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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

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My uncle Giuseppe absolutely swears by his Riccio coffee machine. It doesn't have a milk steamer or any of that fancy nonsense - it just takes coffee beans and makes a top notch espresso every single time.


It's a bit bulky, though. But surely a kitchen extension is worth it for good coffee, no?


Thanks for that. I just bought one, but I can't work out where the Gold Blend granules go as the instructions are all in Italian.
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Old 25.04.2017, 11:44
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After 6 years of daily Jura cleaning we bought a nesspresso U Turmix machine and now prefer it - consistent quality of coffee, ease of use and cleaning - 3 mins as opposed to Jura's 15 Min. I drink at least 6 espressos a day and my undoubtedly better half takes milk so we now have a nespresso milk heater/ frother which goes in the dishwasher again easy and better than messing about with chemical and jugs etc that Jura requires
This is the opposite to what I would typically recommend. There was another thread on here somewhere where loads of us, me included, recommended DeLonghi machines as they're easier to clean/maintain than the Jura ones, but make coffees equally as good.

Anyway, I would usually recommend the occasional coffee drinker to use Nespresso as the capsules are sealed and can keep for a long time, plus the machine is simply to use. However, once you drink more than a couple of coffees per day (in the whole household!) then nespresso is expensive and you're better off with an all-in-one (or just get two machines - a grinder and a standard espresso machine). Yes they need cleaning but not after each coffee. The DeLonghi just needs the drip tray and puck container empties/wiped every 20 coffees or so. A standard espresso machine simply needs the portafiller banging out (ooo!) after each espresso and the grouphead wiped clean at the end of the day.
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Old 25.04.2017, 11:48
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

At the rustico we have limited electricity (battery or generator, but who wants to start the generator just to make coffee?), so it's perfect, and better coffee than a Moka.

Also gave one as a gift to a friend who didn't like the non-ecological aspects of Nespresso (we have one at home).

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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

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Evidently you have no idea where Nestle buy coffee for the Nespresso operation

Taste is so relative to all of us that you cannot say with any substantiation that one brand is better than another. We all have a different "taste" for different flavour profiles.

What maybe best for your palette may not agree with my palette

Try Cafe Trottet capsules in Geneva, thay have a lot of profiles and different types of capsules, they are also VERY BIG suppliers of coffee to other operations in Switzerland too.

By the way, the nespresso aluminium capsules have a plastic coating on the inside as the coffee oil attacks aluminium and becomes toxic/rancid. The aluminium is only to give a perception of quality and to provide a premium product to enable 500% markup.
hahaha-- dont even dare say that I dont know where they buy coffee from.


https://www.nestle-nespresso.com/sus...-cup/aluminium

read this for your knowledge, and if not read the published research article
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Old 25.04.2017, 11:55
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

Has anyone here (who actually knows about espresso) tried one of those portable hand-pump espresso makers?

http://www.handpresso.com/en/espress...so-pump-black/

It would be great for camping/travelling or when you're at one of those U.K. hotels with kettles in the room.

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Old 25.04.2017, 11:56
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

I can second la pavoni, great machines if you don't mind the learning curve. The one I have (europiccola) has a milk frother. Those frothers are a PITA to clean, though.
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hahaha-- dont even dare say that I dont know where they buy coffee from.


https://www.nestle-nespresso.com/sus...-cup/aluminium

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YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM WHERE NESPRESSO SOURCE THEIR COFFEE FROM. Happy ?

You have quoted a site written by Nespresso for Nespresso, big deal !

What do you want them to say on it ?

My knowledge is first hand
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Old 25.04.2017, 12:39
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Has anyone here (who actually knows about espresso) tried one of those portable hand-pump espresso makers?

http://www.handpresso.com/en/espress...so-pump-black/

It would be great for camping/travelling or when you're at one of those U.K. hotels with kettles in the room.

I have one, you're welcome to borrow it and try it out for yourself if you want.
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I have one, you're welcome to borrow it and try it out for yourself if you want.
Thanks. But, what do you think of the coffee?

If 10 is the best espresso you have ever had and 1 is the worst, what would you give this?
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

I used to work in an office where the single most expensive piece of equipment was our "rocket" (http://www.rocket-espresso.it/ )

I personally would never put that much work into a coffee, but it became a bit of a social thing to ask "I am making an espresso, who else wants one?". And I think thats a good thing for a smaller office.
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Old 25.04.2017, 12:59
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Thanks. But, what do you think of the coffee?

If 10 is the best espresso you have ever had and 1 is the worst, what would you give this?
It was ok, the taste was maybe around 6 or 7? Didn't get much crema, and got some weird looks from the pumping but it's easy to use and easy to clean.
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For La Pavoni and similar machines, you need to know to exactly how to pull a good espresso shot, and also how to properly froth the milk at right temperature and texture
Firstly, it's not that hard and secondly are you going to deny yourself a pleasure because you don't want to learn something? Do you drive? Why didn't you forego the hassle of learning to drive and just take public transport?

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- aeroccino does it automatically and simply! Moreover, the quality of the foam is amazing compared to the one showed in picture which has huge bubbles and bursted foam - never recommended by a barista!
Another great thing about the aeroccino is that you don't need a Nespresso machine to have one!
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

Well, in the spirit of Scotland's Chewing The Fat..."oooooooooh Handpressooo!, Nespressooo!"


Well we use a Migros' own Delizio brand expresso machine (some models have frothers), and no complaints here!
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

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YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM WHERE NESPRESSO SOURCE THEIR COFFEE FROM. Happy ?

You have quoted a site written by Nespresso for Nespresso, big deal !

What do you want them to say on it ?

My knowledge is first hand
well, my knowledge is also VERY FIRST hand :-)
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How's the Chf 500mio IT loss affected bottom line ?

What you trying to sell anyway, you got your 10 posts now, took all of 7 years, well done
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What you trying to sell anyway, you got your 10 posts now, took all of 7 years, well done

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How's the Chf 500mio IT loss affected bottom line ?

What you trying to sell anyway, you got your 10 posts now, took all of 7 years, well done
got some time to kill and knowledge to share and sell. seems like people are even spying you here!
I dont speak or comment where I have no knowledge - like for the same of doing it. :P
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Re: Espresso machine recommendations

Risking a lynching here but... found that cooking coffee in the Turkish/Armenian way was most hassle-free for me, with satisfying results compared to how easy it is.
Might be related to how hard it is to buy a good espresso in Zurich, too
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I dont speak or comment where I have no knowledge
Sorry, that's against the terms & conditions of this forum.
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well, my knowledge is also VERY FIRST hand :-)
So you are basically pushing your employers products and support your arguments with the marketing/advertisement crap we are all used to?

Simple example: The capsule recycling system. It's complete BS so that Nestle can counter the obvious argument that Nespresso generates a whole lot of completely unnecessary waste. And yes, aluminium is a great material to keep coffee fresh and many other brands who use plastic add another wrapper around their capsules. But that's still more ecological than an alu capsule thrown into normal garbage...

Nespresso stands for me as the single stereotype of an entire generation of products where the manufacturers made up problems that never existed and manage to sell the solution to consumers with smart marketing. Nespresso is a great busines school case to see how artificially cheap machines can lock in consumers. But it is not the sort of sustainable consumer product we actually need these days.
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