with them and introduced to the "new world" have become an integral part of what is known as American cuisine and have, in many cases, become intertwined with dishes based on regional specialties from around the country. For instance, to name a few:

The Italian immigrants introduced spaghetti (which they, incidentally, stole from the Chinese) and pizza.

The German immigrants introduced sausages (frankfurters/hot dogs) and hamburgers, dumplings, strudels and apple cakes.

The Polish and Jewish immigrants introduced many foods originating in Germany/Russia/Poland/Eastern Europe, such as latkes (potato pancakes) pastrami, blintzes, pierogis, bagels, borscht, pot roast, rugelach, etc.

Incidentally, Delicatessens (or delis) were first opened by German and Jewish immigrants to sell meats, cold cuts, potato salad and other prepared foods the same as any "Traiteur" in a European city.

The Mexican and Cuban immigrants introduced tortillas (soft and crunchy), salsas, black beans, spicy beef stew (picadillo, ropa vieja), fried plantains (tostones), etc.

Got to almost any pancake restaurant in the US and, among the offerings, you'll find waffles (Belgian), omelets and crepes (French) and Swedish pancakes.

The word "cookie" is derived from the Dutch "Koekje" and although cookies are very much a staple in American households, they are European in origin.

Even Asian food has insinuated itself into the American food landscape, thanks to the plethora of Asian immigrants, and is just as much a part of "American cuisine" as the soul food that predominates in much of the American south and amongst many black Americans.
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Very sorry but most people in the world believe that American food is a combination of McDonalds, BurgerKing and some other junkfood-chains.

So most people in the world are rather ignorant?
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Such a statement suggests a stunning ignorance of what American food really is. Since America is made up of immigrants from all over the world, the cuisines they brought with them and introduced to the "new world" have become an integral part of what is known as American cuisine and have, in many cases, become intertwined with dishes based on regional specialties from around the country. For instance, to name a few:

The Italian immigrants introduced spaghetti (which they, incidentally, stole from the Chinese) and pizza.

The German immigrants introduced sausages (frankfurters/hot dogs) and hamburgers, dumplings, strudels and apple cakes.

The Polish and Jewish immigrants introduced many foods originating in Germany/Russia/Poland/Eastern Europe, such as latkes (potato pancakes) pastrami, blintzes, pierogis, bagels, borscht, pot roast, rugelach, etc.

Incidentally, Delicatessens (or delis) were first opened by German and Jewish immigrants to sell meats, cold cuts, potato salad and other prepared foods the same as any "Traiteur" in a European city.

The Mexican and Cuban immigrants introduced tortillas (soft and crunchy), salsas, black beans, spicy beef stew (picadillo, ropa vieja), fried plantains (tostones), etc.

Got to almost any pancake restaurant in the US and, among the offerings, you'll find waffles (Belgian), omelets and crepes (French) and Swedish pancakes.

The word "cookie" is derived from the Dutch "Koekje" and although cookies are very much a staple in American households, they are European in origin.

Even Asian food has insinuated itself into the American food landscape, thanks to the plethora of Asian immigrants, and is just as much a part of "American cuisine" as the soul food that predominates in much of the American south and amongst many black Americans.
There is also Southwestern cuisine which comes from a mixture of Native
American, Mexican, and Tex-Mex.

Additionally, Fajitas are not Mexican. They are Tex-Mex.

Cajun/Creole food is quite special from the New Orleans and surrounding areas. It blends spicyness with seafood, chicken, sausage, pork, etc.
Crawfish etoufée is to die for.

Southern cuisine tastes excellent although it is typically fried.
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Re: American Food

This is the question I want to know. Americans return to America and go nuts because they missed the food. Brits go back and consume their beloved cuisine and they missed every moment of it. The Swiss I know love going on holiday and talk about the wonderful food in the US, UK etc. Question: Do the Swiss come back to Switzerland and say "oh gosh did I miss the restaurants here"?
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I had a vague idea of the variety of American food, and had some really wonderful meals when I was in NYC a few years ago (it's about the only place in America I've been to).

I then read a book by a cyclist who cycled all around America, searching for tasty local food. Stories of fishing for oysters and tailgate parties have given me a whole new appreciation. I've already experienced a couple of proper Thanksgiving meals. Wow, makes our Christmas dinner look like, well, a small token effort in comparison.

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This is the question I want to know. Americans return to America and go nuts because they missed the food. Brits go back and consume their beloved cuisine and they missed every moment of it. The Swiss I know love going on holiday and talk about the wonderful food in the US, UK etc. Question: Do the Swiss come back to Switzerland and say "oh gosh did I miss the restaurants here"?
Depends on how long people have been away, I guess. I don't miss food from the UK when on holiday, but I sure do when living abroad. Mainly good fish and chips, as I can't do that myself.
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By that argument, anyone not living in Switzerland will believe that the Swiss only eat chocolate and fondue. I guess uneducated provinciality is a far more commonplace occurrence that posters in EF would have us believe. When I tell people I'm going back to the US, one of their first comments is generally something along the line of "Oh! God! The FOOD!", said with a rather orgasmic tone
You made the statement as a kind of joke, BUT as much as many people believe that Swiss are permanent chocolate eaters, many people believe that Americans basically eat Hamburgers and not much else.
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Very sorry but most people in the world believe that American food is a combination of McDonalds, BurgerKing and some other junkfood-chains.
most people in the world are guilty of the same ignorant, insular and provincial thinking that they seem to love accusing Americans of.



first thing I am doing when we visit the States this summer is eating a pound of ribs, with some real corn, corn bread and baked beans. making me hungry just thinking about it.
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You made the statement as a kind of joke, BUT as much as many people believe that Swiss are permanent chocolate eaters, many people believe that Americans basically eat Hamburgers and not much else.
So, basically, you'd agree that people's beliefs about American's are even more incorrect than their beliefs about Swiss eating habits.
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