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Old 29.10.2010, 17:38
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I'm quite amazed that anyone can survive on a fruitarian diet, let alone children.
Apparently, some can.
I don´t think I would be one of them, though..

I love fruit, but eating nothing but seems a bit too much.

Even people who do live like this have to take pills as vitamins and such so clearly it isn´t a way of a full and well balanced diet.

I would much rather drink milk and eat veggies and not have to take chemicals in order to give my body what it needs.
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:40
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:43
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So, basically, you´re saying that humans eat plastics, instrument strings, pet food etc..
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:44
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So, basically, you´re saying that humans eat plastics, instrument strings, pet food etc..
Are you serious

the point is they're being used by the hypocritical likes of you. What does it matter if you ingest the items or not?
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:47
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Are you serious

the point is they're being used by the hypocritical likes of you. What does it matter if you ingest the items or not?
This is a thread about food is it not?
Raising your kids to eat or not to eat meat and animal products?

Yes, I am very serious.
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:48
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This is a thread about food is it not?
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No, it isn't. It's about the philosophical and ethical backdrop to a lifestyle choice.
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:49
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Re: Is raising children as vegetarians/vegans/fruitarians a form of child abuse?

Well, to each his own... But, none of these options are per se right or wrong.

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The implied statement that people raising vegetarians seem to have is:
well he can choose to eat meat when he grows up.

What about raising on an omnivore diet, and then have him choose what Not to eat?
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:51
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No, it isn't. It's about the philosophical and ethical backdrop to a lifestyle choice.
Oh please..You clearly have a problem with anyone who disagrees with you. Try to actually be a part of a discussion not just stating the obvious.
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:53
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Oh please..You clearly have a problem with anyone who disagrees with you. Try to actually be a part of a discussion not just stating the obvious.
I think Chemmie's comment and Economisto come from this statement:

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No animal has to be killed for those, right?
They feed their own babies with milk, I have no problem with milk.
Got milk?
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:54
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Re: Is raising children as vegetarians/vegans/fruitarians a form of child abuse?

Quite surprised by some of the intolerant pushy members on this forum. Just because someone has chosen a different eating lifestyle choice for them and their family compared to you you think you have the right to judge and knock it? I am always amazed at the hostility vegetarians receive from non vegetarians. Does theirs and their child's eating habits really bother you?
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:55
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Quite surprised by some of the intolerant pushy members on this forum. Just because someone has chosen a different eating lifestyle choice for them and their family compared to you you think you have the right to judge and knock it? I am always amazed at the hostility vegetarians receive from non vegetarians. Does theirs and their child's eating habits really bother you?
Who are you addressing Nicky?
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Old 29.10.2010, 17:55
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This is a thread about food is it not?
Is it? I'd really love a "Weeping Tiger" steak now.
http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/528660
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Re: Is raising children as vegetarians/vegans/fruitarians a form of child abuse?

Christ, it is hard enough to prepare a well balanced diet and make sure they eat it, and you want to force them to give up their natural omnivore instincts and prepare vegetarian food (which is much harder)? I don't care if it is right or wrong. It is just not practical!
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Re: Is raising children as vegetarians/vegans/fruitarians a form of child abuse?

From the Vegan Society website:

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Veganism is a way of living that seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing and any other purpose.
That looks like a few get out clauses there.

Personally, I believe everyone is entitled to choose to eat what they wish as long as it is legal. Ideally, all food should be produced to high welfare standards and without additives, pesticides etc.

Realistically, this is never going to happen as the world could not produce enough on that basis to keep up with demand and affordability.
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Who are you addressing Nicky?
the intolerant pushy opinionated members (are you one of them?)
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the intolerant pushy opinionated members (are you one of them?)
sometimes... when I'm bored.
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Re: Is raising children as vegetarians/vegans/fruitarians a form of child abuse?

I'm on the fence on this subject: I have misgivings about adults imposing potentially dangerous or unhealthy beliefs and practices upon children, but also believe that parents have a right to bring up their children as they choose, according to their culture and beliefs - and that, obviously, includes dietary matters.

I read an article a couple of years ago about common misconceptions about diet in early childhood. A very low fat diet isn't really suitable for children, with their developing nervous systems, and a wide variety of proteins are also necessary during these fundamental early years of growth. I can't remember the full details (I'll see if I can look it up), but this might be interesting reading in the meantime, especially the part about soy products.

I was vegetarian myself for a few years in early adulthood, and wouldn't dream of criticising someone for choosing to avoid meat, any more than I would criticise someone for being tee-total or eating kosher products, but, as I said before, I would be concerned that a child on a vegetarian diet was getting all of the nutrients necessary for healthy growth.

On this point, however, I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.
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Quite surprised by some of the intolerant pushy members on this forum. Just because someone has chosen a different eating lifestyle choice for them and their family compared to you you think you have the right to judge and knock it? I am always amazed at the hostility vegetarians receive from non vegetarians. Does theirs and their child's eating habits really bother you?
I was amazed, but not anymore.
I got tired of explaining myself over and over again.. Some people just can´t comprehend, that´s really their problem not mine.

My hubby eats meat (lots) so what am I suppose to do? Divorce him or make him vegetarian?? No, I won´t, cos every living thing has the right to choose, this is simply my choice.
Nor would I deny my child meat, if he/she want´s to eat (healthy meat obviously) who am I to say "no you can´t have that because mommy doesn´t eat meat".
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Christ, it is hard enough to prepare a well balanced diet and make sure they eat it, and you want to force them to give up their natural omnivore instincts and prepare vegetarian food (which is much harder)? I don't care if it is right or wrong. It is just not practical!




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This is a thread about food is it not?
not really.

some people are vegetarian because they don't like the taste of meat. but then they might not deny their children from eating meat since presumably they would acknowledge that their child might have different tastes to them (unless they argue that their children are too young to decide whether they like the taste of meat or not).

so the underlying reason or principle (if there is any) behind the choice of vegetarianism is important in regard to how and why it is also forced onto the child.

for example, you seem to have no problems with animals being killed as a byproduct of the food you consume so long as you don't eat the killed animal itself. and so i can see you would have no problem with your child also eating the killed animal.

others might fundamentally disagree with animals being killed for food and would put the welfare of these animals above the health of their child or the freedom of their child to choose.
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